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Post by gus on May 14, 2012 20:53:26 GMT
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Post by bluestar on May 14, 2012 23:58:53 GMT
I remember the World B727 from when I was learning my trade based/flying out of Da Nang in 1971-72. It made a couple runs a day up and down the coast to Saigon. I remember this back when it happened. I was not surprised by the actions of the RVN. BS
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2012 18:02:02 GMT
quick question, where did 727 loaded with 300 passengers fly to after escaping from Saigon?
Aharon
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on May 21, 2012 21:03:17 GMT
It flew from Da Nang .... where it was, apparently, damaged on departure .... to Saigon.
I'll be back ASAP with more information .... "IF I CAN FIND IT"
Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on May 21, 2012 22:01:10 GMT
As I mentioned above .... the famously overloaded flight, apparently, operated between Da Nang and Saigon .... but .... the aircraft was attacked, and damaged, on departure from Da Nang and flew to Saigon with both its gear and T/O flaps extended. This was apparently the last flight out of Da Nang .... not to be confused with Pan AM's last light out of Saigon of Hollywood fame .... personally I think this WORLD AIRWAYS flight might have made for a much better movie than the PAN AM evacuation. I think most evacuation flights from Saigon were routed through Manila/Philippines .... I know the USAF C5A GALAXY and C141 STARLIFTERS flying the "BABY LIFT OPERATION" were. ANYWAY .... regarding this famous WORLD AIRWAYS B727 flight/incident. One source states as follows .... Whilst another source states as follows .... I think the aircraft was B727-173C N692WA .... and "IF SO" .... then it's operational history appears to be as follows .... B727-173C N692WA C/N # 19506 L/N # 442 3X P&W JT8D fanjet engines
First flight August 4th 1967
First delivered to WORLD AIRWAYS (N692WA) August 8th 1967
Leased to JAPAN AIR LINES (N692WA) August 8th 1969
WORLD AIRWAYS (N692WA) July 11th 1970
BRANIFF INTERNATIONAL AIRWAYS (N692WA) April 6th 1972 .... "available at HJG, Painted by Tom LE BLANC. See B727-100C/F/QC downloads page.
WORLD AIRWAYS (N692WA) June 7th 1973
Leased to AIR ALGERIE (N692WA) November 1975
WORLD AIRWAYS (N692WA) January 1976
Leased to AIR MALTA (N692WA) April 1976
WORLD AIRWAYS (N692WA) September 1976
Leased to YEMENIA - YEMEN AIRWAYS (N692WA) December 1976
WORLD AIRWAYS (N692WA) January 1977
Leased to FAUCETT DEL PERU (OB-R-1145) February 10th 1977
WORLD AIRWAYS (N692WA) January 1977 August 1977
Sold to ALM ANTILLEAN AIRLINES (PJ-BOA "St Martin") October 30th 1977 .... "available at HJG, Painted by Tony MADGE. See B727-100C/F/QC downloads page.
Sold to GATEWAY AIRCRAFT LEASING (PJ-BOA) February 6th 1979
Leased to AVIATECA GUATEMALA (TG-AYA "Iximche") July 15th 1979
Sold to UNITED PARCEL SERVICE (N938UP) December 13th 1989
Sold to OVERSEAS PARTNERS LEASING (N938UP) December 12th 1990
Leased to UNITED PARCEL SERVICE (N938UP) December 12th 1990
Sold to UNITED PARCEL SERVICE (N938UP) March 31st 1994
Sold to STEWART INDUSTRIES INTERNATIONAL (N938UP) February 27th 2008
CURRENT STATUS = "stored at Roswell/New Mexico"An aircraft sbject as famous as this one apparently is .... " by virtue of the Da Nang/Saigion incident" .... and in WORLD AIRWAYS (N692WA) period livery too .... is probably begging to be painted and represented by HJG also .... subject to it first being appealing to one of our team members. "NO PROMISES" Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2012 22:25:39 GMT
Mark,
Thanks for interesting facts!! You just answered my question by saying that most evacuation flights were from Saigon to Manila.
Wondering how the crippled World Airways 727 managed to make out of South Vietnam to Manila with damaged flaps and landing gear??
Aharon
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2012 22:27:42 GMT
And I think this plane will wind up in museum because it holds world record of most passengers in single flight for 727.
Aharon
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on May 21, 2012 23:22:36 GMT
It'll always be remembered as "famous aircraft" (by those aware of it's background, which, unfortuately not everyone is .... including some scholars of aviation trivia too) .... BUT .... that famous incident alone isn't sufficient to justify the cost of the aircrafts preservation .... especially when a lot of aviation museums and air parks around the world are already either hard-pressed for exhibition space/room and/or financially just as hard-pressed in order to maintain, and retain, some of what they currently already exibit .... and especially when most old aircraft are still worth much more in "SCRAP" value than most people/organizations can afford or are willing to pay in order buy, preserve, and then exhibit them. And that, unfortunately, is the cold, hard, brutal, honest to God "TRUTH" Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by garryrussell on May 29, 2012 13:00:19 GMT
The "Miracle On The Hudson" Airbus A.320 has been preserved but that had sunk and nothing will be of any use now.
If It had force landed in some field or small inner city space and been damaged beyond repair despite everyone walking away, the airframe would have been parted out and scrapped.
We can't save everything just because of some real life incident, there is not the space or the money.
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Post by Alejandro on May 29, 2012 20:01:13 GMT
Sadly, some military / bussinesmen doesn't know a word about history. If you love the WWII bombers, you must know "The Dragon and his Tail". This plane survived the war and was about to be return to the U.S. to be preserved. But the officer at charge requested the plane to be retrofitted with the older rubber tires instead of the more reliable newer ones (for the time).
Once made the change, the plane started the take-off when a tire exploded and there was an accident. Instead of repairing the plane, it was decided to scrape it.
I seem to remember that the screppers tried to save the plane by putting it in the very last of the long file of retireds, but saddly they run out of excuses and had to demolish it.
At least there are restoring the third prototype of the Boeing 727-100, and Boeing uses to restore some of its historical birds, like the 707 (dash 80) and the 307
Thinking about it... it's difficult to find a "historic" civilian plane, except the prototipes... I'll say... the 747-236B City of Edinburgh who flow through a volcanic eruption on 24 June 1982... the Boeing 737-297 N73711 of Aloha Airlines... two or three who run out of fuel but landed ok..
any ideas?
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Post by Alejandro on May 29, 2012 20:13:31 GMT
If any of you wants to preserve the "Sneaky Snake", the 727-200 painted by Alexander Calder, I'm sorry to inform that you can see it exploding at the end of the movie Bad Boys (2000)
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