ADI Flight Director not working properly

[walterleo]

The AFG Caravelles are a long time here at HJG presented. But seems nonbody inclusive myself ever stumbled over the fact, that the aircraft config has the same bug the Convair ones have had also once.
See that:

tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/thread/8137/cv-990-panels-ideas

Also same problem same cure:

change the line:

[autopilot]
autopilot_available = 1
flight_director_available = 0
default_vertical_speed = 1000

to:

[autopilot]
autopilot_available = 1
flight_director_available = 1
default_vertical_speed = 1000

Kind regards

Walter

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

In regard to the CARAVELLE's .... we didn't "compile" their CFG data by virtue of the fact we didn't produce the panels for these simulations.

We did "edit" the FDE iupon receiving these simulations .... but only in regard to W&B and FT sections which were determined to need subtle improvement/s since nothing else seemed to be off-spec

You're right though that "IF" a valid issue does exist (in respect of the FD), then, it's been there since before the CARAVELLE's took up residence "HERE" (from around 2009) and any such issue has remained undetected all this time

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

Walter .... I won't be able to look at this issue "for a bit" due to other priorities at the moment, but, if your concern is in regard to the FD (only) .... THEN .... I assume your comment/s are in regard to the CARAVELLE VIR and 10R panel ADI's only and not in regard the early aircraft type panels which, from memory, don't feature FD's.

"IF THIS's THE CASE" .... then the latter could explain why the FD has never been activated in some panels (again I need to check this "later" .... when I have time to do so .... it's just not convenient at the moment ) because since the AP's in each of the CARAVELLE panels (so far far released) all function identically, then, AP data for the CARAVELLE III through VIN panels would likely have been transcribed to the -VIR and -10R CFG's also .... thus creating the alleged discrepancy that nobody's apparently been aware of since 2009 and until now.

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[walterleo]

Hi friends:

The case is open since 2009 so some time more is not a problem. Besides I don't try to blame somebody, as it is easy in flite simulation to overlook that. As most of us are or were not airline pilots so the use of a FD is not the rule. In my basic real flight training the use of the FD was not an issue.

So, I have looked a little on some of the AFG panels and even the French Airforce Caravelle III has an old-style ADI:



and it has the AP and the separate FD controller.



The Caravelle VIR has a newer ADI and FD controller



working as FD not as ILS indicator:



clearly visible the command to intercept the glide slope even with the ILS glide slope hand a little above:



The aircraft.cfg in both cases changed according to my post.

Kind regards

Walter

[Mike Monce - HJG]

George would be a better authority, however it's my impression that the FD in FS9 is basically useless for the most part. I never turn it on if that options is available in the panel. And I also heard from some of the old airline pilots I worked with at the museum that they didn't pay too much attention to the FD in real flying.

There's a very good youtuber I follow, Greg Mink, (premier1driver) who is a former F16 pilot now flying his own Beech Premier for business and pleasure. I believe he once remarked that he also ignores the FD but uses the small vector symbol as it gives a much more accurate instant indication of the flight path direction. Of course, that aid is not available in non-glass panels and even in some glass ones.

Mike

[walterleo]

Hi Mike:

There are FD in FS9 and other FD. E.G. the HJG DC 10 FD works very well, the DM Comet IV one is very precise but difficult to read for the pitch command.

Kind regards

Walter