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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jul 15, 2009 8:44:51 GMT
Some good and very useful information there "JETBLUE3000" .... thanks !!!! Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by garryrussell on Jul 15, 2009 10:25:11 GMT
MAS is not on the list....bought new Garry
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Post by jetblue3000 on Jul 15, 2009 13:49:48 GMT
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Post by BillA on Jul 15, 2009 14:01:03 GMT
Continental, People Express, only 1 for America West had some 100 series
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Post by Herman on Jul 15, 2009 15:39:47 GMT
Thank's gentelmen, it was interesting to look at all the information and photo links on the baby Boeing. What is also interesting is, that probably every airplane ever made has had it's picture taken at some time. There are a huge number of aviation photographers, seemingly everywhere, to our benefit.
Herman
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Post by garryrussell on Jul 15, 2009 16:29:04 GMT
Acutally Herman, there are quite a few aircraft of which no pictures at all exist. There is one DH. ailiner that falls into that category. Others had no pics taken and in addition plans did not survive WW2 and so mentions in publications are all that's left. BEA Viscount G-AOHP is a more recent example of which no pictures have even come to light and two pics of G-AOHU after it's landing mishap are all that have ever surface of that machine. There are about a dozen BAC One-Elevens that no photo's can be found of including that last Aviateca....remember that Mark? In the early sixties an Aer Lingus Viscount landed. We didn't get them here so up I went to the airport and caught it just starting up right in front of me. Full Aer lLngus green top livery with Channel Airways titles. I have never found a pic and no fleet lists or production list indicate which aircraft it could have been.....nothing fits that time line and nothing has ever been listed as used by Channel, but I saw it but did not note the registration at that time. As to WW2 there are thousand of aircraft built and never photograhed. Garry
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jul 15, 2009 18:46:41 GMT
YEAH .... I remember that bugger .... or should I say"THOSE BUGGERS" .... because we turned up several of the buggers as I recall !!!!
Incidentally .... Camilo recently turned up some very good references (including both the name and the nose logo too) for that rare red and white liveried LAU COLOMBIA VISCOUNT .... along with some other Colombian VISCOUNTS as well.
I'll send you his links "IF" know you're interested !
Mark
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Post by garryrussell on Jul 15, 2009 19:27:30 GMT
Hi Mark......Th Uracca yes.but the other have to be 800's so that rules out TAO for example.
On the subjects of Viscounts.did you not see the one in the park near la Vanguardia. Ex Aeropesca HK-1408 I think it is...all grey.
It was withdrawn after entering heavy turbulence inbound to that airport. When it had the mandatory check after it's bumpy trip, the wingspar was found to be almost broken through with a crack that was intially fairly old. It was believed to have happened in a heavy landing it had a couple of years before. It was cleared then but seem damage was done and however or whenver it was caused it was lucky and that was the end of it's career.
Garry
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jul 15, 2009 20:47:31 GMT
YES .... it's the LINEAS AEREAS de URRACA VISCOUNT 800 .... complete with the aircraft name, and a reasonably good impression of that strange comical logo (which confused us)adorning its forward fuselage .... that I was referring to ! I believe we saw the park you refer to .... but .... saw no evidence of the VISCOUNT during our recent visit. It may not exist there now. Even the VISCOUNT stored for many years at Bogota's Aeropuerto El Dorado Internacional seems to have disappeared too .... along with many of the aircraft which were once accumulated within a region of the airport that I always referred to as "COROSION CORNER/JURASSIC PARK". There has been a huge clean up there recently ! I'll try'n get the LAU references to you per PM later on ! There may also be an INTERCONTINENTAL VISCOUNT among these same references too, but, I can't remember if it's an 800, or, a 700. Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by garryrussell on Jul 15, 2009 21:30:47 GMT
Hi Mark I know the Intercontinental livery and it was 700 and 800 The problem with that is the wings..they are likely to have the name as well as the reg but that is a detail I've not sourced. Side views only is what I've seen.....royal bue and gold. Central and South Americans were never afraid to use colour and design even in the days when most of the World was still very restrained. Sad about the Viscount but I'm not surprised. This happens in the UK...relics sit for years and then in a short time they all seem to vanish. The Trident 1C is almost extinct now with I think the Manchester and Teeside burnt wreck all that remain. One whole T2 and two whole T3 remain although G-AWZK is not really complete as it's wings were clipped by BA to make more space. A few years ago the UK was full of Tridents of all marks and there was hardly a firedump of any major airport without one. Cranfield, Perth, Dunsfold, Hatfield also had them as did the police and SAS for training.....suddenly they all seem to be gone Garry
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jul 16, 2009 9:56:27 GMT
It'll probably be a couple of days before I can dig up the link/s .... on one of the CD's that came back with me recently. Regarding wing titles .... one would be hard-pressed now to fin overwing views of either the LAU or INTERCONTINENTAL aircraft now, but, I can tell you that Colombia is, probably, one of the few remaining countries in the world that still seems to employ both over and underwing titles (airline name, and registration) on all its civil aircraft .... a detail I noted on the aircraft of several different operators recently at Villavicencio. In most cases these titles seem to assume standard block rather that corporate font style .... and so far as I'm aware this was also the case in respect of these LAU and INTERCONTINENTAL aircraft during their era too. I've also just received more news from Benoit PLAMONDON .... regarding "our other little project" too .... and which I'll brief you regarding a little later on .... if I may. Just a bit busy right now ! Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by garryrussell on Jul 16, 2009 10:14:36 GMT
Ok Mark
I'm in no hurry for the Viscount stuff.
Garry
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Post by Herman on Jul 16, 2009 17:42:16 GMT
Thank you Garry and Mark for that information. Many years ago when I was into airliner post card collecting there was a company in Medellin, Columbia ,by the name of "Movifoto" who issued a huge number of airliner post cards including cards of all Central American and South American operators. Included were many Viscounts, Electras and others. They were all good quality cards with excellent photography, both ground and air to air. One of the things that really impressed me, is their air to air shots which were taken during the landing or take off phases, ( an example shown below ). I often wondered how much negotiation it took to obtain permission from the authorities to do that. Unfortunately I gave the majority of my collection away. Sometimes I wish I had'nd. Herman
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Post by garryrussell on Jul 16, 2009 17:48:28 GMT
Funny how Braniff used a back to front flag on the starboard.
Garry
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jul 16, 2009 18:56:55 GMT
"MOVIFOTO - BANCO DE FOTOGRAFIA" .... located in Medellin, Republica de Colombia .... during the 1970's and 80's Camilo & myself know/knew them well ! Just about every image they ever released was a real "PEARLER" of a shot. I too collected a lot of their airliner postcards and which I still have too this day Camilo & myself have tried to locate them .... or whoever was behind MOVIFOTO, but, it appears they're no longer in existence now .... so far as we can determine Mark C AKL/NZ
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