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Post by emann on Nov 23, 2014 9:58:56 GMT
Hi,
just downloaded the tristar package and I believe I have installed correctly however on the runway threshold cannot see anything outside as per attached.
I have a widescreen monitor and also renamed the panel_fsx to panel.cfg in the fsfsconv file.
I use registered fsuipc and controls in sim are disabled to control all through fsuipc...I assigned shift+enter to change views but nothing happens.
Any ideas pls...firstly how can I make sure that my installation is correct using the required panel.cfg file for widescreen (if this makes a difference) and also no clue as to why eyepoint is not changing.
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Regards, emann
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 23, 2014 10:39:22 GMT
Your installation appears to be correct by virtue of the fact that everything (gauge instrumention etc) are displaying .... BUT .... whre I suspect you´ve gone wrong is in failing to activate the "FSX SPECIFIC" PANEL.CFG file (named PANEL_FSX) contained inside each L1011 panel folder and which will, likely, result in a panel combing that´s elevated over the FS scenery horizon line thus restricting all/most of the external view.
All HJG supplied panels download with their FS2004 PANEL.CFG file activated .... by default.
Those HJG panels which are both FS2004 and FSX compatible contain a 2nd and "FSX SPCCIFIC" PANEL.CFG .... named "PANEL_FSX" .... as I mentioned above.
One needs to delete the FS2004 SPECIFIC default PANEL.CFG .... then ..... rename the PANEL_FSX file to read either "PANEL" or "PANEL.CFG" (in accordance with the panel installation instructions) .... and depending upon the file naming conventions for ones PC.
Again .... I believe this´s where you´ve possibly gone wrong .... and .... this adjustment will/should resolve your view problem quite satisfactorily.
Mark C BOG/CO
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Post by emann on Nov 23, 2014 13:07:49 GMT
thanks indeed for your reply.
when i installed, i deleted the original panel.cfg file and renamed the panel_fsx.cfg to just panel.cfg....is this the correct way to do it under the installed folder inside FSFSCONV directory please or is there some other file in another directory that i also need to replace?..can you send me an indication of the installation directories and in which are the cfg files to replace or better still any chance of someone sending me his own panel.cfg file that is working well and when on the ground one can see the outside view.
regards emann
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Post by Falcon on Nov 23, 2014 17:22:50 GMT
Since you deleted the default panel, I believe that due to some strange eye point in FSX you should be able to use the keys to lower the view. On my FSX I use Control + Q to lower and Control +Shift+ Q to raise it. Try that and see if you don't get the outside view thru the windscreen. Falcon
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 23, 2014 17:33:52 GMT
In my haste to reply, during the very early/pre-dawn hours of this morning, I actually missed your comment regarding having apparently already edited the PANEL_FSX named FSX spcific PANEL.CFG Re-reading your posting .... a couple of points which concern me are .... 1. If you´ve already named the PANEL_FSX PANEL.CFG version .... to read "PANEL" or "PANEL.CFG" (depening on file naming protocols in your PC .... you might need to experiment with both naming conntions) .... then you simply shouldn´t be experincing any such view problem at all. Are you certain you haven´t inadvertantly deleted the wrong PANEL.CFG ? Sorry .... but .... I do need to ask that. There´s certainly no other files that need being replaced .... or that need renaming either. 2. I´m also wondering if this may be the foundation of your problem .... FSUIPC is not required/necessary .... and nor should it used (so far as I´m aware) to control any of the panel views. If you´re in fact doing this, then, I wonder if that´s what might be preventing the correct view axis from being displayed "by default" and when (assumedly) using the correct, re-named, FSX specific PANEL.CFG file version. Beyond voluntary, or even necessary (on some PC´s), manupulations of internal FS parametrs .... the only function for which the presence of FSUIPC is required, in so far as these L1011 panels are concerned (in fact HJG supplied panels generally), is for the weather Raday uniti to be able to work .... but nothing else .... in fact even a non-registered FSUIPC version is all that´s required in order to nsure this functionality. I don´t use FSX myself .... but .... these L1011 panels "ARE" FSX compatible (though not FSX native) .... and apart from the fundamentals I´ve explained above, I regret, I´m not able to provide much moer assistance .... other than mntioning, that if I recall correctly, to change the elevation of the scenery horizon view through any panel, in FSX, requires differnt keybaoard commands (not SHIFT + ENTER or SHIFT + BACKSPACE) .... BUT AGAIN .... so long as the correct PANEL.CFG is being used and nothing else is possibly preventing/restricting the correct panel view axis from being displayed "by default", you shouldn´t be esxperiencing any such problem/s at all. Is there another FSX user of these L1011 panels that than can step in here and advise "EMANN" ?Mark C BOG/CO
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Post by emann on Nov 23, 2014 20:45:50 GMT
thanks to both falcon and aerofoto...but trial after trial i cannot get anywhere...maybe someone else using this on FSX can help me out as it is really a pity....i just love the classics and definitely this tristar is one of them...
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 23, 2014 23:37:21 GMT
As I said before .... I can´t really add much more intellgent opinion to this thread .... BUT AGAIN .... I wonder (repeat) .... "IF" his FSUIPC controlied view settings (assuming I´m understanding him correctly), may not not be convenient/compatible with the default axis/views designed into this particular panel/simulation ... and I therefore wonder if these adjustments might be the foundation of his particular problem.
"EMANN" .... I suggest you undo those FSUIPC view settings .... and then see what then happens.
I´m not aware of such a problem (so far as I can immediately recall) having been previously reported in regard to any of these L1011 simulations.
Is there anyone else out there who is currently using the HJG L1011´s and their panel/s .... "IN FSX" .... and whom may possibly be able to help ?
I´d like to see us able to resolve this particular issue for "EMANN" .... if at all possible.
Mark C BOG/CO
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 24, 2014 14:01:18 GMT
"EMANN" .... FYI .... using any of the HJG L1011 TRISTAR panels, this is the type of view perspective you should be seeing .... from panel to outside environment whilst on the ground .... in either FS2004 or FSX, Once again .... I urge to to look at (and possibly un-do) those FSUIPC controlled views that you´ve mentione having, apparently, set up and which may, possibly, be denying you what you should be seeing. Mark C BOG/CO
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Post by emann on Nov 24, 2014 15:39:40 GMT
this definitely has nothing to do with what i am getting on my screen...i will try again this evening...
in any case, what i did in fsuipc is that since i have all controls disabled in fsx to control them via fsuipc, i assigned the commands for eye view up / down etc via the fsuipc key assignment....maybe i have to reassign these controls in fsx itself?
tks in any case and would really appreciate anyone who uses it on fsx to provide his feedback.
regards emann
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Post by Herman on Nov 24, 2014 17:16:48 GMT
Here is the panel view I get when I load up the L1011 in my FSX with a wide screen monitor. N adjustment to seat height or eye point view was required. Herman
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 24, 2014 17:47:48 GMT
Thanks for doing that Herman YYYYYYYYYYYYYEP .... that (what Herman´posted) is pretty much what I´m seeing too. SO THEN .... That 2 differenbt view perspectives using the same panel/s .... mine being in FS2004 .... and Herman´s being in FSX .... and which both of which tend to agree. I´m now sure .... more than ever before .... that it must be the FSUIPC view settings (this is not necessary with any HJG supplied panel) that are, possibly/more than likely causing "EMANN´s" experience. Best "UN-DO" those settings .... and try again without them .... me thinks Mark C BOG/CO
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 24, 2014 17:58:21 GMT
Hey Herman .... I´ve just noticed something per your image. You don´t appear to be using the current/latest HJG L1011 panel/s .... as supplied by HJG earlier this year .... and which featuring the new multi-mode capable AP with it´s A/L functionality too. For me .... the AFCS Mode Anunciator and AFCS Warning Anunciatort displays, on the main panel, in your imagery, are the give away. Consider updating what you have for the latest versions .... and you´ll then have "A LOT MORE L1011 TRISTAR FUN/ENJOYMEN" BTW .... this discrepency won´t/shouldn´t have any bearing (whatsoever) on the FSX/FS2004 based view point and which is the subject of discussion within this particular thread .... since these views remain "unaltered" despite HJG´s transition from the old/original to the current/new/currnt L1011 panel versions. Mark C BOG/CO
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Post by emann on Nov 24, 2014 21:01:56 GMT
hi herman..thanks for the picture...can you send me the files of panel.cfg that you are using please.
tks emann
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 24, 2014 21:29:36 GMT
Actually .... that request "would not" be a good idea "EMANN".
I believe (from the images he´s provided) Herman´s using (possibly even unwittingly) the earlier/original version of the HJG L1011 panel files.
If he were to supply you with what th files he´s using .... then .... those files "WILL NOT" be compatible with the new/currently L1011 panel (even AIRCRAFT.CFG and AIR.FILE) which I you have.
I stress .... yet again .... that you may need to revise (preferrably un-do) whatever view settings you´ve applied through FSUIPS .... sinces I´m sure this´s what´s possibly screwing your panel to exterior scenry view.
I honestly can´t think of anything else it could be.
Mark C BOG/CO
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Post by emann on Nov 24, 2014 21:34:43 GMT
hi Mark...just finished testing and removed all view commands from fsuipc...for some reason however i cannot change the view up by using shift enter or ctrl q...and in any case i think i can resolve this maybe by adjusting some view command in the panel.cfg...as a means to turn around for a solution...the thing is that the outside view does not change when pressing these commands.
emann
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