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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on May 15, 2011 17:42:55 GMT
OH NO .... In between everything else I´ve been personally involved in, or otherwise seen personally too, I´ve just spent a lifetime reading/studying a lot .... and then just remembering it all ;D Mark C BOG/COL
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Post by Peter Liddell - HJG Admin on May 16, 2011 15:32:59 GMT
And whilst on the subject of PAN AM too .... and I stand to be corrected here (in what I´m about to say) .... BUT .... I think at least 1, or more, of the very early EASTERN operated B747-100´s (I´m talking very early 1970´s here and around the time when the B747 first entered commercial service) carried "PA" suffixed registrations and a PAN AM type fuselage cheatline .... suggesting these particular aircraft were possibly leased from PAN AM at the time. I´m sure I´ve seen a photo/postcard to this effect .... but unfortunatately .... don´t have that particular reference with me in order to to be able to illustrate the point. If I can dig up any other information to support this then I will post it here later. Mark C BOG/CO I'll save ya the looking up troubles... Eastern leased 3 different 747-100s from PA at different times to cover for the delayed L1011 on peak routes (JFK-MIA-SJU and JFK-SJU mostly, also ): N731PA 121 19637/4 731 01/71 04/71 LF PA, also LF PA 11/71-04/72 N735PA 121 19642/10 735 11/70 04/72 LF PA N737PA 121 19644/13 737 01/71 05/72 LF PA Only N731PA got the "quick paint job" scheme with the PAA cheatline and EA wings logo on the tail in 1971, 735 and 737 got a full hockey stick, as did 731 when it returned in 72. EA had it's own 747-125s ordered, but sold them prior to final assembly to TWA in favor of better L1011 slots and cash. One little tidbit here, one of those EA to TWA birds was N93119, the "TWA800" aircraft The 2nd set of EA 747s, the 747-238Bs from QANTAS: N371EA 238B 20012/171 VH-EBD NTU; (was painted in full EA c/s in Australia) N372EA 238B 20011/162 VH-EBC NTU Chances are that N372EA would of been done in a metal scheme as it was stripped when the "order" was canceled, though that is not confirmed. Were dropped when EA lost MIA-London to Air Florida. When Air Florida folded later EA bought the routes and got the 3 Dc-10s from Alitalia: N390EA 30 47862/88 390 I-DYNE 01/86 10/86 N391EA 30 47866/149 391 I-DYNB 06/85 09/90 N392EA 30 47867/178 392 I-DYNC 11/85 09/90
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2011 15:41:13 GMT
Peter, Thanks for education!!!! Interesting!!! Baffled me how a small airline Air Florida would win such prestigious KMIA to Heathrow route? ? I suspected political bribes and kickbacks!!!! Am I right or wrong? Aharon
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Post by Peter Liddell - HJG Admin on May 16, 2011 15:43:23 GMT
Well it was Gatwick not Heathrow, and the story isn't official but the unofficial reason is EA was going to be awarded MIA-LGW but pushed back for MIA-LHR instead, and the British gave it to Air Florida instead who were happy with LGW and were the only other bidder in the final phase of the process.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on May 16, 2011 16:50:52 GMT
Interesting additional info Peter .... "THANKS" Mark C BOG/CO
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on May 25, 2011 12:56:23 GMT
Aharon .... can you direct me to where you got that particulae EASTERN AIR LINES B747-200B texture (N371EA) above ? I presume that texture is for the POSKY/PFS B747-200B model. A file name .... and website address would be helpful !I can´t seem to locate this particular texture at any of the most common FS website/libraries which I search .... unless I´m just missing it each time and for whatever silly reason ;D Mark C BOG/COL
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2011 14:07:10 GMT
Mark, The main reason why you cannot find that is it is in Virtual Eastern airline fleet accessible by password only. It is painted by Peter Lindell the current owner of that VA. Would you like me to ask Peter Lindell to give you that livery for your own flying pleasure? I just swapped engines:) It is fictional livery painted by Peter Lindell. Yes it is based on POSKY's 747-200B-PW-JT9D-7R4G2 using base model OS742V4_JT9D.mdl and 747-200B-PW-JT9D-7R4G2.air However, I used different 742 base model because I have Wardair and CP liveries for that and I just added Peter Lindell's fictional Eastern livery to that to save hard disk space. Aharon
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on May 25, 2011 14:27:04 GMT
Thanks Aharon ! I am currently in communicaton with Peter. I didn´t know that particular texture was his own reproduction though. Now that I know precisely what the lay of the land is .... I´ll ask Peter if I may have a copy of his base texture when I nect communicate with him. Thanks again Aharon ! I´m sending you a PM too BTW Mark C BOG/COL
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2011 18:58:17 GMT
Mark, Got your PM and replied: Aharon
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Post by Dan K. Hansen on May 25, 2011 20:57:40 GMT
If you two communicate by PM, why do you involve us by telling ... ?
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on May 25, 2011 21:40:22 GMT
I don´t believe it requires a similar public query ;D .... but .... I´ll give you an explanation since you raise it .... "For my part at least" .... I always advise someone (at the end of a posting) whenever a PM is waiting for them, but, only in cases (as was the case today) when it is in relation to something I might require an "URGENT" response to. That is simply intended to avoid any possibility of that person possibly missing the fact a PM is indeed waiting for them .... (we´ve all done it). This has always been, and will remain, my own policy in such cases. Of course .... I have got no control over whether or not the "other party" might want to respond (like this). That is entirely over to them .... even though I suppose such a response from them might beunnecessary .... but .... at the end of the day I see no harm in it, at all, and more-so if someone else might benefit from what might have been replied Mark C BOG/COL
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Post by Peter Liddell - HJG Admin on May 26, 2011 13:54:44 GMT
Hi all, Mark im having some email problems, but here's the link: www.virtualeastern.com/fleet/Eastern_747_Poskyv4.zipIncludes all the PAA lease versions, plus N371EA as painted and N372EA as metal hockeystick (fictional). I may still have the multi-layers originals and I'm willing to share those with you are well, just PM me since I can't reply to emails at the moment.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on May 26, 2011 21:37:31 GMT
Thank you very much for doing "THIS" Peter .... for posting that link I apprediate that as I´m sure others will too The only thing I do request .... of people accessig this link which Peter has kindly provided here .... is to please "RESPECT" what he has provided here because it´s not generally available elsewhere .... to my knowledge. Thanks once again Peter ! I´ve sent you a PM too BTW Mark C
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Post by Tony Madge - HJG on May 29, 2011 8:44:33 GMT
The Il-62 used a tail stand when parked quite a lot recall seeing one in use at heathrow a few years back
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Post by Tony Madge - HJG on May 29, 2011 10:31:21 GMT
Non HJG screenshots please on this board only Thanks Tony
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