VHHX Checkerboard Approach B707-120

[louross]

Crossing Stone Cutter Island


A Scenic Approach


Looking for it


Chekerboard's in sight


Chekerboard and Runway


Final turn

[Herman]

Nice images louross from one of the most challenging approaches.

How did you make out with your actual landing?

Herman

[louross]

This was my 3rd try in 4 days. The first 2 approaches were very difficult, and the first landing was bad- crossed the runway and tried to get it down, but, high-speed wreckage. 2nd attempt landed off to the side, still no good. This one was right on. Just like in the movies. Think I'll do some flying out of VHHX for awhile. Unbelivable approach this is.

Forgot to post it:

[Herman]

Yep, looks like a good one.

Now you have me interested to try some approaches into VHHX. Just need to find the approach charts in my files.

Herman

[louross]

Great! I think the scenery came from calclassics. Post some shots!
lr.

[louross]

Oh, by the way, Captains. EXAM TIME!

There are 2 errors in the above approach.
What are the 2 errors?

lr.

[Herman]

Here are a few SS's of my first practice approach to RW 13 at VHHX. It was'nt very pretty, I was a bit high and fast and therefore drifted down the runway too far and TD was quite a bit off the center line. Should have been a go-around.

I think I need to do quite a few more in order to pass my check rides ;D ;D ;D

I happen to be flying the Russian TU 114 at the time ( sorry HJG folks) It's not quite a jetliner, but pretty close....it has swept wings and jet driven props. ;D ;D ;D











Herman

[Herman]

louross....I can't seem to spot the two errors. The only thing I can see is that your landing lights were not turned on....the Master warning light is on for some reason and there is no GS indication for the IGS approach to RW 13.

Herman

[louross]

Herman gets one (1) Bingo. No landing lights.
The nav was tuned to a VOR at CC; I wasn't using the ILS.

So, error no.2 is _________.

Nice shots- especially of the checkerboard with the lead-in lights! A bit off center you say, I'd say you did just fine, especially considering the approach!
lr.

[louross]

Error No. 2:
Actually my mistake for the invalid question. Sorry.

The error was the the panel is not set up for a missed approach, should it be necessary. The only way you'd probably know that is to know the missed approach procedure. The initial heading for the missed approach (275*) and the NDB freq (KT 338) are not set.
lr.

[Herman]

Yes louross you are quite right, in the real world the missed approach heading and navaids should be set up.

Actually the calclassic scenery for VHHX does have copies of the 1960's charts included.

Herman

[George Carty - HJG]

I noticed the Master Warning light on - did you forget to turn off the yaw damper?

[louross]

Thanks for the heads up, George.

Is the yaw damper supposed to be OFF? I must have missed that point in the write-up (manual) or the checklist, if it's there. As I remember, it was on until gate departure to after landing in the 727.
However, the panel photos of the thread, the first 2 it's on, then it's off, then back on again. But I see no apparent difference. There is an increase in flaps, the auto pilot goes off, and a descent.

It is common on an approach that I get the warning, but I can't identify the reason according to the manual by HJG. Same with the flashing warning next to the no. 4 epr gauge. Any ideas?
lr.

[George Carty - HJG]

The Master Warning light comes on if any one of the following conditions are met:

1. Stall
2. Overspeed
3. Gear down and landing flaps selected with yaw damper on

(So yes, the yaw damper is supposed to be OFF for final approach).

The flashing warning next to the #4 EPR gauge is the Configuration Warning, which comes on if one or more of the following conditions is met (each is a hazardous or illogical configuration):

1. Throttle advanced more than 20% with spoilers deployed
2. Take-off or climb power set with 40 degrees or more of flaps set
3. Gear retraction speed limit (270 KIAS) exceeded
4. Flap retraction speed limit exceeded (230 KIAS for first notch, lower for higher flap settings)
5. Descending at less than 160 KIAS with less than 40 degrees of flaps
6. Throttles advanced to high power on the ground, but flaps fully retracted or at 40 degrees or more
7. Gear retracted at less than 135 KIAS

George

[louross]

I thank you for your last post there, George.
I did go over the manual again and could find no reference to the point about the yaw damper being OFF with gear DOWN and landing flaps SET. My last download was around the second week of April.
lr.