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Post by Mike Monce - HJG on Aug 8, 2014 12:26:33 GMT
Wow... the last time I saw an airliner being flown this way was way back when I was a teenager (don't ask!) when at an airshow at KBJC, United did similar things with a 727. Impressive stuff: www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZRKm6PG918
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Post by Tony Madge - HJG on Aug 8, 2014 13:17:08 GMT
impressive
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Aug 8, 2014 20:18:24 GMT
Mike and I always have "FUN" flying airilners .... BUT .... the type of fun we end up having is of the type that makes/causes us wanto to "SCRATHCH OUR HEADS" in puzzlement .... aye Mike But .... we usually always manage to get it figured out .... so everyone else can have "better fun" than the type of fun we have figuring it all out WHILST ON THE SUBJECT OF AIRLINERS .... AIRSHOWS .... and IMPRESSIVE DISPLAYS .... The RNZAF acquired 3 B727-100's airframes from UNITED AIRLINES during the early/mid 1980's (attracted to them by their higher MGW capabilities due to their B727-200 type wing .... and which we also had converted to QC configuration for military, VIP, and other general air transport applications). We flew only 2 of these aircraft .... since the other was used for spares recovery. ANYWAY .... the RNZAF used to put on a "PARTICULARLY IMPRESSSIVE" display with these aircraft at its airshows .... and which ranged from low altitude low speed to low altitude very high speed runs across the spectatored field .... followed by extreme bank angles and "very steep" climbouts too. A special display was performed during the a major RNZAF celebration (can't remember if it was their 50th anniversdary or another) .... at which the BOEING representative for New Zealand was also in attendance/an invited VIP guest. I'll never forget the closing words of his speech during the celebratory dinner that evening. He said .... "TODAY I SAW SOME THINGS DONE WITH A B727 .... WHICH I'VE NEVER EVER SEEN DONE BEFORE" .... and which resulted in an eruption of loud laughter and applause among the hundreds of guests assembled within the hangar. Even he/the Boeing Representative was "IMPRESSED" by the display performed by the RNZAF B727 That particular display was actually recorded on film/video. If I can find it (which I probably can't) .... then I'll try'n present it (here) later. Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by icycle on Aug 8, 2014 22:26:01 GMT
Had seen this video earlier, glad you shared.
It is always interesting when you see an airplane (actually, airliner), designed/powered to carry a lot of weight, fly without that weight. They are surprisingly "agile". I Remember a number of years ago, being in Oshkosh for the EAA fly-in, and having Northwest fly a demo of their (then) newly delivered B747-200 - still in the "metal" Northwest livery. A 747 with just a flight crew, no pax, no cabin crew, and little fuel puts on one heck of a show. 200K+ lbs of engine power is quite impressive.....
Bill
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Post by Mike Monce - HJG on Aug 9, 2014 13:22:03 GMT
"Mike and I always have "FUN" flying airliners .... BUT .... the type of fun we end up having is of the type that makes/causes us wanto to "SCRATHCH OUR HEADS" in puzzlement .... aye Mike " ROTFLMAO If only they knew, Mark! BTW, inspired by the above video I took our latest "head scratcher" out and was able to almost replicate that video....we may be closer than we thought Mike
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Post by Herman on Aug 9, 2014 14:35:30 GMT
Very impressive, especially that extremely steep attitude climbout. Almost unbelievable.
Herman
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Post by walterleo on Aug 9, 2014 16:06:34 GMT
Hi: Dont forget Boening Test pilots Tex Johnstons barrel role with the first 707! www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KNbKFMBsQEor Clay Lacys airshow with the Lear 24: www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRmX3pixfj4Clay Lacy is not only an ex UNITED (?) B 747 pilot he also flew for Hollywood movie directors to film inflight scenes like in "TOP GUN": The entire stunt is here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNX59Wv3MOEOther airliners from Tu-104 upwards were pressed into astronauts training for ZERO G flights: manuevers very impressive also. The Russian Kosmonauts afectionally called their Tu-104 "the pucking tube". However felt miserably in an airplane can take consolation from that. Enjoy! Walter P.S.: This stunts demand a very careful planing and execution, without they easily can go out of hand like the A-320 crash at Mulhouse: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_296
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Post by icycle on Aug 9, 2014 17:30:41 GMT
Yes, also good video's - the Tex Johnson interview from "Reaching for the Skies" series (BBC 1988) - which is still one of the best Aviation documentaries around - 26 years on.... Interesting side note. The word "stunt". Was listening in to an intrerview (for print, I believe) with Clat Lacy, a number of years ago @ Oshkosh, where the interviewer used the word "stunt" in a question. Mr Lacy took exception to the term, and pointedly corrected the interviewer. He stated something to the effect of that test/demonstration pilots did not perform "stunts" which connote recklessness. Those are definately, as you state, carefully planned, and do not exceed or endanger the aircraft (or the occupants!) if exceuted properly. They stand out so much as a disconnect for us because we are all so used to seeing these aircraft operated rather benignly on a daily basis. Bill
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Post by walterleo on Aug 10, 2014 9:00:09 GMT
I used "stunt" in the sense the Encyclopedia Brittanica uses it:
That Clay Lacy doenst like giving the impression of reckless flying some stunt pilots exercise I understand, but in a generic sense he was "stunt flying".
Walter
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 15:59:55 GMT
The various Manchester airlines such as Air 2000 and Flying Colours used to have a good relationship with airshows locally and I have seen many good B757 displays at Hoylake (Flying Colours or Air 2000 [memory check] performing a very fast and quiet fly-by with 45 degree climb out - with a passenger load), Barton (Air 2000 letting an ex-Red Arrows pilot do a full load fly-by after he delayed the take off of said Red Arrows at Manchester) & Woodford (Air 2000 releasing an empty B757 to do a full display all pretty much inside the airfield boundary in one of the loveliest displays I have seen). Woodford often used to play host to airliner fly-bys during slack periods and I have a vague recollection of VC-10s too but way, way back.
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Post by walterleo on Aug 10, 2014 22:13:58 GMT
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