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Post by Tony Madge - HJG on Aug 28, 2014 9:02:59 GMT
A future model coming in this classic livery, due for release when completed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 13:52:11 GMT
Niiiiccceeeeee I did not know that Pan Am had winglets for 727s.
Regards,
Aharon
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Post by christrott on Aug 29, 2014 0:20:07 GMT
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Post by Dee Waldron - HJG on Aug 29, 2014 0:20:34 GMT
Q-System winglets were installed on all of the reborn PanAm 727s. I think they also had the #1 and #3 engine upgrade to the -2000 series.
Dee
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Post by christrott on Aug 29, 2014 0:39:53 GMT
Looking online, I can confirm that N364PA was a full Super '27 (727-200RE) conversion, but I'm not sure on the rest. I've found pics of N362PA, N365PA, and N365PA with the #2 reverser removed and winglets added, but they still appears to have the original #1 and #3 engines installed. N361PA, N367PA, and N369PA don't appear to have either winglets or the RE mod and the most recent pic I found showed the "flower pedal" exhaust Stage III mod installed on both. N342PA and N343PA have the pipe extensions only.
I think that's the whole Guilford/Pan Am fleet.
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Post by Tony Madge - HJG on Aug 29, 2014 3:45:11 GMT
This is N364PA and in its 200 advanced guise, did not know that it later was a Super 27 conversion.
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Post by christrott on Aug 30, 2014 21:41:36 GMT
Tony, I think you're right. It appears there's been a mislabelling of the history of N364PA. There were actually 2 different airframes to carry N364PA, one with the first PanAm and one with the third. However, both airfames served with PanAm (3rd). The original N364PA/msn 22536 was converted to a Valsan "Super '27" (727-200VA, later RE) in 1992 and then made it into the fleet of Express One and then Carnival Airlines as N727VA. It then became the sole "Super '27" in the PanAm fleet under the registration N727VA. The second N364PA/msn 21107 was original delivered to Air Jamaica and flew with them until 1998 when Pan Am (3nd) picked it up and put the winglets on it and reregistered it and its sister ships in the "360" series that PanAm's original 727-200's were registered in.
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Post by Tony Madge - HJG on Aug 31, 2014 7:50:43 GMT
Thanks for the info Chris, in the UK only one aircraft can carry the reg number so it stays with that plane! makes things easier
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Post by M.I.B. on Sept 3, 2014 13:22:08 GMT
I so love this bird!
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Post by darrenvox on Sept 4, 2014 17:11:49 GMT
cant wait@@
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2014 20:14:22 GMT
For interest, I found two aircraft in my library:
5N-FGN of the Nigerian Government but I cannot find a cn to trace any further details. C-GKFH Purolator and Kelowna cn 20153 and seems to still be active but no reference to her previous history so far.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Sept 4, 2014 22:19:14 GMT
5N-FGN .... is recorded as having been a built as a B727-2N6 ADV .... C/N 22825 .... L/N 1805 (among the last, but not the last, B727's ever built by BOEING.
It first flew on June 4th 1982 .... and was delivered to the NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT on July 14th 1982 .... as 5N-AGY. In service with the NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT it was then re-registered "5N-FGN" during November 1988. It was then sold to PL LOGISTICS CORP PTY LTD (ZS-PVX) during May 2007 .... and is where I presume it to remain.
NO FURTHER INFORMATION .... that's as far as I can track this one until 2008.
C-GFKH .... is recorded as having been built as a B727-225 (an early production aircraft and not an ADV) .... C/N 20153 .... L/N 779.
It first flew on December 2nd 1969 .... and was delivered to EASTERN AIR LINES on December 2nd 1969 as N8834E/#834. It was sold to ONA LEASING INC on May 8th 1981 then leased back to EASTERN AIR LINES (N8834E/#834) on the same day. It was then bought back by EASTERN AIR LINES (N8834E/#834) during December 1984 .... then withdrwn from service (probably around the time of the EAL collapse) and stored at McCarran International Airport, Las Vegas, Nevada. It was then sold to INTERNATIONAL AIR LEASES INC on April 2nd 1992 (N8834E/#834) .... then transfered to IAF AIRCRAFT HOLDING INC during December 1992. It was then leased to ALLEGRO AIRLINES (XA-SJP) on July 9th 1993 .... and was returned to IAF AIRCRAFT HOLDING INC (N8834E) on February 2nd 1994. It was then converted to a freighter during Fwebruary 1994 .... then leased to ARROW AIR (N8834E) .... and was returned to IAF AIRCRAFT HOLDING INC on March 18th 1995. It was then leased to KELONA FLIGHT CHARTER (C-GKFH/#711) from April 30th 1996.
NO FURTHER INFORMATION .... that's as far as I can track this one until 2008 also.
Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2014 8:06:28 GMT
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Post by anels9 on Sept 14, 2014 11:00:34 GMT
Cannot wait for the new 727 models will the winglets be applied to the RE super 27 model and 727-100 series aircraft?
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Sept 14, 2014 20:09:53 GMT
"YES" .... B727-200 ADV LEAPS B727-200F ADV LEAPS B727-200 ADV WL B727-200F ADV WL B727-200 ADV QW WL B727-200 ADV RE SUPER 27 LEAPS B727-200 ADV RE SUPER 27 LEAPS WL .... are among the "NEW" B727-200 model contenders ("THANKS" be to Paul HAAK) .... along with some significant revisios for most of the other B727-200 sERIES models too. Some necessary FDE editing .... as well as incorporation of a presentation within which to present these revisions are the only hold ups. All "WILL" be revealed .... in due course .... of course In the meantime .... herwe's a couple images of 2 (only) of the new WL equipped B727-200 models .... in both standard/PAX and freighter form/configurations .... Mark C AKL/NZ
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