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Post by ramrod on Apr 15, 2009 14:47:54 GMT
Does anyone have any panel recommendations for the new DC9?
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Post by bobdawkins on Apr 15, 2009 15:03:35 GMT
perhaps you could try Avsim under dc9, 2004 panels,they have a good analog panel or even glass panel as well, I use both types on my DC9's
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Apr 15, 2009 17:49:00 GMT
There are a couple of very good options out there .... and I'm already looking at each of these and negotiating accordingly behind the scenes Personally .... I've no hesitation declaring this one .... by Stellan HILMERBY .... to be my personal favourate, but, that's because I like a panel which reflects the relatively sophisticated task which flying really is .... and this "IS" a complex panel .... make no mistake about that .... even I'm still learning it ! The original file was for FS2002 (so were our DC8's too), but, there are at least 2 upgrades available for this panel to both improve it's appearance, and make it FS9 compatible .... and those upgrades themselves are quite a complex reconfiguration if downloaded as publicly presented at this time. The above panel image shows this panel complete with all the said FS2004 upgrades .... and I do have this file here recompiled as such .... incorporating all of the necessary changes, therefore making installation of it now no more difficult a task than is the current installation of any of own panel or other files generally ! In order to be able to offer this panel here (officially or unofficially) I'll first need to get authorization from Stellan HILMERBY. "IF" such is forthcomming .... then I'll see about posting a download link for it here for everyone to wants to try it to access it. This will then serve as a workable solution .... until something better is forthcomming, or, until such a time as I might be obtain authorization for us to rework and yet further improve the above panel for seemless compatibility with our own new DC9 line. PLEASE NOTE: I make no promises regarding any of this !Incidentally the above panel is actually for DC9-40 aircraft .... and features an SAS type configuration. Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by bobdawkins on Apr 15, 2009 18:16:20 GMT
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Apr 15, 2009 22:06:29 GMT
REALLY .... Bobbo !!!! ;D Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by John Keane - HJG on Apr 16, 2009 13:39:08 GMT
Hahahahaha! That would be cool, a DC-9 Gunship Model. 105mm howitzer and a few miniguns mounted out of the front port fuselage area. Sakes alive! Giving new meaning to "Puff the Magic Dragon", "Puff the Magic DC-9". ;D Knowing how strong and durable the DC-9 fuselage is, I bet it could handle such a job. The US Navy did afterall consider a CARRIER Delivery System {CDS} version of this plane. Tells'ya how tough this plane is. I've seen what Mother Nature can throw at a -51 inflight and thought I was going to "buy the farm" in one back in the summer of 1994 on my trip from Guam back to New Jersey when I completed my USAF service. We encountered a line of severe storms producing F-0 to F-1 strength tornadoes in Northern New Jersey {the Mount Arlington area of Morris County was hit by them near my old house in Netcong} and I've never seen a fuselage twist and BEND like I've seen a DC-9 could and withstand all of it so well. Needless to say, I needed a shower and a "change of clothes" after that experience. ;D BTW..I'm using that INCREDIBLE Steffan Hilmerby DC-9 panel and it's actually not too difficult once you get the hang for it. USE his website as referenced on the Readme.Txt file he included in his panel AND make use of his FORUM for advice with any issues. Many simple and complex problems are already discussed over there and it's a VERY valuable resource. He's also done a DC-9-21 package too and I use that one with my DC-9-10 through 30 series. Main site: www.hilmerby.com/Forum Site: www.hilmerby.com/forumetDC-9 and MD80 cockpit ops: www.hilmerby.com/dcmd.htmlDownloads for his DC-9-21 and -41 airplane model and panel packages HERE: www.hilmerby.com/download.htmlA few pitfall areas with the -41 panel are arming the pneumatic drive for the rudder {on the engine panel - towards the bottom of this panel there are two levers you switch up, that's for the rudder control, make sure those are up) also switching over to the FO panel to turn on the Hydraulics down in the lower center of the screen and then switching back to the main panel can be a bit tricky {switches up next to the autopilot controls on the far right side of the main panel and similarly on the right side of the autopilot controls of the FO panel - BE careful here!} I've got these down well, it's the blasted air pressurization controls that never seem to get the red CABIN PRESSURE light to go off once I'm up at altitude. No amount of fiddling with it seems to get that settled. Other than that, it's a GREAT panel and prefer it over the Flight1 DC-9 panel by FAR! I'm flight testing this GREAT DC-9-51 model Nick did up and it's made my decision to finally begin retiring my JCA models. FABULOUS JOB NICK! AND..I must NOT forget Thanks to crew for these WONDERFUL JT8D soundpacks for the ole 'Niner. These are AWESOME! I'll be using the older version with a pretty nice Caravelle 12 I found over at FlightSim.Com. I'm also itching like a dog with a bad case of fleas for the new AFG Caravelle 6R...can't wait for that one. I hope they'll consider doing the 10 and 12. Regards John
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Post by usafmsgt on Apr 16, 2009 18:55:54 GMT
Agreed, Stellan's panel is a great one, and works very well once learned. But...Alas...I cannot get the flaps to work with the HJG DC-9! No problem with the SGA DC-9 however. Anyone have any ideas?
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Apr 16, 2009 19:03:09 GMT
PRECICISELY JOHN .... it's a "learning curve" .... like everything else that's technical and good. Thanks for making that observation because that's exactly what I think myself too ! It's a complex panel to learn .... initially .... which does take a bit of time and effort, but, if folk are keen they'll put the time into it for the sake of wanting to fly these aircraft with a reasonably good panel. And once folk have learned the panel .... I'm sure they'll never look backwards. My general feeling is that if anyone's currently familiar with past "MAD DOG" product releases (since FS98) and can master those panels competently .... then they shouldn't have any major difficulty adapting themselves to the HILMERBY panel because operation of both seems not too dissimilar. I got my basic panel from Stellan HILMERBY's webite .... then I updated it with the FS2004 upgrades available from FS.COM. Thanks for that other information too John .... because I didn't know there was an earlier version DC9 panel by Stellan. That could be useful in respect of my future ambitions here. If you'd like to refer to recent postings by myself & Esa KAIHLANEN on the CARAVELLE thread which appears on the HJG NEWS & ANNOUNCEMENTS forum page (everything from PP3 on that particular thread) .... you'll find the latest news regarding this project .... and may I assure you, and everyone else too, that it's a "GREAT ONE" indeed I hope this all helps relieve that nasty itch of yours !!!! ;D Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by dutchman2 on Apr 16, 2009 19:21:35 GMT
I have used this panel for awhile now and it is the best for use in the DC-9.
Tried them on almost all of the other offerings out there. My biggest difficulty is to get the EGT to read right and correct operation of the hydraulic pumps (forget which DC-9 that happens on), everything else seems to work.
Hope you get approval to integrate this panel into your DC-9 line. Save me the requal time on the panel................
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Apr 16, 2009 19:50:20 GMT
The DC9 flaps work fine .... from the aliased MSFS B737 panels within FS9 or FSX. "IF" using the HILMERBY DC9 panel though .... then neither the flaps, or the landing gear, can work until 2 of the 4 Hydraulics switches (the center ones) are set to the "HI" postions. You need to command into view a sub panel .... per SHIFT 3 .... in order to access these switches. This (and erroneous EPR, N1, N2, and F/F indications too) is a common consequence that can occur when importing any panel not specifically designed/customized for use with any particular FS aircraft. The only way to get around such issues is to seek authorization to modify/reprogram both the gauges and FDE accordingly .... just like we're doing right now in respect of each the 6 new B727 panels shortly to be unleashed upon everyone. Also .... just one small detail at this stage. I'm content that we can discuss features/operation of the HILMERBY DC9 panel here .... "LIKE WE ARE NOW" .... but .... I'm not keen to create the impression that we're providing support for it .... because as yet we've not been approved rights to do so, and nor have we yet been authorized to host it either. We'll see what happens in the near future though once again .... please feel free to discuss/share details regarding this panel, but, from HJG's current perspective I just don't want to create any wrong impressions in the minds of some folk .... hense my above comments Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by bobdawkins on Apr 18, 2009 14:15:31 GMT
Well chaps, shows how helpful this forum is, as when I was flying the DC9 with said panel, I could for the life of me, workout why the flaps and undercarriage wasn't working, then after a bit of flight testing to see which hydraulic pipes the engineers had mucked, up I suddenly realized it was my co-pilots fault, he hadn't switched on 2 of the 4 Hydraulics switches, so after a sever reprimand from myself, being No1 pilot, ;D and doesn't make these sort of mistakes, ;D I had use of my flaps and gear once again, ;D excess fuel used by this costly mistake is now being paid for by my co-pilot for the next 30 yrs, ;D so it goes to show that if you want any info, come here, or else replace your co-pilot. ;D ;D
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Post by gus on Apr 18, 2009 15:19:27 GMT
Hello, So far I use this one .... Maybe not so sophisticated as below .. but nice for easy flights Regards.
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Post by Tony Madge - HJG on Apr 18, 2009 16:20:22 GMT
Who's panel is that then??
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Post by gus on Apr 18, 2009 16:32:22 GMT
Hello, http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?DLID=&Name=&FileName=&Author=George+Colacicco+&CatID=root Apparently .. the exact one I use is no more available .... but must search more. Can send mine on request.... Here (original not modified by George Colacicco ) www.simviation.com/simviation/static.php?ID=89&page=25Regards.
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Post by skyking on Apr 18, 2009 18:58:28 GMT
That's the one I use too, Gus. Works for me.
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