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Post by almguy1 on Aug 3, 2011 22:27:40 GMT
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Post by hitperson on Aug 4, 2011 1:53:45 GMT
that is surreal.
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Post by Herman on Aug 4, 2011 3:24:36 GMT
Nice screenshots Dave,....but even a humpback whale looks better than an A380.... ;D ;D ;D
Herman
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Aug 4, 2011 7:27:18 GMT
I'm not an AIRBUS fan .... by any stretch of the imagination .... BUT .... I reckon the A380 does look "a lot better" when viewed "in person".
Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by Tony Madge - HJG on Aug 4, 2011 9:34:44 GMT
Agreed, when it did a fly past at BHX it was huge and drew thousands to see it, then it flew the Emirates service to celebrate their new lounge at the airport, again thousands watched the first A380 to fly passengers in the AUK outside of Heathrow. It amazed me at how easy with a full ish load it coped with the 8000ft runway! You dont appreciate its size until it parks next to a 767 then you realise how huge the thing is!
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Post by hitperson on Aug 4, 2011 10:54:01 GMT
Tony, where in the UK does the A380 fly from then??
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Aug 4, 2011 11:14:46 GMT
Tell ya wot .... we get'em (A380's) "DAILY" into AKL/NZAA .... in the form of EK/EMIRATES .... whom I think are taking delivery of one new aircraft of this type per month over the next 5 years or so .... or it might even be monthly over a longer period that that "NICE" to have "THAT SORT OF CASH" ;D Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by garryrussell on Aug 4, 2011 12:01:08 GMT
I see them fly over several times on clear days and what always impresses me is the huge wing........there is so much area it's in believable, no doubt the reason they get off easily form BHX.
Emirates are having trouble operating to places like Germany
They can't fill the A.380's they have now with their own traffic let alone the 90 plus the fleet is planned for.
So they want to fill them up en-route but Lufthansa for one is objecting as they are trying to take a huge proportion of the German-US traffic without anything reciprocal.
The Arabs, in general are very restrictive to anyone going to their countries so the market will never be as big to those destinations as it might otherwise be, yet want complete freedom to carry as many pax as they can elsewhere where they are are no general restrictions.
The result is many A.380 service applications are being fought and for now refused.
This has put Europe in a dilemma as they are selling large aeroplanes to airlines yet trying to prevent excessive use of the same machines in the participating countries.
So maybe the Emirates order will never be fulfilled as their plans and the plans of countries they stage through vary somewhat.
TBH I can't see any airline operating that many certainly the UAE market alone can't support it
Garry
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Post by Tony Madge - HJG on Aug 4, 2011 15:31:41 GMT
They fly out of Manchester as well as Heathrow, I know they replaced one of the daily 777 flights. Birmingham have two daily 777-300 flights and they normally have high pax loads, there is talk of one of the daily flights being done by a 380, nothing confirmed yet.
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Post by almguy1 on Aug 4, 2011 17:43:00 GMT
Nice screenshots Dave,....but even a humpback whale looks better than an A380.... ;D ;D ;D Herman Thanks Herman yeah kinda like my Honda Element, but as ugly as she is I love her. Regards Dave
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Post by Herman on Aug 4, 2011 21:52:33 GMT
I suppose from an environmental point of view, one huge airplane carrying many people is more desirable than two airplanes, so I will need to accept that philosophy. ;D ;D ;
Herman
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Aug 4, 2011 22:50:59 GMT
I think most people whom admire the A380 .... are just impressed by what it is in terms of its size .... and also .... the philiosophy and technology which has brought it into existence.
I remember the same occured too when B747's first began entering airline service during the early 1970's .... particularly in relation to it, then, being "TOO BIG" etc stc etc.
But .... the market grew .... and as it did so did the B747's appeal with it all too .... and of clourse now they're "EVERYWHERE" and a part of just about "EVERY/MOST" major airline fleets around the world.
I feel there are paralells between criticism of the B747, way back then, and the A380 now .... so .... it'll be interesting to see what happens over the next 10 years, or so, in terms of development, marketing, and appeal of the "BIG BUS" among airlines of the world.
Probably one thing that won't ever change though .... in the minds of some .... is the fact that when the "BIG BUS" is compared with other heavy jetliner types, and even other AIRBUS types too, it's probably not the most beautiful/elegant looking of designs .... but again .... it "does" appear to look a whole better .... "in person" .... than it seems to appear in pictures.
Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by railrunner130 on Aug 5, 2011 0:18:57 GMT
The last shot should show the 380 coming back for an engine change! Apparently, they've had some serious engine issues with it.
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Post by Dan K. Hansen on Aug 5, 2011 9:15:27 GMT
I'm curious to see how a possible future triple-decker would look like, or maybe the double-decker will be enough?
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Aug 5, 2011 20:47:01 GMT
Given the natural progression of things .... that may well happen .... one day in the future .... but .... I very much doubt that will be in my/our lifetime.
There has been issues .... "YES" .... and none probably more serious than that which occurred to QANTAS recently .... BUT .... it's a big new engine and I think even the most stringent testing programs one can devise might not reveal everything at first (HELL .... we see that here at HJG .... and in FS generally). When the B747 first entered commercial service during the very early 1970's with its .... what was then "big new engines" .... engine problems were experienced on these aircraft too and were eventually resolved as time progressed and the technology became better undrstood.
I suspect the A380 .... like any modern new jetliner type .... will suffer its fair share of introductory hassells, but, will evolve, in time, to become a very good aircraft for those airlines which have a need for what it can do/achieve .... and it will likely further improve too as time and the development of these new aircraft progresses too.
Again .... there are a lot of introductory paralells between the B747 and A380.
I'm not saying they are the same paralells .... just that there "are" paralells .... which do "seem" to be similar .... ranfging from criticizing the aircrafts size to technically related issues.
All of that happened with the B747 .... and .... with the B707 and DC8 which preceeded it as well.
Mark C AKL/NZ
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