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Post by walterleo on Oct 1, 2021 10:44:40 GMT
Hi friends: After "flying" so many years with "classic panels" now an approach and landing the "glass way" with a Superjet 100 to Campeche Mexico. The approach and landing was via its VOR DME 16. As I don't know up to now, how to program the FMS I have also the trusted Garmin GPS 500 on board. After doing the procedure turn by AP turning to final approach coarse: Now to Minimum at DME 5: Good reason for not busting the minimum: Now AP, AT off: Arrived! It was some 10 kts too fast, so I lost some concrerte, but there is plenty of it (2500 m) available, a lot for a lite Superjet. Kind regards Walter
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Post by Herman on Oct 1, 2021 11:37:55 GMT
Yes Walter. Those newer aircraft with their glass cockpits take a bit of time to get used to. I am also a bit lost when it comes to configuring those FFMC's. Herman
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Post by Mike Monce - HJG on Oct 1, 2021 12:55:35 GMT
I alternate between old school VOR and new school glass/FMS. Each have their appeal to me. I learned in the real world with VOR, so I've always been most comfortable with that. But I also want to try and keep up with the more advanced navigation. It's true with glass/FMS that once it's programmed in, a lot of the work is done. I can see the great safety advantage there for actual flying.
The PMDG 747 FMS is good to learn on. However, on the advice of a former Delta 767 pilot I worked with at the museum, he suggested the LevelD 767 FMS as being extremely realistic. If you can still find that package, it is very good for learning the FMS. It also is a very good and complete sim for the 767.
Mike
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Post by walterleo on Oct 1, 2021 14:05:10 GMT
Hi friends:
I even have the real manual for the Superjet with its own FMS manual, seems its the same as for the AB 320. Even the FS 2004 flightplan enters into the FMS but no way to do more flightplaning or VNAV programing.
Kind regards
Walter
But will try to find the LevelD 767!
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Oct 1, 2021 20:11:28 GMT
That's precisely what I've heard (and seen) too Mike. I had the FS2002 based "B767 PIC" predecessor of what eventually became the "B767 LEVEL D" simulation. Even in the original FS2002 evolution its FMC was sufficiently good as to be recommended (by some R/W aviation parties) as a "basic" trainer/home familiarization tool for the system .... and my understanding is it got better still, with time, and its transition into "B767 LEVEL D". B767 LEVEL D (videos)FMC PROGRAMIMING www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjHgUDs9l0gTHE SIMULATION www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-L3fgKjSdIwww.youtube.com/watch?v=-O5-tsch1tEMark C AKL/NZ
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Post by darrenvox on Oct 2, 2021 23:40:21 GMT
cool shots there walter
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Post by walterleo on Oct 7, 2021 8:39:16 GMT
Hi friends: After some more trials and studying the manual its clear, that the FMS of the Superjet simulation has missing functions regarding the flight planning. Some of them can be overcome using the Garmin 500 GPS additionally. Also the simulation has some problems with its auto trim system. Nevertheless it is fun to fly the Superjet. Kind regards Walter
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Post by darrenvox on Oct 9, 2021 23:29:16 GMT
cool
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Post by randomizer on Oct 10, 2021 0:09:27 GMT
This thread really caught my eye and a glass cockpit is something that I have not used in FS9 for a very long time although some aircraft so equipped reside in my hangers. So, I tried a little experiment using an old Project Airbus A319 with a Ken Mitchell panel (always quality work from KM), and doing a short flight over a very familiar route.
The route is Montreal Dorval to Toronto Pearson although in my "modern FS9 installation it is still Malton and it's a trip I have done using Viscounts, Vanguards, Electras, B-727s (HJG), B-737s (TinMouse 200 and HJG 300), DC-8s, DC-9s, BAC-1-11s, VC-10s and MD-83s all with "steam gauges". No problems, the route is well known as are the airports both in FS9 and real life. I use the NavCanada CAP series for departures and approaches while even with little stick time in the VC-10, MD-83 and 737-300, these aircraft have never presented significant problems.
To set things up, I did the trip using real weather and flying the TinMouse 737-200 and BAC-1-11 and both flights were without issues. To get ready for the Airbus I spent a fair bit of time learning the FMC and with the panel and aircraft model notes and started the flight.
Long story short, it was a gong show. For some reason, the data failed to register in this old brain. My normal instrument scan did not seem to work and I just could not absorb the information as presented. Of course it's all there but I kept losing situational awareness and got into both speed and angle of attack situations that should never have happened. I suppose that more practice would eventually solve the problem but going from the Boeing twin to the slightly more advanced BAC was entirely seamless. Most of my "modern" FS9 flights predate the glass cockpit but I can see that it is likely to take a non-trivial amount of effort to get comfortable with them.
So thanks for this thread and triggering a very humbling FS experience.
-C
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Post by darrenvox on Oct 10, 2021 20:23:40 GMT
good to know
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Post by walterleo on Oct 11, 2021 8:54:15 GMT
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Post by walterleo on Oct 16, 2021 16:06:54 GMT
Hi friends: Thanks to the combination of Garmin GNS 530 and the FMS one can "fly" instrument approaches to various small airports ON AP, IF THEY ARE IN THE FS9 NAV DATABASE. So, to Puerto Escondido: Despite MMPS is located at the shore of the Pacific one has to follow carefully the descent profile: Kind regards Walter
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