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Post by bookie1066 on Dec 19, 2014 5:33:24 GMT
Flying the L 1011-250 at 31,000 and in level flight. The auto thottle speed selector won't let you set a speed past 400. Should be able to get to at least the 440's by the airspeed indicator before overspeed. Bug?
Thanks for the update that allows the L-1011 in FSX.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Dec 19, 2014 8:28:08 GMT
You shouldn't be flying at 400 KTS (KIAS I assume) at FL310
In fact the fastest IAS airspeed you should be realising is around 318-320 KIAS (economic) .... or MACH 0.82 to MACH 0.84 "at the very most".
Please refer to "SECTION 5" of my new L1011 forum based manual/"L1011 PANEL INSTALLATION & HANDLING NOTES" .... which records precisely how each L1011 simulation should be flown.
Get back to me if you need any further advice
Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by bookie1066 on Dec 19, 2014 16:06:35 GMT
You shouldn't be flying at 400 KTS (KIAS I assume) at FL310 In fact the fastest IAS airspeed you should be realising is around 318-320 KIAS (economic) .... or MACH 0.82 to MACH 0.84 "at the very most". Please refer to "SECTION 5" of my new L1011 forum based manual/"L1011 PANEL INSTALLATION & HANDLING NOTES" .... which records precisely how each L1011 simulation should be flown. Get back to me if you need any further advice Mark C AKL/NZ Mark, then you have a gauge problem in FSX. The overspend barber pole starts at about 370 at ground level (Edwards Air Force Base). As I climbed it went to well over 400 by 12,000. Overspeed line should be decreasing not increasing with altitude. Just in case I reloaded the gauge files and tried again. Same thing happens.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Dec 19, 2014 22:22:49 GMT
I don't use FSX so wouldn't know, but, none of the gauges represented within any of these L1011 panels should behave any differently between FS2004 and FSX .... and the HJG L1011 simulations have been FSX compatible (port-able .... though not native) from the very start/since late 2010. In any case I was only commenting in regard to your following statement .... What got my attention here was your reference to both "31,000 FT" and "400" .... the latter I assumed to be an IAS value. At 31,000 FT the L1011-250 simulation can be pushed up to (a very uneconomic airspeed of) 346 KIAS or MACH 0.89 .... "at the very most" .... beyond which the overspeed warning will be triggered .... at precisely 347 KIAS "at 31000 FT". The higher weight/higher thrust L1011 real world versions are capable of such airspeeds, but which, would never normally be flown in the interests of both safety and economy of course. What I was also saying, per my original reply, is airspeeds of between 305-320 KIAS .... or MACH 0.80 to MACH 0.84 .... are far more practical/typical of L1011's "at 31,000 FT" .... and which applies to these simulations also What these simulations are capable of "at around sea level to 10,000 FT or so" is something else yet again, but, why would anyone want to fly at, or around, 400 KTS within this lower altitude range or even let the simulation do so .... is all I was saying too In relation to your ASI gauge observations .... I've just performed a test flight (prior to draugting this reply) using the L1011-250 and can report as follows .... "400" is the maximum IAS airspeed value which may be dialled into the AT airspeed selector .... and this is intentional .... and also consistent with the maximum airspeed velocity displayed on the ASI gauge face. The barber pole represented within the principle ASI gauge (the standby ASI doesn't feature one .... we removed it as part of this last update and which is also consistent with our real world references) remains pegged at around 370 KTS .... and won't begin to be influenced/mpve/reduce until "after" 25,000 FT .... and should be sitting at around a 347 KT indication "by 31,000". That's how these features are intended to work within these simulations .... and do work .... so far as I can establish in FS2004 .... and FSX shouldn't impose any differences at all either. Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by bookie1066 on Dec 20, 2014 2:27:53 GMT
Recent flight a few hours ago I was at 31,000, flying 350 KTS, Mach meter read 0.589 and the barber pole was pegged at over 400 KTS. That's not reading right.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Dec 20, 2014 3:38:42 GMT
"Apparently not" .... on your system .... BUT .... I can't account for that/what, you say, you're seeing.
Typically .... and as I've already explained (above) .... it shouldn't be possible to hit 350 KIAS at 31,000 FT .... by virtue of the fact that doing so would simply trigger the OS warning.
I don't recall any such issue being previously reported (as this particular support forum page will testify) .... AND .... I don't believe any of the recent editing could have bumped anything else either since it was all restricted to some of AP functions and AFSC modes annunciator display features.
The AT nor IAS or MACH airspeed function were never touched .... and .... if there was a general problem with either of these I'm certain it'd be replicated in FS2004 too .... and which I simply can't see.
How have you got your internal FSX settings configured ?
"In FS2004" .... there's a "REALISM & SETTINGS" section featuring a menue various sliders and editable/selectable technical options .... based on ones particular preferences.
Among these editable/sectable options is a section labelled "INSTRUMENTS & LIGHTS" (again "in FS2004") .... I don't know how this's presented within FSX, but, I'm sure something similar exits .... ANYWAY .... assuming it does then there should be an option that forces/enables FS to display either "INDICATED AIRSPEED" or "TRUE AIRSPEED" .... according to personal preference.
What have you got selected ?
Personally .... I'd recommend selecting "DISPLAY INDICATED AIRSPEED" .... if that's not already been done.
Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by bookie1066 on Dec 20, 2014 6:51:45 GMT
Ok I'll try that and a few other things. I'll also get rid of my old downloads of the plane in FS 2004 and load the new L 1011 files and see what happens. It'll be a couple of days. My workweek starts on Saturday.
Hope you're not taking this wrong. Saw what I thought was a problem and I'd like to help fix it. If it's in the setting's I won't be the last person it happens to. Like to be able to give something back to this site.
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Post by bookie1066 on Dec 20, 2014 7:34:33 GMT
Ok thanks,that realism change did the trick. Sure going to miss that little speed demon going 443 KTS. lol
Last question 1011-500, in the pipeline?
And I'm going to wait very patiently for the FSX panels for the DC-10. But the Just Flight DC-10 bites the dust as soon as they show up.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Dec 20, 2014 8:50:37 GMT
"GOOD" .... And "NO" .... nothing taken the wrong way either. We support what we supply (try to at least) .... and 99% of the time (I think) we're successful in doing that .... versis 1% of the time we're not given that not everything runs/displays the same way on all system "YES" .... you should/must replace your old versilo L1011 files with the newest releases .... since swe don't support the old lot now. I though you had already done this in fact. About an L1011-500 .... We'll just have to wait'n'see what happens in the future In regard to the DC10's .... Although the panels we've just "gotten up" for these are FS2004 (only ....for the moment) there "ARE" FSX compatible DC10 panel options available from FLIGHTSIM.COM and which might work with our FDE, but, if using these, then, please remember that we "do not/cannot" provide support for these other non-HJG offerings. Our own FSX compatible/port-able DC10 panels are still a wee-way-away yet .... since it takes a fair bit of time to compile, test, and then certify any new panel .... especially given the fact that we/HJG like to try'n build/supply something of reasonable quality when we do release anything. Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by George Carty - HJG on Dec 20, 2014 11:03:00 GMT
Mark, then you have a gauge problem in FSX. The overspend barber pole starts at about 370 at ground level (Edwards Air Force Base). As I climbed it went to well over 400 by 12,000. Overspeed line should be decreasing not increasing with altitude. Just in case I reloaded the gauge files and tried again. Same thing happens. If your barber pole airspeed is increasing with altitude, then you have definitely got your FS settings set to display true airspeed rather than indicated airspeed. George
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