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Post by asher737 on Jul 3, 2018 19:03:12 GMT
I downloaded the DC-10-30F from the HJG website and followed the instructions on how to add the livery I wanted. The flight model looks amazing but I noticed that the wing tip navigation lights as well as the small lightning rod details by the wingtips are black almost as if a texture is missing.
The navigation lights still illuminate properly in their place yet the light housing textures just appear missing on the flight model. I am having the same problem with the MD-81, MD-82 and MD-83. Does anyone know what this could be from? I would love to use these flight models, they are the best freeware Ive seen so far for these airliners. MD-83 example
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Post by asher737 on Jul 3, 2018 19:04:02 GMT
the link isnt working
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jul 3, 2018 22:15:40 GMT
There's no known problem that would cause this .... that I'm aware of. Our MD-80's/90's have been available since 2011 .... and our DC-10's have all been available since 2015 .... and no such issue has ever been reported in regard to either simulations and in FS2004 or FSX. Certainly all of the FSX videos (of our DC-10's in action in this particular case) among the 4 pages of various videos to be found within our following linked Videos forum page .... tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/board/34/hjg-videos.... don't reveal any such issue either. The actual green and red navigation lights (on the DC-10's) are quite small .... they're not large/overstated lighting blooms, so, you may simply have missed them. ALSO .... The navigation and all other external lighting needs to be selected "ON" from main panel view .... or it can't work. Our currently downloadable MD-80/90 and DC-10 panel range is "not" FSX compatible though (our new and soon to be released DC-10 panel range "will" be however), so, if you're using any non-HJG supplied panels with our simulatios and in FSX then I don't know if any degree of incompatibility exists with the external lighting rigging of our models and with the lighting engaging functions of other non-HJG supplied panels. This could be the cause of your problem .... although I'm simply speculating in the absence of any known issue. Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jul 3, 2018 22:22:13 GMT
The models aren't missing anything .... as I recall the wing related lighting on these models is hard coded to these models. Where you might be missing something though is if you have not installed the base pack contents correctly. I need to check (I'm on another PC at the moment and can't do so in egard to FS matters until much later today) .... BUT .... I think the currently downloadable DC-10 base packs feature effects files which are lighting related and must be installed inside the FS "EFFECTS" folder .... and I think similar may also apply in regard to the MD-80's/90's too. All lighting, textures, and the 3D models (in regard to these subjects and more) are FSX compatible/portable .... with no known incompatibilities .... save for our curretly downloadable panels for these subjects which can't work in FSX. Theres' no logical reason I can think of as to why the lighting on these models shuldn't function similarly using MSFS default panel options either. You may simply have screwed-up the installation of your aircraft base pack file components .... in regard to their EFFECTS files where these are provided, so, review what you've done in this regard, and/or review whether or not there's any FS specific configuration option than governs/influences the display of lighting effects a;so .... is the best advice I can suggest in the absence of any such known issuw .... in either FS2004 or FSX. I'm "not" an FSX user so can't assist beyond these basics I regret to add Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by Tony Madge - HJG on Jul 4, 2018 4:56:18 GMT
Can any FSX users help out with this one please?
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jul 4, 2018 5:51:22 GMT
As can be seen in our FSX related DC-10 videos the navigation lights all work fine (the bulbs are small but they are there and do work perfectly .... similarly in both FS versions in fact), so, I'm (quietly) confident this's an FX/effects file installation related error .... or .... maybe a lighting effects option related issue in FSX "if such exists at all".
Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 13:37:57 GMT
I do not even know what is "static wake" detail? Screenshot of your problem would be helpful
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Post by asher737 on Jul 4, 2018 13:53:36 GMT
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Post by asher737 on Jul 4, 2018 13:55:33 GMT
I'm trying to add a screenshot yet I cant seem to get it visible.
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Post by George Carty - HJG on Jul 4, 2018 14:04:06 GMT
I do not even know what is "static wake" detail? Screenshot of your problem would be helpful I'm guessing he means the fuel jettison pipes near the wingtips. George
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Post by asher737 on Jul 4, 2018 14:09:12 GMT
The static wakes are the small lightning rods by the wingtips. Those and the nav light housings appear black on the flight model
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Post by asher737 on Jul 4, 2018 14:10:09 GMT
I think they are more commonly known as the static dis chargers This is the best I could do. I apologize for the poor quality. As you can see the nav light housing textures are black. When I turn the nav lights on, they illuminate properly and the textures remain black.
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Post by asher737 on Jul 4, 2018 14:24:53 GMT
Sorry guys it still isn't showing up
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Post by asher737 on Jul 4, 2018 19:43:21 GMT
My nav lights work properly but the wingtip light fixtures are non-existant and the texture is black as well as on the little lightning rods by the wingtips on every HJG flight model Ive downloaded from the website including the DC-10-30F, MD-81, MD-82, MD-83, MD-87 and MD-88.
Again my lights work perfectly but the texture for the wingtip light housings appear black. I tried doing some more research and from what Ive seen my best guess is that black textures in FSX indicate a wrong file format or a missing texture.
I understand no one has reported this problem before in FSX so has anyone got any ideas for why its just the HJG aircraft that are acting this way? Is there an additional detail texture I need to download for these models?
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jul 5, 2018 1:49:58 GMT
Why are we starting a new thread on this same subject when the original query/thread is still active ? tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/thread/9105/lights-static-details-appearing-blackI'll let this data sit for 24 hours ... then I'll try merging it (if I can) into the original thread which is "quite satisfactory for the purpose of this same discussion" ANYWAY .... Reading you latest reply .... my earlier consideration (what I was going to suggest) is not now going to apply. Correct me if I'm wrong but your describe the following .... "navigation lights (etc) are all working .... but .... appear set within black housings .... and static dischargers on the wing trailing edges appear dark and untextured"I assume I've got that right What we understood before is that your navigation lights weren't working at all What I now understand you to be describing "IS" the way it should all should appear in FS .... so .... this being the case I very much doubt you have any issue to be reconciled. I want you to focus on my following images of our DC-10's .... and in doing focus particularly on the wing tip details .... NAVIGATION LIGHTS DC-10's
DC-10-10DC-10-15DC-10-30/CF/FDC-10-40WING TIP (tc) DETAILING DC-10'sFor further comparison/s with what you currently have versus what you should be seeing please use the following provided link to view many other images of our DC-10's on PP1 and PP3 of this particular presentation .... tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/thread/8739/new-dc-panel-preparations-phaseDespite the fact these are all FS2004 images it makes/should make "absolutely no differences whatsoever" .... as the FSX videos I earlier referred you to will confirm. Again .... if what you have appears to be the same as, or similar to, what's evident within the above imagery, link, and the earlier recommended videos .... then there's absolutely nothing wrong at all. If people expect the like of fuse wire-thin static dischargers to be textured .... then .... I feel they're being over-expectant since these details, in these models, are "so fine" they can't be textured (the PSD's supporting these models don't models don't allow it .... so far as I'm aware) and should therefore appear as dark/untextured features The only other possibility is that there may (possibly) be some underlying graphics related display issue "within FS or your system settings" on your end but which is outside our capacity to be able to fix let alone advise in regard to .... at least not without images. We're happy to continue analysing this though .... and are content to offer our opinion/s despite the fact I now have very little doubt there's any issue to be (or that can be) reconciled by us, Just digressing slightly for a moment .... for the benefit of any new comers reading this report .... PLEASE NOTE: The panels we currently provide for these simulations "ARE NOT" FSX compatible (our new and soon to be release DC-10 panel will be both FS2004 and FSX compatible though) .... BUT .... our DC-10 soundpacks are offered as separately downloadable FS2004 and FSX specific files. These DC-10 simulations (base packs, FDE, models, and textures) are both FS2004 and FSX compatible .... and without any known limitations in regard to any of their display or animation related features. "ASHER737" .... with regard to your failed image display attempts .... you need to upload your imagery to an image hosting service .... then .... link the URL's for those images back to this forum. The image display system we use here is uniform/standard among almost all other FS forums. Due to various recently applied size restrictions though (given we're a free site) it's no longer possible for anyone to add image attachments to any of their postings .... I don't know if that's what you've been trying to do. Mark C AKL/NZ
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