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Post by michael on Apr 14, 2015 18:18:25 GMT
Just spoted a couple of other inconsistencies, dont know if you want to check them out. The first is atc_colombia_1999_51f_N507DC if you check out the beutifully painted fusalage you will see that it does state it is N507DC but the wheel covers and wings state it is N508DC. The other is dc-8-50f_braniff_international_1965_55jt_n1509u = jelly bean c/s ? I think this belongs in the fantasy section if you still have one.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Apr 14, 2015 22:29:48 GMT
That particular texture probably won't be further edited. The artist concerned has decided to quit FS altogether. Sorry  DC8-55F N1509U, C/N # 45858, L/N # 274, was operated by BRANIFF during early 1967 .... having been acquired from PANAGRA .... whom leased it from McDONNELL-DOUGLAS. BRANIFF flew it, but, later leased it to SEAbOARD WORLD AIRWAYS during mid 1967 .... until it was returned to MDC during late 1967. I'm aware that during its BRANIFF operation (or part of it at least) this particular aircraft supported "BRANIFF INTERNATIONAL" fuselage titles, with the airlines "BI" tail logo, over its original yellow/green PANAGRA striping .... but .... can't say, definitively, whether or not it ever supported our own depicted BI orange jelly-bean livery (Michael VERLIN may possibly have definitive evidence .... I don't know, but, he retired from HJG during 2005), so then, what we have, is the way it is, short of someone else possibly redoing it in the future .... and which is an uncertain prospect. Sorry once again Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by tristar - HJG on Apr 14, 2015 23:13:05 GMT
That particular texture won't be edited. The artist concerned has decided to quit FS altogether. Sorry DC8-55F N1509U, C/N # 45858, L/N # 274, was operated by BRANIFF during early 1967 .... having been acquired from PANAGRA .... whom leased it from McDONNELL-DOUGLAS. BRANIFF later leased it to SEAbOARD WORLD AIRWAYS during mid 1967 .... until it was returned to MDC during late 1967. I'm aware that during its BRANIFF operation (or part of it at least) this particular aircraft supported "BRANIFF INTERNATIONAL" fuselage titles, with the airlines "BI" tail logo, over yellow/green PANAGRA livery/striping .... but .... can't say, definitively, whether or not it ever supported the depicted BI orange jelly-bean livery (Michael VERLIN may have definitive evidence .... I don't know, but, he retuired from HJG during 2005), but, what we have, is the way it is, short of someone else redoing it in the future .... and which is an uncertain prospect. Sorry once again Mark C AKL/NZ Hi Mark. There are several reference to N1509U being in orange jelly-bean, but have not found any photos to back it up. But, I can answer a question from you back in 2007. Does anyone know if DC8-55F N1509U ever operated in definitive PANAGRA livery ? I have a picture of here in what appears to be the yellow & green PANAGRA fuselage cheatline .... but .... also with "BRANIFF INTERNATIONAL" fuselage titles and "BI" tail logo with the US flag. I'm just curious as to whether or not any -50's appeared in definitive PANAGRA livery with titles  Mark C AKL/NZ The answer to that is yes. Attachment DeletedThe photo to prove it. OK, off to bed. Paul |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Apr 14, 2015 23:43:42 GMT
"THANKS" for that Paul .... YEAH ..... my own research has come a long way since then  The BI/PANAGRA picture I referred to, back then, appears in the book "AIRLINES OF THE 1960'S" by Gerry MANNING. It shows N1509U rotating out of Prestwick/Scotland, during 1967, and in the livery I described. I'd be in breach of copyright to scan an present that particular image "HERE" .... so .... here's an alternative image (from the "NEILS NOSTALGIA" website) showing the same aircraft in the livery I was describing ....  Then Michael VERLIN's repaint "might" be correct .... after all. Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by tristar - HJG on Apr 16, 2015 15:15:29 GMT
"THANKS" for that Paul .... YEAH ..... my own research has come a long way since then The BI/PANAGRA picture I referred to, back then, appears in the book "AIRLINES OF THE 1960'S" by Gerry MANNING. It shows N1509U rotating out of Prestwick/Scotland, during 1967, and in the livery I described. I'd be in breach of copyright to scan an present that particular image "HERE" .... so .... here's an alternative image (from the "NEILS NOSTALGIA" website) showing the same aircraft in the livery I was describing .... Then Michael VERLIN's repaint "might" be correct .... after all. Mark C AKL/NZ Hi Mark. There are many pictures in that scheme, but very few in full Panagra colours. Michael's paint is probably correct. Not finding any pictures does not mean that there are none, Also websites list it as orange. I trust Aerome's and he also has it down as orange. If I find a picturte, I'll post it here. Paul |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Apr 16, 2015 20:10:55 GMT
Given the apparent interest in this particular aircraft subject I've moved the discussion regarding it .... from the "REPORT BROKEN LINKS" thread .... to this new thread .... where I think the discussion is, perhaps, more appropriately placed  Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Apr 16, 2015 21:10:53 GMT
"Very possible" Paul .... even though the aircraft remained with BRANIFF for less than a year (1967) .... considering it was also leased by them, or through MDC, to SEABOARD WORLD during that same year also. We know that some BRANIFF aircraft supported a few Jelly-Bean livery shades for very short time only .... even though this was mostly due to those particular shades (the light aqua and periwinkle schemes were 2 examples .... applied to B707's and B720's though) they became somewhat awkward to patch later on and where necessary. It otherwise wouldn't surprise me to learn that BRANIFF "might" have painted a particular aircraft in a particular shade .... AND THEN .... sold, or returned it to its lessor, very shortly afterward .... stanger things happen at sea Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by jeeiii on Sept 5, 2015 15:04:49 GMT
We did a 16-part series on the 'Jellybean -era' and made 'virtual' chips based on our eyewitness' recollections. If you ever would like them posted here, let know. The series is on airlinercafe.com. N1807 (-62CF) has become quite a mystery as there are NO known photos of it in it's delivery color! We know Panagra Green but which one is still a mystery. DKPG had a much shorter period of application (Feb-Aug. 1967). It was 'inspired' by the Panagara DC-8 trim color but not an exact match, according to Phiilip George of Harper & George Ad Agency, who created the new '67 colors. New Green aka Light Panagra Green was to become more popular of the 2-Panagra Greens and again was 'inspired' by the planned new -62 scheme that never happened due to the merger. Have enjoyed all your creations and thanks for allowing me to join!
John
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Sept 6, 2015 15:05:16 GMT
YEAH .... could be an interesting topic to view .... if your talking about video or even picture/photo mozaics. Feel free to post it on our "GENERAL" forum page .... if you care to .... along with all of the appropriat acreditations to of course Mark C BOG/CO |
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