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Post by BillA on Sept 8, 2011 19:11:07 GMT
Hi, been awhile since I posted here, but HJG think about making a list similar to which panel or sound goes its appropriate set, well, how about which livery textures go to a certain DC-9 base pack. I guess it could be added to the texture description on the dedicated download link. For example, if I download the ADRIA Airways Dc-9-30 paint, do I use the:
Version JT8D-7 v1.13
Version JT8D-9 v1.13
Version JT8D-11 v1.13
Version JT8D-15 v1.13
or
Version JT8D-17 v1.13
I know this would be alot of work, but just a thought.
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Post by botamern on Sept 8, 2011 20:04:03 GMT
I can't speak for the other painters, but I tried to include a note in all my DC-9 "add to aircraft.cfg" text files that stated what engine version should be used.
Nick
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Sept 8, 2011 21:00:46 GMT
Muy buernaos dias Bill !  I've not done this with any of the DC9 textures I've processed .... and so far as I'm aware .... nobody else has either .... BUT .... I have done this with regard to CARAVELLE texture/model/ panel combinations. NOW .... TO GET BACK ON COURSE AGAIN  I actually covered this (though simply) in my DC9 PANEL INSTALLATION & HANDLING NOTES as follows .... In so far as texture/model/engine type configurations are concerned we essentially leave that choice/selection is up to the End User .... based on the above quoted guide. If one wants authentic aircraft type/airline livery/engine type combinations then these "ARE" possible .... because "EVERYTHING" that's required has been provided, but, it does require reseasrch on the part of the end user .... maybe be aided by a DC9 PRODUCTION LIST (some of which do state precisely what powerplants are fitted to each individual aircraft), or, Terry WADDINGTON's great book/DC9 history which I recommended above .... and which I believe is still procurable. This book "DOES" state what particular engine type each aircraft was built and delivered with .... and in most cases these remained the same throughout each aircraft operational history, BUT, there are also any number of instances where these aircraft have since been upgraded (most JT8D-1 deliverede aircraft were later upgraded to D7's for instance) and which makes things "a little bit more difficult". If you, Bill, or anyone else too .... were to ask, on this forum, precisely what engine type base pack and panel should be used with each aircraft texture .... then I don't mind trying to provide that sort of information because I do have most of it at my fingertips. All I need from th subscriber is the following information .... - Aircraft type/series
- Airline livery
- Aircraft registration (ESSENTIAL) Any such information I do provide will only be based on what engine types these aircrft were "originally built delivered with" though. Offer's there anyway ! Mark C AKL/NZ Part of the problem here, Bill, is that a particular DC9 might have been built and delivered with a specic |
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Post by BillA on Sept 8, 2011 22:39:21 GMT
thanks Mark and Nick for the reply. I will research and see which ones operated certain engine variants.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Sept 8, 2011 22:47:03 GMT
Just get back to me with a list .... if you need to Bill. I don't mind helping you out ! Con mucho gusto amigo ! Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by BillA on Sept 9, 2011 2:34:43 GMT
Thanks Mark, I know this is off the topic, however Ive been playing with the contact settings for the DC-9 nose gear. I have the nose gear height set to what I think is a correct level, but once I power up the plane's engines, the nose wheel sink in quite a bit so that the gear doors are covering the top part of the wheel. I think the top part of the nose wheel should be a bit lower from the doors. I dont get what I need to adjust. I adjusted the number under contact point.0 under "8" which made the gear better when standing there with engines off. jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7150935&nseq=26jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7119159&nseq=56jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7115539&nseq=63any advice amigo? |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Sept 9, 2011 3:57:27 GMT
I remembr you (I think it was you) raised this .... or a similar query .... shortly after we first released the DC9 SERIES.
If I remember correctly .... that thread became somewhat inconclusive because I couldn't seem to replicate your problem .... with the DC9-10 as I recall.
The best advice I can give you is ....
Check that you're not overweight to start with. All of our DC9's .... and most of our other aircraft too .... do, intentionally, load into FS with a modest overload. The End User is expected to note the varying MGTOW's for each DC9 ersion (use my services notes for this if not the FUEL & PAYLOAD adjustment page within FS) .... and then adjust either fuel loading (preferrably) or payload .... or "both" .... in order to set each aircraft version at, near, or below its certified MGTOW. Adjust the fuel quantities (in each tank) according my my stated values, for each DC9 version , which appear within the BASIC FLYING GUIDES at the end of my DC9 PANEL INSTALLATION & HANDLING NOTES posting. I don't think it's a CP related issue .... because we were all exceptionally careful with those right from the very beginning and nobody else seems to have reportted a similar issue .... to date.
Mark C
AKL/NZ
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Sept 9, 2011 5:04:07 GMT
Another thing too .... These sorts of issues (landing gear sinkinking into scenery) can "sometimes" arise with/be caused by some addon airport sceneries. Here's what I'm seeing with each of the 5 "basic" classes of DC9 aircraft which we offer here .... DC9-10 DC9-20 DC9-30 DC9-40 DC9-50 All of these images were made with absolutely no aircraft weight adjustment .... i.e. each aircraft has, purposely, been loaded "heavy" into FS. What's seen here is also pretty much how each aircraft remains seen .... in terms of both ground posture and CP's .... once each aircraft is on the roll. All of these images were shot using default (not addon) FS2004 scenery airports. I'm pretty sure everything's OK there Bill .... at least it is from my standpoint ! Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by Mike Monce - HJG on Sept 9, 2011 12:58:06 GMT
I'm not at home now, so I don't have access to the SDK... I have to reference it every time I adjust CP's just to make sure I know which parameter is which in that long string of numbers Anyway, the symptom Bill describes has to do with the strut stiffness parameter rather than strut length. BUT watchout! the two parameters interact, so adjusting one will affect the other. IIRC, Mark and I had those working fairly well on the -9s And as Mark, says, if you have not adjusted the weight back down to at least MGTOW, then I'm not surprised the strut will compress when the plane begins to accelerate... actually it's fairly realistic. Mike |
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Post by BillA on Sept 9, 2011 13:30:20 GMT
thanks for checking, I tried the DC-9 with very minimal fuel, just enough fuel to start engines and taxi around a bit, and the nose wheel still compressed almost all the way down where the wheel would sink under the doors a bit just when pushing the throttles a bit. there has to be a setting on the contact points for the it not to compress to much.
Thanks again for checking on this issue
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Post by Dan K. Hansen on Sept 9, 2011 17:31:57 GMT
Looking at Mark's pictures the DC9-50 does seem to have a flat nosewheel tire ....
which version are you driving Bill?
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Post by BillA on Sept 9, 2011 18:05:18 GMT
Hi Dan, I have the latest version just downloaded 2 days ago. If you notice Marks pics, the Dc-9-10 nose wheel height to the bottom of the gear door is about right, however when looking at his Dc-9-30 (most noticeable) and even the 40 and 50 series, you can see the top part of the wheel is indeed covered by the door, and almost starts to cover part of the nose wheel hub. I know I might be really picky on that, but its an observation.
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Post by Dan K. Hansen on Sept 9, 2011 18:11:34 GMT
That's what I meant ;-) which of the series are you flying? Not the fileversion Marks screenies do show a tendency to nosewheel-dipping ... most profound as you have noticed yourself the dash-50. where both the strut seems compressed fully, and the wheel sinks into the ground. |
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Post by BillA on Sept 9, 2011 18:42:38 GMT
the series I fly the most is the 30, but I fly the 10 quite a bit too
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Sept 9, 2011 20:28:54 GMT
I acknowledge that the DC9-50 does, indeed, seem to sit a bit more heavily on it's NG than all of the others .... but remember also .... "none of my recommended weight adjustments have been applied to any of the aircraft featured in these visual tests/checks" .... and DC9's, like DC8's, do have a natural and slight "forward canter".
I wanted to make an "honest presentation" of how each looks/sits when loading "HEAVY" into FS.
Mark C
AKL/NZ
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