INS

[stumpy]

Hiii folks!!!!

This is a new account... my old one disapeared!!! LOL

Well, i installed the DC-8-50 with INS, also the L-1011 (also has INS).

I have FSPUIC registred and all stuff... bla blá blá.

To start the flight i always load the little cessna first and then cut engine, batteries and avionics and change the aircraft for the desired one.

With the Boeing 707 everything is fine, but with DC-8 and L1011, after loading the aircraft still with battery and avionics off, the INS unit is allready on and with the current postion set and in NAV mode.

If you try to bring it to standby mode or OFF mode it doesn't work, the button doesn't turn, only to allign and NAV.

If you bring it to allign position, the green light cames on imediately.

What is wrong here... what did i miss???

I also use the 747-200 with carousel IV and i have no problem with that, and also with your Boeing 707, only the DC-8 and 1011 is strange.

Can anyone help?

Cheers ;D

Luis

[Dan K. Hansen]

If you see the very first post in this thread, there is a reference to Georges very fine B707 manual (1970) which also contains a description of the INS functionality...

From this Manual (which can be downloaded from the Boeing Panel page) I quote:

When moving between OFF/STBY and ALIGN/NAV, or to/from ATT mode, the mouse button must be held down for about 2 seconds before the switch moves. This simulates pulling the knob above its mechanical stops.

[stumpy]

hi

Thanks Dan, for your reply!

yeah, i had read that, perhaps the 2 seconds are not exactly to... are more 3 to 5... i was not holding enought time. But on 707 i had not that problem. Let's forget it... solved.

Cheers

Luis

[louross]

I've downloaded 2 DC8 INS panels, and reead the intructions on using the INS. However, I've obviously missed something, somewhere, because there is no "test button" to push to work thru the red warning lite. Are the DC8 INS panels ther correct ones, or do Ineed to donwload a more current INS model, or is it something else? Thanks, in advance,
louross.

[cap10jaf]

Jun 1, 2013 22:22:38 GMT louross said:

I've downloaded 2 DC8 INS panels, and reead the intructions on using the INS. However, I've obviously missed something, somewhere, because there is no "test button" to push to work thru the red warning lite. Are the DC8 INS panels ther correct ones, or do Ineed to donwload a more current INS model, or is it something else? Thanks, in advance,
louross.

Hello Guys,

I was about to ask the same question regarding the B727-200ADV panel. I want to learn INS set-up, but I can't find the "test button". Has anybody successfully used the INS in the 737?

Thank you,

GD

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

"IF" you're using "the correct panel version" with your HJG/VL B727-200 ADVC simulation (you should be using only the the B727-200 ADVC specific offering with these simulations) .... then .l.. you'l find INS instrumentation associated with both the INS/WX sub panel .... and also on the Ovehead sub panel too.

Try those. It "IS" there .... and it "DOES" work .... and is the same INS programmig that's represented in some of the HJG B707, DC8, as well as the HJG/VL L1011 simulations also.

PLEASE NOTE .... of the HJG/VL B727 simulations .... only the B727-200 ADVC and B727-200 ADVC RE SUPER 27 panels are INS equipped (the others aren't .... intentionally) .... and again .... one "MUST" use each of these panels with their correct corresponding aircraft base pack files .... or .... problems can/will result.

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[cap10jaf]

Jan 5, 2014 20:53:47 GMT aerofoto - HJG Admin said:

"IF" you're using "the correct panel version" with your HJG/VL B727-200 ADVC simulation (you should be using only the the B727-200 ADVC specific offering with these simulations) .... then .l.. you'l find INS instrumentation associated with both the INS/WX sub panel .... and also on the Ovehead sub panel too.

Try those. It "IS" there .... and it "DOES" work .... and is the same INS programmig that's represented in some of the HJG B707, DC8, as well as the HJG/VL L1011 simulations also.

PLEASE NOTE .... of the HJG/VL B727 simulations .... only the B727-200 ADVC and B727-200 ADVC RE SUPER 27 panels are INS equipped (the others aren't .... intentionally) .... and again .... one "MUST" use each of these panels with their correct corresponding aircraft base pack files .... or .... problems can/will result.

Mark C
AKL/NZ

Greetings Mark,

My issue is the "test button" mentioned in the tutorial doesn't appear in either panel unless I'm dead blind! I just decided to continue through the tutorial anyways and found that the INS system does work as described. My second INS test flight allowed me to fly a Cargojet B727 from Bermuda to KEWR beyond VOR range and without GPS.

That was my goal. Mission accomplished.

Thanks,

GD

[Nathan Ford - HJG]

I know this is an old thread, but for those of you doing some research, the 'test" button is the centre of the "Auto-Man" selector. Click on that twice to get rid of the error.

Cheers,

Nathan

[nael95]

I have problem... everytime i align the ins, ALRT starts to flash!!! (Dc 10)

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

I´ll be something you (possibly quite innocently) misunderstanding/misprograming or otherwise not doing correctly.

I can´t advise re our INS (it´s the only feature of our simulations I´m not entirely familliar with) .... other than to say thge INS equippd with our DC-10 panels is, and functions, precisely the same as that fitted into each o our other aircraft type IMS equppd panels.

See if you can pick up what you´re doing wrong with the aid of Nathan´s following INS related tutorial video ....
tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/thread/8957/ins-tutorial

Mark C
BOG/CO

[George Carty - HJG]

The ALRT light should stop flashing once you have programmed in some waypoints and set a leg between two existing waypoints to navigate (with the aircraft's starting position being waypoint 0).

George

[Nathan Ford - HJG]

The ALRT button will also flash if you have moved the aircraft to a different location either since starting the sim or since you last used the plane. To clear this, click on the “test” button twice which is the knob that selects AUTO/MAN and is located on the bottom/middle of the unit (this is shown at 5:35 minutes on the tutorial video that Mark linked).

Nathan

[lmhariano]

Hi everyone. When I used the CIVA INS in FS9, I remember that, for flying direct to a waypoint, you could change your current leg to waypoint 0-x (where x is one of the 9 waypoints you want direct to). Also, with that (and having loaded the final destination coordinates), you could have a good estimation of the remaining distance to the destination.

In HJG's INS I can't find how to do this. Any ideas?

Please disregard all that above: I did a flight using the Tinmouse 732 with CIVA INS, and the same situation happens as in HJG. I don't know what was I thinking. I'm sorry.

In both, 0-x works for flying direct, but not for checking remaining distance. You'll have to add all leg distances on your own. All I miss now from CIVA is the keypad input and all is done for me

[ＲΞＴＲＯＬΛＤ]

Don't bite me for reviving an old thread but I also have a doubt regarding the INS present on HJG panels, It's simply out of curiosity not a problem per se.

So I noticed and am aware those systems indeed took their sweet time to align, something between 8 and 10 minutes I suppose? Anyway, the CIVA gauge has an average align time of 3 minutes whilst I've never had enough patience to determine how long the HJG gauge takes to be ready for action (Without the cheat of course). It certainly is in excess of 8 minutes as that was the longest I waited.

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

Don't bite me

Relax .... we only bite, and kick arse, "IF" peoples manner give us "just reason" for doing so .... in the interests of setting examples and upholding standards for everyone else. We don´t like and don´t take prode or pleasure doing so though .... under any circumstances .... and such situations are mercifully rare (here) .... but .... it "is" sometimes necessary


ANYWAY ....


It´s probably wrong to compare our/HJG´s/George CARTY´s INS with the CIVA version.

Although our is similar and does the same thing .... both are fundamentally different .... but .... our INS is calibrated to work in cojnction with the AP ´s featured in our panelk (those equipped with INS) whereas the CIVA version isn´t.

The time factor .... in egard to our INS being "alligned" once programed .... is quite normal, so far as I´m aware (in the R/W it´s about 30 minutes I believe), but, it´s perhaps best I let our Nathan FORD discuss this for you since he´s more familiar with it´s use than I am

Give him a couple of days to respond though .... as he may be our flying R/W at the moment

Mark C
BOG/CO