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Post by walterleo on Aug 4, 2021 9:59:46 GMT
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Aug 4, 2021 10:28:08 GMT
It's actually not too far off fantasy at all .... because both AIRBORNE EXPRESS and UPS DC-8's were in fact upgraded with semi-EFIS type flight decks/instrumentation.
Mark C
AKL/NZ
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Post by walterleo on Aug 4, 2021 12:30:18 GMT
Hi Mark:
After playing with "my panel" I find, that the original ADI is far better readable in the simulation, the "glass" HSI ist better.
Kind regards
Walter
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Aug 4, 2021 18:10:53 GMT
That configuration would only be appropriate to the very late 1980's, and the 1990's, since not many DC-8's were equipped with it .... and those that were so equipped flew for the above mentioned operators primarily.
We were going to represent it, but, it's scope was considered "too limited" given, in the interests of authenticity, it'd only favour our AIRBORNE EXPRESS and UPS DC-8-63's, -71's, and -73's.
Mark C
AKL/NZ
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Post by Erik Ingram - HJG on Aug 4, 2021 19:10:49 GMT
Might have to do some experimenting with that myself...  The KC-135R fleet has a similar semi-EFIS layout as seen here: www.flickr.com/photos/zymurgy661/14182149607At least some of the fleet is in the process of being upgraded with the Block 45 system which replaces the entire center instrument block with another, larger EFIS screen, though that would probably be impractical to implement for sim purposes. |
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Post by walterleo on Aug 6, 2021 8:40:18 GMT
Hi friends: Still more experiments: The Collins glass ADI of first generation in flightsimulation is not well readable and had his less functions than its mechanical sibling. But a more advanced glass ADI looks good:  Kind regards Walter |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Aug 6, 2021 9:07:01 GMT
This's about as updated as "some of" (not all of) the DC-8-60's .... and -70's (mostly) .... ever got with "semi-EFIS" FD's ....  VIDEO www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DheQoAbOMgMark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by alex94 on Aug 6, 2021 22:18:35 GMT
awesome stuff there walter. is this origianlly a hjg panel that you've modified? id love to get my hands on at some stage |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Aug 7, 2021 5:32:37 GMT
You might not need to look very far/wait very long Erik  Some years ago I had a non-HJG colleague of mine evolve his/the following 2 panels especially "for HJG KS135-E and KC135-R use. KC135-E KC135-R He ran into a couple of minor issues with both though that he couldn't resolve himself (it might have been in relation to FSX) .... and had to consult with "another" non-HJG party, but, I think he was let down by that person in the process and consequently this development .... albeit they're otherwise "PERFECTLY USABLE .... were suspended and work hasn't resumed and I've been "sitting on both" ever since. In fact the only really limiting factor concerning these 2 panels is that they're both FS2004 compatible only .... so far as I'm aware .... unlike our George CARTY's own civil ty[e B707 panels which are FS2004 native "and FSX portable" too without any issues and are an adequate stand in "for the military simulations we offer". Leave this with me Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by walterleo on Aug 7, 2021 7:28:02 GMT
Hi Alex!
It is the HJG panel I have modified for my use. I'll send you a PM.
Kind regards
Walter
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Post by alex94 on Aug 7, 2021 8:50:10 GMT
Can’t wait to see more screens of the panel Walter |
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Post by walterleo on Aug 8, 2021 13:32:15 GMT
Hi friends: Thanks, Mark, for the pictures of the KC-135 panels and thanks to Alex for his interest. One point: I always try to install an AoA in "my" panels, following Wolfgang Langwiesches point about the importance of the angel of attack for safe flying. www.goodreads.com/book/show/680115.Stick_and_RudderFor flight simulation models there is an additional benefit: As the data of the real airplanes are often not available or differ from the FS flight model, the AoA is a good guide to choose the correct speeds especially for approaches. In my last picture of a DC8-73F 108,8 tons LW one can see, that at 142 kts flap 35 (book value of the real airplane) the AoA is 4,5 deg and the nose is down around 1-2 deg. For the correct landing attitude 6,5 AoA and 125 kts would be ideal:  Kind regards Walter |
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Post by darrenvox on Aug 8, 2021 14:55:04 GMT
kind of wish i had that autopilot setup on the panels for all my cp air va flights
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The KC-135R fleet has a similar semi-EFIS layout as seen here: 
