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Post by simpilo on Nov 20, 2018 22:14:50 GMT
I installed the DC 10-30 with Pan-Am 1984 livery and the tape panel variant. Nice panel. Some fonts are to small to discern. I do not know how to fix that. I have to wear 2.75x reading glasses to see anything but that font is so tiny I can't read all the labels for each gauge.
I read the manual on the site to see how to make her fly using the GPS (not era accurate). I prefer the GPS for simplicity instead of finding latitude and longitude coordinance for each way point in a flight plan. I verified that NAV mode is set to 'Split' in the overhead. I tried to press INS/GPS button but it seemed to be 'stuck' in heading select mode and would only fly the heading I told it. I have Fs Navigator but won't be using it because the panel MCP may not respond to FS Navigator in FP mode. Will you explain to me how to make her fly using the GPS in steps?
The flying characteristics are right. The new DC 10-30 feels heavy and responsive. Performing a Auto Land was easy but I disengaged everything for a manual landing at first land. I don't think the plane would auto flare anyway like a Boeing 737 NG will which seems to be era accurate.
For some reason FS2004's fuel and payload manager reported it was overweight. I don't remember by how much. I suspected maybe that was intentional for long haul flights. It feels like the heavy bird was meant for long haul rather than domestic flights. Anything over 2,500 nm.
I really appreciate the V-Speeds reference in the panel. It is dynamic enough to update itself during flight as fuel is burned. That helps tremendously. Makes Vapp, flaps, and landing ref speed easier.
AP1 will engage but AP2 will not engage. Something to do with AC Bus isolation in the manual but as I said i cant see well enough that tiny font which is why I never start cold and dark. (running it at 1024x768 resolution which is max for this old laptop).
It's a nice add-on. I thank you for it. The HJG DC 10 is one of my favorite planes. Your team did outstanding on it overall.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 20, 2018 23:09:25 GMT
This will be dependendant on your monotoer size .... nothing less than an old 19" (inch) monitor is recommended .... and which is precisely what I use and without any visual issues at all. As stated within "SECTION 7.00 - BASIC FLYING GUIDES" our forum based/online manual .... tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/thread/9147/dc10-panel-installation-handling-notes We load 100% fuel capacity and payload into each of ou simulations in order to promote more accurate flight plannning. As stated in the manual .... each simulation loads into FS with both 100% payload cand fuel capacities .... and the end used is then expected to manually adjust these in acordance with the calvculated requirements of their virtual flight. The stated overlkoads are correct for the compiled maximum cpacities of both fuel and payload. Flying with maximum fuel load will require a substantial payload reduction. Flying with maximum payload will require sunbstation fuel reduction. Reducing payload will promote more fuel being accomodated .... and which will in turn promote greater range. Reducing fuel loading will promote greater payloads being accomodated .... but will also impose a range penalty too. These options are all consistent with the rquirements of good flight planning which is essential in order to get the very best out of most of the simulatios we offer. The DC-10-10 is/was essentially a domestic aircraft .... intended for US high density medium range type routes. No .... and as mentioned within the manual .... "AP2" is only engaged for a fully automatic approach and landing .... with auo-flare for landing. This first requires AP "LAND" mode to be engaged (first) .... then "AP2" engaged (second). "AP2 will not engage unless AP "LAND" mode has first been engaged We´re otherwise glad you seem to be enjoying our new DC-10 project .... and which is scheduled to be further updated/improved soon and as mentioned within the following thread .... tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/thread/9240/laker-airways-project-revisions-expansion Mark C BOG/CO
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Post by simpilo on Nov 21, 2018 3:06:43 GMT
I prefer the GPS for simplicity instead of finding latitude and longitude coordinance for each way point in a flight plan. I verified that NAV mode is set to 'Split' in the overhead. I tried to press INS/GPS button but it seemed to be 'stuck' in heading select mode and would only fly the heading I told it. I have Fs Navigator but won't be using it because the panel MCP may not respond to FS Navigator in FP mode. Will you explain to me how to make her fly using the GPS in steps?
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 21, 2018 12:55:48 GMT
I have my hands full in regard to admin and personal affairs at the moment. I have therefore asked someone else to step in and explain .... when they have the time to do so. In ay case .... 3 auto navigation options are available within each of our DC-10 panels/simulations .... - Classic VOR to VOR NAV .... only good for maximum distances of up to 194 miles in FS (and some FS VOR facilities have much less range than that) .... requiring constant updasting along the course of ones intended route. - INS NAV- GPS NAVIn regard to GPS NAV .... "So far as I´m aware" (because I never use the FS GPS .... I simply don´t like it) a route first needs to be compiled into the FS Flight Planning facility and then the simulations "GPS NAV" navigation option engaged in regard to that. "So far as I´m aware also" .... each of these navigation options compiled into all of these DC-10 panels/simultions work fine. There are no known issues with either option .... provided theyre used correctly to start with of course Hopefully one of our team will get back to you soon-ish/eventually in regard to this Mark C BOG/CO
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Post by simpilo on Nov 21, 2018 17:45:10 GMT
I looked all over every centimeter of the main panel and captain's panel and throttle panel did not see even one hint of a GPS/NAV button. I tried both Tape and Normal. This is the second time I ever needed to ask how to use GPS navigation in 10 years of flight sim lol. I feel dumb.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 21, 2018 17:50:00 GMT
No .... no question (asked due to a thirst for knowledge or guidence in regard to operating procedure/s) is ever a dumb question.
Let one of our in-house technical team get back to you .... please.
No pont in my trying to explain it all since (apart from my basic awarenes of how it works) it´s a feature of these panels/simulations I "never" use.
Mark C BOG/CO
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Post by simpilo on Nov 21, 2018 18:13:47 GMT
I see I missed a paragraph. I blame it on dyslexia LOL.. tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/thread/9147/dc10-panel-installation-handling-notesSays - AP1 and AP2 selector switches .... PLEASE NOTE: No AP modes are selectable unless AP1 or AP2 is engaged. PLEASE NOTE ALSO: AP1 and AP2 can only be engaged simultaneously while AP "LAND" mode is engaged for a fully automatic approach, flare, and landing. The VOR/LOC and ILS modes will use the NAV1 radio when AP1 is engaged and the NAV2 radio when AP2 is engaged, unless the RADIO switch on the overhead panel (see section 2.00) is switched to "BOTH ON 1" or "BOTH ON 2", in which case both AP1 and AP2 will use NAV1 or NAV2 as selected. When LAND mode is used with both autopilots engaged, the NAV radio used will be the one corresponding to the autopilot which was engaged first. The INS/GPS mode will use the INS when AP1 is engaged and the FS default GPS when AP2 is engaged, unless the WPT NAV switch on the overhead panel (see section 2.00) is switched to "BOTH INS" or "BOTH GPS", in which case both AP1 and AP2 will use INS or GPS as selected. I translate that to as per verbatim. AP1 is INs and AP2 is GPS. OR, GPS on Both bbut still needs AP2 engaged. This is totally new to me. I like the change Oh BTW I also installed the DC 10-30ER with Northwest Airlines 1996 Paint. Very nice beautiful plane too. I have always liked the DC 10 because its BIG and a good safety record despite a flaw that could have been remedied for the long run. The DC 10 is still flying today and is used in the military in USA I wish for KC-10 military paints with air to air refuel boom www.military.com/equipment/kc-10-extenderEdit: I followed the manual now I have GPS navigation with AP2 on and not had to set the NAV mode in the overhead. One of these days I will take alot of Tylenol and learn INS. It's acvtually a current SkyWest Flight KOKC to KMSP non stop from flightaware.com.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 21, 2018 19:15:24 GMT
"Does" help For a moment, and when replying earlier, I thought your issue/s might have been more complex .... but .... it eems you´re slowly sorting it all out for yourself George might have a bit of good advice/guidence to offer later on though. Mark C BOG/CO
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Post by simpilo on Nov 21, 2018 20:34:25 GMT
I will be looking forward to what George has to share about it. I posted screenshots. Man I love this add-on! Even though it has Auto-Land I always disengage Autopilot just about 300ft above ground. I love the task doing the manual landing.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 21, 2018 23:04:55 GMT
If you´re flying NW0/NWA .... I don´t think their DC-10´s (-40´s and later -30´s) were equipped to A/L (according to information we learned recently) .... so .... you´re probably doing well by landing manually. We left the A/L system in our NWA/NWO DC-10-40 panels for the sake of both "convenience and uniformity" .... otherwise it becomes a hell of a task to write other specific sub variant descriptions for the manual. The way we look it it is .... people can decide, themselves, whether or to use, or not use, the A/L system in our NWA/NWO DC-10-40 panels .... again the choice s "theirs" Mark C BOG/CO
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Post by simpilo on Nov 22, 2018 0:38:52 GMT
I just tried the HJG DC 10-40 v3. Landed in Raleigh a few minutes ago from Minneapolis. I decided on the APP to 23 to see how well it actually will auto land. I was happy it actually did flare. I didn't notice the VSI needle on touch down. I think -250 to -350 is a good rate in a heavy bird. I only concern myself with greased landings flying light propeller driven planes. Those have no shocks ie C172(I may not know of any yet). Airliners do have shocks and struts (Not sure if FS9 even cares LOL). It'll be on a part time frequency using A/L. I am still adapting to it. It's a great improvement over the previous version. Great performance.
As much as I love to use FS Navigator I don't hesitate one second to fly without it. The bird handles to good for it. My style of flying if easterly I go to the FL350 reduce speed 15-25 knots below coffin corner 280 knots at FL350 works, FL410 260 knots is good too. Still have the same ground speed relevant to tail/headwinds. Always paying attention to that long needle that steadily lowers the higher you are.
At 130nm from the airport I start descent to 3,000ft -2500fpm with spoilers 1/4. at 12,500ft I slow her down to 240 knots. I steadily bleed off speed closer to the approach. Position the plane for a full ILS approach. It gives me enough elbow room to adjust airspeed, flaps, arm spoilers, arm auto-braking. Never gone wrong doing it that way. If i use approach plates I would have to move out of my comfort zone lol.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 22, 2018 0:59:04 GMT
I can see you´re having "fun" .... and obviously will for quite some timer to come too Mark C BOG/CO
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Post by Nathan Ford - HJG on Nov 24, 2018 12:39:45 GMT
From my understanding, you set the WPT NAV to “SPLIT” on the overhead, the HSI to “INS GPS” and press the INS GPS button below the HDG window on the captains autopilot MCP, then AP2 to CMD.
This should then follow the GPS. Pleased you got it sorted though. When you get some time, try the INS, it adds a whole lot of extra realism and gives you something to do instead of just monitoring the flight.
Cheers, Nathan
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Post by George Carty - HJG on Nov 24, 2018 17:59:05 GMT
Hi there,
Haven't been on my flight simulation PC much lately (it's in a chilly downstairs room and I've had a persistent cold) so I've just now comfirmed the functioning of the DC-10 autopilot's GPS mode.
With the WPT NAV switch in its default position you should be able to use GPS navigation via AP2, while with the switch in the "BOTH GPS" position you should be able to use either AP1 or AP2.
Hope this helps!
George
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Post by simpilo on Nov 25, 2018 23:40:17 GMT
Thanks for helping me understand the GPS function. I have been having loads of fun flying your DC-10 I almost have one of each variant installed still need to get DC 10-15 installed. I pretty much spend more time with manuals now. You guys are very good
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