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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 21, 2012 7:44:17 GMT
I'm on "DIAL-UP" .... and these files (the !0R FREIGHTER base pack and the LAS texture) are accessible and download fine "for me".
Corruptions of files .... and in particular .... downloads being disconnected prior to downloading actually being complete can, and do, sometimes occur .... and can happen "ANYWHERE" .... for whatever network reason might apply .... BUT .... even on "dial-up" I've never known this to occur more than twice/consecutively and in regard to the same file/download.
The complete base pack for the CARAVELLE 10R FREIGHTER should be of approximately 908 KB in size .... AND .... the complete LAS texture file for it should be of apparoximate 4.67 MB. Anything less than these sizes and one can assume one's then got incomplete/corrupted files.
This/your situation is, unfortuately, out of the realms of HJG's control.
Mark C
AKL/NZ
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2012 2:18:51 GMT
Is cargo version of Caravelle the world's first cargo jet plane? If not, what is world's first cargo jet plane please?
Thanks,
Aharon
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 22, 2012 4:18:53 GMT
"NO" .... I think you'll find that the CARAVELLE 10R FREIGHTER (lke the 6R FREIGHTER also) was an after-market/late-in-life modification/conversion.
Meaning .... thos few of these aircraft that were modified (I believe some of them were actually unauthorized conversions .... i.e. not overseen by the French or their agencies) were converted at a much later stage of their career and after a life of having been used to haul PAX over many years previously.
In short .... the CARAVELLE 10R/10B1 was "basically" a fanjet (JT9D) powered version of the preceeding 6R .... and was intended to be a "CHEAPER" option for CARAVEKLLE operators whom could not afford the much more expensive and highly modified CARAVELLE 11 and SUPER 12 aircraft.
I therefore think/suspect .... though I do also stand to be corrected here (Esa might like to correct me on this) .... but .... those very few CARAVELLE 10R FREIGHTER conversions might, similarly, have been undertaken for/by those carriers which couldn't afford (or were otherwise reluctant) to invest in more conventional dedicated jetliner freighters or later conversions of originally PAX configured aircraft.
I think you'll find that the DC8-50F .... and both the B707-320B SCD and B707-320C .... were the first "dedicated" jetliner freighters .... BUT THEN AGAIN .... any PAX configured jetliner can be used to haul "just freight only" in it's lower holds .... and in doing so it probably makes a heck of a lot more money than it does carrying PAX and their baggage along with a little freight only.
It's the carriage of "FREIGHT" that essentially pays for most services.
Mark C
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Post by walterleo on Nov 22, 2012 11:00:18 GMT
Hi Mark! Do you count under unauthorized conversions also this: "HK-2836 Caravelle 10R (msn. 211) Originally delivered to Finnair as "Kuopio." Also flew for Air Charter and EAS - Europe Aero Service as F-GDFZ before being sold to SEC Colombia as HK-3836 and LAS - Lineas Aereas Suramericanas as HK-3836X, going on to serve with the Fuerza Aerea Mexicana, serial 10506. This aircraft was impounded at MEX, again wearing serial HK-3836. She was eventually moved and re-assembled for visitor display inside Parque Aviacuatico Los Manantiales, Jilotepec-Ixtlahuaca Highway at km 39. Sistership Fuerza Aerea Mexicana, serial 10507 (msn. 232) may have survived a number of years at a Mexican water park north of Mexico City, but is believed to have finally been scrapped in 2002." see Wikipedia Kind regards Walter  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2012 14:53:16 GMT
Thanks, Mark for information.
Regards,
Aharon
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 22, 2012 21:37:55 GMT
It's just something I read .... somewhere .... Walter. THat it, aparently applied to some "very late" CARAVELLE modifications/conversions .... well into the 1990's as I recall. SUD EST had long since been merged into AEROSPATIALE .... and then AIRBUS (as I understand) .... and these parties, apparently, didn't want to know about CARAVELLE's by such/this late stage .... only favouring selling "NEW/MODERN" aircraft .... and whatever agency had been set up, officially, to cater for the CARAVELLE's was, by this late stage, probably no longer doing so. I, perhaps, should have used the term "UNOFFICIAL CONVERSIONS/MODIFICATIONS" rather than "unauthorized .... since these some of these few "very late" conversions were undertaken by otherwise "very competent agencies .... and .... some conrolling/regulatory body/authority, somewhere down the chain, has, obviously, certified/authorised such conversions in the absence of official representation. No operators can just do anything it wants/likes with any aircraft type without someone giving it a seal of approval .... of course  Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by walterleo on Nov 23, 2012 9:41:48 GMT
It's just something I read .... somewhere .... Walter. THat it, aparently applied to some "very late" CARAVELLE modifications/conversions .... well into the 1990's as I recall. SUD EST had long since been merged into AEROSPATIALE .... and then AIRBUS (as I understand) .... and these parties, apparently, didn't want to know about CARAVELLE's by such/this late stage .... only favouring selling "NEW/MODERN" aircraft .... and whatever agency had been set up, officially, to cater for the CARAVELLE's was, by this late stage, probably no longer doing so. I, perhaps, should have used the term "UNOFFICIAL CONVERSIONS/MODIFICATIONS" rather than "unauthorized .... since these some of these few "very late" conversions were undertaken by otherwise "very competent agencies .... and .... some conrolling/regulatory body/authority, somewhere down the chain, has, obviously, certified/authorised such conversions in the absence of official representation. No operators can just do anything it wants/likes with any aircraft type without someone giving it a seal of approval .... of course Mark C AKL/NZ Hi Mark: I was kidding about the "conversions" the narcos first did to these wonderful airplanes and after wards the pressing of them into military service. But besides that would be wonderful if somebody would consider a repaint of these two Caravelles: www.flugzeugbilder.de/show.php?id=1095614Kind regards Walter |
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Post by deltalima on Nov 23, 2012 17:19:59 GMT
Hello Mark,
As per your email that you sent requesting I post here ...
Files were received, installed - exact same results. I really do appreciate the attempt to help, though - I really do. I never had any issues downloading the model or panels - it was just the Suramericana cargo repaint.
I'm curious if anyone else has recently downloaded this repaint - am I the only one who gets an incomplete file archive?? It makes me wonder if originally, the file was good, and that's what Mark et al are using - but the file now up on the server may be bunged up? If indeed, Mark, you sent me the exact file now on the server and you have recently installed it and it works fine for you and/or the others - then I have to just walk away from the repaint, everyone having tried their best.
Not a big deal, in the grand scheme of things, as the other repaints and packs I've gotten (so far) have all been superb - so I'm not at all disappointed. Just really would have enjoyed that particular one.
Anyway, thanks HJG!!
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 23, 2012 20:48:23 GMT
Danny My understanding is that you have been unable to download "a complete copy" of the LAS texture from this website. A multitude of network reasons might account for this .... but .... none of which HJG has any control over. The 2 files I sent you recently .... the CARAVELLE 10R/10B1 FREIGHTER Aircraft Base Pack, and the LINEAS AEREAS SURAMERICANAS COLOMBIA texture for it .... both came from my own personal stock of these files. I do maintain a complete library/inventory of "all/every HJG files", in another place, and right away from this server .... just in case !!!! NOW THEN .... I note that you state (above) as follows .... It's your "INSTALLED" reference .... in conjunction with your "EXACT SAME RESULTS" reference which I'm struggling with. Are you saying the texture file "I sent you" won't download completly either .... OR .... that you have downloaded, unzipped, and installed it successfully, but, now have another similar problem   On the basis of lightening never usually striking the same place more than once .... what you, appear, to be reporting is "QUITE ODD" I still think .... that if you are experiencing problems with any of these particular files .... then this "must be based around your own system/network". I have .... in just these last few moments .... successfully downloaded, and reinstalled, the very same file from this website (an on dial-up) .... and everything "working fine" for me .... "IN FS2004"Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by deltalima on Nov 23, 2012 21:45:40 GMT
Hi Alan,
All I'm saying is that I'm getting the same error. I try and copy over the texture folder over to the desktop, and all that copies is a few files - before the copying times out. This has nothing to do with the sim - it's a matter of the files not extracting out of the folder - either to a new folder, dragging the texture folder out of the zip, etc.
Having confirmed that you sent me files separate from the ones on the server, that disproves my theory that maybe they were corrupted recently, and why no one else over the last little while reported the issue. I have no issue with any other HJG file - so in the absence of a rational explanation, I'll just leave it alone - an unexplained gremlin.
Many thanks for trying to help, though!
Daniel
ps - I may try reinstalling winzip ... all I can think of at this point.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 23, 2012 21:53:46 GMT
WHO THE HELL IS ALAN ?  ;D That could be a good place to start. As I mentioned above .... I'm 99.999% sure your particular exprience is network/system/compenent/configuration based. I do hope you can sort it out though .... because it "IS" a nice simulation .... as are all of the CARAVELLE's. They've got a "darned nice feel" to them  Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by deltalima on Nov 23, 2012 22:51:12 GMT
Sorry Bob! LOL - sorry - been sick the last few days - not all cylinders are firing. I think because I see your signature so often just as a glance, the AKL/NZ sticks in my mind as "Alan". Succes - at least from the standpoint of the files. Reinstalling 7zip and opening from it did the trick. For some reason, the standard windows compression utility (that just opens in a new folder window) still won't open the archive - and that's how I open all zips. Normally, I only use 7zip for the more arcane file types like .rar. etc. So a bit of work on figuring that out - but it looks like I'm sorted. Thanks again!! |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 24, 2012 3:52:53 GMT
That's "FINE" Fred ;D That's even "BETTER STILL" Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by deltalima on Nov 24, 2012 4:08:16 GMT
And you're right Jim, it's a great model and repaint combo. A keeper for sure. Best regards, Alan |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 24, 2012 4:32:42 GMT
"GOOD" to know you're satisfied John ;D Mark C AKL/NZ & BOG/CO |
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