My convair 880 doesn't smoke ???

[cgw44]

No smoke from my 880.

I've downloaded the latest files and still nothing.

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

The only reasons why your smoke effects might not work will only be because of 1 of following 3 reasons ....

1. If you haven't got the SMOKE EFFECTS files installed in the right place .... FS folder .... or at all !

2. IF you're not using the HJG supplied CONVAIR 880 panels.

3. IF you've modified the SMOKE EFFECTS data in your AIRCRAFT.CFG filre.

You "must" install only the HJG CONVAIR SMOKE EFFECTS inside the FS "EFFECTS" folder only.

As stated in # 2 (above) .... you must also be using the HJG CONVAIR 880 panels .... because the smoke effects for these aircraft is dependent on EGT gauge readings in these panels in order to work .... and .... which is also dependent on throttle axis position too .... meaning that these aircraft, like our B707/720, B727, CARAVELLE, and DC9 aircraft too, will only show engine exhaust smoke "automatically" (the old manual keyboard "I" commands to activate smoke effects have long since been superseded) when the engines are running at high RPM.



The CONVAIR 880 smoke effects are a separate file download .... available from the "EFFECTS - ALL MODELS" section of our Downloads page.

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[cgw44]

Thanks for the response.

I know to put the smoke files into the effects folder which
is why I thought it was odd that it didn't work for either the 880 or 990 and yes I have the proper hjg panels installed for the 880 and 990 as there is no other panel I would even think of using.

I have the 707-dc8-caravelle installed and the smoke effects
work fine.

But now I have question: you say that the effects are dependent
on power settings - hi power = smoke - but these jets had smoke
coming out at much lower power settings - is there a way to adjust this to have the smoke coming out at lower power settings?

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

is there a way to adjust this to have the smoke coming out at lower power settings?

"NO" .... there is not .... at least not without some major gauge V CFG rewriting.

We feel that what's provided (in terms of how it all works) is "quite adequate"

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[xeon256]

I am having a smoke issue too. The smoke effect works when I have the brakes on and ramp the engines up. The smoke forms in balls behind the engines. However seems like thats the only point they work, and smoke doesnt show up in the replay at all. Even when in live run the smoke showed in those balls behind the engines. So Im thinking the game (FSX) isnt reading the effects files right.

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

The smoke effect works when I have the brakes on and ramp the engines up. The smoke forms in balls behind the engines

OK .... so .... you've obviouisly got it installed correctly (I assume) .... meaning .... only "IF" you've dowloaded the "880/880" and "990" Somoke Effects files from the EFFECTS/ALL MODELS page of the HJG DOWNLOADS section.

"IF" .... you've not done that (and are possibly relying upon default MSFS smoke effects) then these smoke effects will either not work at all or not be sustainened.

You need to check this .... and adjust things accordingly .... "if necessary".

The required Smoke Effect files must be installed inside the "EFFECTS" folder of FS.

"PROVIDED THE HJG SUPPLIED CV880/CV990 PANELS ARE BEING USED (and this's an important point for reasons I'll explain in a moment) .... then .... these smoke effects will be auto-generated once engine power indicates above a certain RPM value .... above 90% from memory .... and which, for the CV880's at least, will be an almost constant value in order to maintain high altitude/high speed MACH cruise (around MACH 0.86 - 0.87). Below this particular RPM value the smoke effects, for these particular aircraft, are not generatated .... intentionally).

Another detail to (possibly) bear-in-mind too is that the CV880/CV990 smoke effects, at high or lower airspeeds, and unlike tis the case with our B707's and DC8's, does tennd to form further behind these simulations. I, personally, feel the CONVAIR smoke effects formate too far behind these models .... as may be evident when comparing these smoke effects images with those of some of our other classic jet-lines ....


CV880-22


CV990-A


DC8-11


DC8 SUPER 61


B707-120



The auto-smoke effects provided for the HJG B707/720/C135 SERIES, CV880, CV990, DC8, DC9 .... including those for the the AFG CARAVELLE and the FSFT CONCORDE too .... function/are all triggered "automatically (meaning it's not necessary to apply the MSFS keyboard command "I") per indications with the EGT gauges within the panels of these particular simulations.

The HJG DC8 SUPER 70, DC10, and L1011 TRISTAR simulations .... iincluding the ARNZ Bae 146/RJ-100 .... are smokeless as these aircraft are "virtually" smokeless within the real world .... meaning smoke effects are not provided nor are unnecessary.

For the HJG MD80/90 and B717-200 .... mmoke effects are provided, but, must be manually toggled "ON/OFF" per the MSFS keyboard command "I" .... since the panels used to support these particular simulations "are imported, and not HJG productions, and have therfore not been re-engineered to generate auto-smoke effects .... or to display a few other features we'd normally like to be able to offer in the interest of complete uniformity among our panel range.

Mark C
AKL/NZ