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Post by theophile on Apr 8, 2013 13:16:48 GMT
Hi guys,
I know I've seen this before but my WX radar in the DC8 panel
reads:"caution:unserviceable".I run FSX and have the latest
FSUIPC version active.What can I do about this?
( a search of the forums under weather or WX did not turn up
any results).Grateful for any advice.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Apr 8, 2013 21:08:04 GMT
I've only ever heard of this situation twice before .... over 7 years .... one of which I resolved (as outlned below) .... but .... the other customer never got back to us on the basis of the advice provided, and which is, often, the case  ANYWAY .... The only situation, I know of, that will, and intentionally (because this is supposed to happen), result in a "CAUTION WEATHER RADAR UNSERVICEABLE" placard/tape appearing across Weather radar unit, is if one does not have FSUIPC installed (any version from V3.50 or later .... "I think" the current FS2004 version is V3.99, but, in your particular case, I don't know what the latest version is for FSX, but, you do need to ensure that you have an FSX specific FSUIPC version installed) .... AND/OR .... have FSUIPC installed in a folder other than that necessary for it to be able to interact with these panels. You say, you have, FSUIPC installed .... but .... what version are you using ? Is the FSUIPC version you have installed FSX specific ? If you have FSUIPC installed .... then where/how have you installed it .... the DLL file in particular ? If you have inherited FSUIPC from another (payware) FS add-on program (like ACTIVE SKY for instance) .... then from my FS2004 experience at least .... some of these programs do install FSUIPC outside of the main FS directory/away from the Modules folder andwhich may affect things. The FSUIPC.DLL must/should be installed inside the FS MODULES folder in order for the B707, B727, CV880, CV990, DC8, DC9, and L1011 panel Weather Radar units to be able function "as intended" .... each panel using the very same unit. The Weather Radar cannot/will not work without FSUIPC .... and it "does not" need to be a licensed version either .... since having FSUIPC installed in "fully unlicensed" form, with its "MINIMUM WEATHER" options selected. is all that is actually required in order for it to be able to interact with any of these panels. "IF" these conditions are not first met .... then this could be the reason why you are seeing what, you say, you are seeing .... although, again, I'm not certain regarding FSUIPC implications in regard to FSX, but, there should be no difference .... "so far as I am aware". I have kept my own FSUIPC up-to-date since V3.50 .... and do have, what I believe to be the most current FS2004 version installed (V3.99 I think) .... and in fully unlicensed form .... and installed inside the FS MODULES folder too .... and I, personally, have not ever experienced any such issues at all. Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by theophile on Apr 8, 2013 23:54:39 GMT
My FSUIPC version is 3.86 and it is in the modules folder of my flightsim.To be complete,I must add that I am running Prepare3D
but all my FSX programs are "transcripted" to Prepare3D through
a FSX to Prepare3D migration program.Up to now,all my former
FSX programs seem to be fooled into thinking they are running
in FSX instead of Prepare3D.I have had no problems whatsoever
with any FSX programs before.I also want to add that I have an
official FSUIPC licence and that ,except for the WX radar,the
DC8 runs perfectly (including for example the INS program).I already
reinstalled FSUIPC but to no avail.Thanks for looking into this.
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Post by theophile on Apr 8, 2013 23:57:18 GMT
Small correction,the version is obviously 4.86 not 3.86
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Apr 9, 2013 5:14:03 GMT
OK .... the facts are ....
For the WX Radar to be able work, in each of the said HJG hosted panels and in both FS2004 and FSX, and without appearing taped as being "UNSERVICEABLE", it does require an FS version specific copy of FSUIPC to be installed .... "in either licensed or unlicensed form" .... as mentioned.
That FSUIPC module (the FSUIPC.DLL file) must be installed inside the FS "MODULES" folder .... which I understand you to have done.
Therefore .... the WX Radar in these panels "should be working" for you on the basis of what, you say, you've done .... unless this other program/utility you're running is maybe, potentially (I don't say that it definitely is), interfering with the intended panel WX Radar/FSUIPC interaction.
I regret to say .... I don't have FSX in order to be able to conduct more stringent testing for you, but, I'm not aware of any problems associated with straightforward installations of any of the WX Radar equipped HJG hosted panels along the lines of what's been directed, but, I imagine, if you're experiencing this particular issue with the DC8 panels .... then the same might also apply to the B707, B727, CV880, CV990, DC8, DC9, and L1011 panel Weather Radar units too.
Mark C
AKL/NZ
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Post by theophile on Apr 9, 2013 13:27:37 GMT
Ok,thanks a lot for the courtesy of answering me.I understand
that it might be something on territory far beyond what your
wonderful creations were designed for ( I mean P3D).I will certainly
keep on using the DC8 and am really looking forward toward the
new DC8 developments hinted.
One last thought:might it have something to do with the fact that
FS9 and FSX have their own real weather links incorporated in
the sim,while P3D does not?I use REX for weather,but that is an outside program.
Again thanks for applying your considerable FS knowledge to my
problem.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Apr 9, 2013 19:40:42 GMT
Sorry I couldn't resolve it for you .... BUT .... continue to monitor this/your thread over comming days anyway .... because, you never know, someone else may end up offering some degree of valid/helpful oppinion.
Mark C
AKL/NZ
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Post by theophile on Apr 10, 2013 19:21:38 GMT
Thank you,Mark.
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Post by a320driver on Nov 6, 2013 2:38:28 GMT
I too have the issue of the weather radar not working on any of the HJG aircraft I have installed. Have made all the checks outlined above and all is in order and as it should be regarding the location of the FSUIPC.DLL (which is version 3.9.9.9). Having read thru what I could find regarding this problem, I'm at a complete loss as to why it will not work. Hoping someone might have some new insight into what the culprit could be.
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Post by jimhalinda on Nov 8, 2013 0:16:29 GMT
If you have any other addons that use FSUIPC, there could be a conflict that prevents the radar from working.
I had the same problem, and for me the cause was a freeware addon called autower, which automatically changes the tower view to the nearest airport as you fly. This is in FS2004 with a fully registered version of FSUIPC.
For some reason I removed autower one day, and all of a sudden the weather radar started working! Reinstalled autower and it stopped again.
So obviously not all applications that use FSUIPC play well together.
You may want to try removing other things that use FSUIPC one at a time, to find the conflict. But I wouldn't know how to fix it, of course.
Regards,
Jim
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 8, 2013 2:04:24 GMT
I´d be inclined toward possibly following Jim´s advice .... simply because this sort of issue is "so rare" (in fact Jim and "THEOPHILE" are the only known instances of this particular issue "that I can immediately recall") that I, personally, don´t have any other form of constructive advice to offer.
All I can tell you is ....
The WX Radar unit (fitted in each HJG B707/720, B727, CV880, CV990, DC8, DC9, and L1011 panel) "DOES" require FSUIPC, in either "unlicenced" or "fully licenced" form (any version later than V3.50 .... I think it is) in order to be able to function.
It "WILL NOT/CANNOT" work without it .... and is the FSUIPC related dependence for each of the above-mentioned HJG supplied panels.
"IF" the FSUIPC module is not installed, inside the FS2004 "MODULES" folder, then the WX Radar unit will appear placarded with a simulated tape bearing the titles "UNSERVICEABLE".
I presume that when you installed your FSUIPC module (and I´m assuming you´ve installed it in "unliecenced" form) that you also selected "MINIMUM WEATHER DEFAULTS" .... then shutdown and restarted FS afterward .... in order for this this option, and the FSUIPC module itself, to be properly recognized by FS.
Mark C
BOG/CO
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Post by walterleo on Nov 8, 2013 11:48:41 GMT
Hi:
Dont throw stones after me, but there is an alternative to the HJG WXR and it is freeware and works without qualms even on the FS default weather engine. If you have installed a PT-Tu-154 you can use the GROZA weatherradar in every airplane you want. It has a superior funcionality (groundmapping, weather, attentuation suppression for indicating dangerous weather, drift calculation). The only drawback: Its inscriptions are cyrilic, even if in reality it was the Swedish ERICSON radar.
Kind regards
Walter
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Post by a320driver on Nov 8, 2013 14:04:04 GMT
My FSUIPC is the paid version. The only thing I have not checked is the "MINIMUM WEATHER DEFAULTS" setting. Will check that and try things out and report back.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 8, 2013 14:28:57 GMT
"IF" you have any "FULLY LICENSED" version of FSUIPC (later than V3.50) then you "DO NOT" need to activate the "MINIMUM WEATHER DEFAULTS" option .... simply because you would then (using a licensed version) be able to access all of the individual weather and technical related options provided within this module and which can then be manually manipulated to your preference
My reference to the "MINIMUM WEATHER DEFAULTS" option is for those using FSUIPC in "unlicensed" form only .... remembering that this WX Radar can only works on the basis of an FSUIPC installation in either "unlicensed" or "fully licensed" form.
Again .... I´m inclined to steer you in the direction of Jim´s advice .... since you may, possibly, have another module (from another unrelated FS intallation) that could, possibly, be interfering with the FSUIPC ability to function the HJG supplied WX Radar.
Another thing too ....
Although FSUIPC is commonly installed inside the FS "MODULES" folder .... I´m aware of at least 1 WX relatd add-on program for FS ("ACTIVE SKY") that does come with a supposedly fully licensed version of FSUIPC (by default), but which, installs this particular module in its own separate program related file outside of FS .... suggesting then an this "IS" a very long shot in the dark .... that "IF" you did happen to have (even inadvertantly) 2 versions of FSUIPC installed (like this), inside 2 separate folders, then this would effectively confuse FS into not being able to display the WX Radar. I "HAVE" seen 1 particular case (only) of the above .... and which I resolved for someone else on the basis of a personal/private house call/visit a few years ago in order to investigate a similar problem to that which you´re apparently experiencing .... SO THEN .... do check out this rare possibility also.
Mark C
BOG/CO
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Post by a320driver on Nov 9, 2013 3:22:07 GMT
Well I have spent a fair bit of time trying to track this down, all to no avail. I did find a FSUIPC.dll located in the ASv6 folder, however I removed it but that made no difference with the weather radar. Guess I will just have to live without the WX radar in these planes, as I have no idea why it will not function. As stated above, FSUIPC (paid version) correctly installed in the FS9/modules folder, no other instances of the FSUIPC dll found (after the above correction). Could take a very long time to find the cause "by accident" but it looks like that's going to be what it will take to fix it.
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