A couple of things...

[daaoud94]

Hi, yes I know I've already posted on this forum about my troubles with a couple of models (including the L-1011) however I have fixed those niggles and I'm happy to report everything is "A-OK". Well, that is until I downloaded the cockpit for the L-1011 200 (L-1011 RR-RB211-524B/B4 Panel) and realized that I couldn't see the ground, just the the sky. I did have the same problem with the 707's cockpit but that was easily overcome by simply holding down the "space" bar and moving the mouse such that I could see properly however this doesn't seem to work with the L-1011. I have tried to experiment with the zoom (holding down the "space" bar and rolling the little roller on the mouse to adjust the zoom) and I have found .78+/- to be adequate. What I am asking is: Is there anyway to change the setting such that I can see the ground out of the cockpit windows with the zoom fully out (IE 0.30)? I am using FSX. Thank you very much

[daaoud94]

The other "little thing" is that, despite the textures used, when ever the landing lights are on, the whole model seems to be covered in a million little dots. This only seems to be noticeable at night and only seems to occur when the landing lights are activated. Is there anything I can do to fix this?

kind Regards,

Daaoud94

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

I've never heard of any such problem/s .... in either case.

The L1011 panels we offer are all "A-1" .... and so are all of the textures we offer for each L1011 aircraft version too.

I couldn't see the ground, just the the sky

The only time I've ever ended up staring at the sky .... from panel view within FS .... is once when I developed trouble with the POV settings on my controller device and which occurred with a, then, non-HJG simulation. I'm not saying this is your trouble, but, it could be in your interests/the benefit of your enjoyment to ensure that the POV selection options on your controller device are all properly calibrated. Again .... there's no such known issue in regard to any of the L1011 panel options we offer (save for any possible corruption of these files during your downoading process .... it's rasre, but, it "CAN" happen) .... and "I'm happy/comfortable endorsing that".

In regard to your graphics observation/s .... it sounds, to me, as though you may have a card or driver issue to be resolved, but, I couldn't possibly elaborate further. Again .... this sort of situation is "completely unheard of".

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[daaoud94]

Quite. Well it seems that, once again, my downloading ability might have "downplayed" me. Would it be possible for you to elaborate on your troubles with your so called "POV" (forgive if I am mistaken I assume "POV" to means "Point Of View") and how I may go about calibrating the "POV" selection options on my controller. Aside from those little niggles I find your models to be of excellent quality and would like to commend you and the excellent folk behind these projects for your attention to detail, (which I gather is all too important in this world on Simulation!). Would it be possible to send you a photograph of said events which occurred during my time with the L-1011 as I'm not sure what to make of it. In my cumulative experience of 2 years and 348.56 hours of time spent on my simulator, I have never come across the events which I have previously described. I am, as you might understand, perplexed as to why your 707-320B "advanced" model works flawlessly in all conditions while the L-1011 doesn't. You are probably correct in saying there is something wrong on my end of the metaphoric "stick" and there may be issues to deal with in terms of my system (although I highly doubt an issue with the computer as it is only a year old and all the drivers for all the various things are up to date). Once again I thank you for your valuable advise, much obliged.

Yours faithfully,

Daaoud94

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

Would it be possible for you to elaborate on your troubles with your so called "POV" (forgive if I am mistaken I assume "POV" to means "Point Of View") and how I may go about calibrating the "POV" selection options on my controller.

I use a SAITEK X52 FLIGHT CONTROL SYSTEM .... with all sorts of POV (etc) buttons. In my own case it was just a matter of "first" recalibrating everything within the CONTROLLER DEVICE window of my WINDOWS XP OS .... and "secondly" recalibrating everything withing the similar CONTROLLER DEVICE recalibration options/window with FS .... and nothing more.

Some simulations can be a little more sensitive to such calibrations .... and .... something as little as an inadvertent "BUMP" can, sometimes, result in something being knocked "out of whack" .... AND .... controller devices don't live forever either

Of course I'm only speculating here, but, I still wouldn't mind betting your panel view issue may just be controller device calibration related

Would it be possible to send you a photograph of said events which occurred during my time with the L-1011 as I'm not sure what to make of it

Not much point in sending me, or posting, any image .... because it really/probably wouldn't tell me much/anything.

Unfortunately .... I feel .... your experience is just "one of those situations" which we/HJG have absolutely no control over, at all, and, we must in these situations rely upon the END USER to resolve for themselves .... or to seek professional hardware support in order to resolve.

Again .... I can only award our L1011 simulations clean/perfect virtual COA.

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[daaoud94]

With regards to the flight control system, I happen to use the old keyboard and mouse so though recalibration might work, I highly doubt it for this "rudimentary" kind of control. As for the L-1011, the aircraft is a beautiful piece of work and the issues are only minor so I reckon it would be alright to leave it as such and make no amendments. Seeing as though there aren't any similar issues floating about, I believe it to be a mistake on my part and I will at some point remove the L-1011 altogether and reinstall it. Hopefully that will "Iron out" any "creases" within. Once again thank you for the advice and I hope I won't have anymore things to trouble you with

Kind Regards,

Daaoud S

[daaoud94]

Impossible to land the 707 in FSX
« Thread Started on Dec 18, 2009, 8:00pm »
Hi,

just installed the 707-120B and the 707-320B as well as the panels.

When I appoach an airport, the panel is much too high and I cannot see anything outside, only the blue sky.

[daaoud94]

Good evening one and all. Above this message is a quote on this forum of someone else who had the same issue as I had with the cockpit of the L-1011 (except he had experienced this in a 707). one thing suggested was to use keys "control+q" and "control+shift+q"and, low and behold, the view changed such that I could see properly again!!! So now the L-1011 is perfect for flying.

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

When I appoach an airport, the panel is much too high and I cannot see anything outside, only the blue sky

Above this message is a quote on this forum of someone else who had the same issue as I had with the flight deck of the L-1011 (except he had experienced this in a 707).

There's actually no relationship between the 2

These are 2 different aircraft types .... 2 completely different FDE's .... and 2 completely different panels by 2 completely different authors whom use entirely different programming methodology too.

When I replied yesterday .... I actually understood you to mean you were seeing nothing but "SKY ONLY" .... with no panel view at all (I have seen that) .... and which is what prompted me to suggest controller device POV related recalibration as I mentioned.

Given what you've just posted .... I, now, understand you to mean you're seeing the panel", but, you're apparently experiencing difficulty seeing enough of the ground/RWY ahead of you through the main panel view and during approaches to landing.

Have I got that right ?

"IF SO" .... then this changes everything and I need to explain as follows ....

"IF" the AOA .... nose pitch attitude increases too much .... to the point of being impossible to see the ground/RWY during approaches to landing then that's usually an indication that the approach is being flown "too slowly" .... with insufficient flap and/or power being applied.

Flaps should be fully extended by at least 10 DME from any FS RWY threshold. This .... in conjunction with boosting the engine power, somewhat, to compensate for the increased flap/gear induced drag as well as maintaining a stable airspeed .... will aid reducing the AOA/bringing the nose pitch attitude down.

The simple FS rules are .... insufficient speed/power/flap combination during approaches to landing will result in the nose drifting "up" .... and .... too much speed/power/flap combination during approaches to landing will force the nose "down".

Another very important factor which also needs being borne-in-mind here ....

Aircraft like the L1011 TRISTAR, A300B, and DC10, "do" exhibit a naturally high AOA during approaches to landing .... real world. In FS this is so too .... and using 2D panels (like the ones we provide) this, can, present visibility problems "if the speed/power/flap combination isn't right" in conjunction with the aircrafts naturally high approach to landing attitude .... BUT .... in FS2004, at least, the seat elevation/horizon line may be raised and lowered, if necessary, by using SHIFT ENTER and SHIFT BACKSPACE keyboard commands.

I don't know if these same commands apply to FSX. I actually missed your FSX comment yesterday

With the speed/power/flap combination properly set .... this's the sort of view one should be seeing through the L1011 main panel/s ....


RR RB211-22B PANELS AND EARLIER L1011 VERSIONS





RR RB211-524B PANELS AND HEAVIER L1011 VERSIONS

simviation.com/hjg/panels/lockheed/l1011_tristar_panel_std_inst_rr_rb211-524b_v1.1.jpg [/img]



As can be seen .... there is definitely less foreground is visible in comparison with other aircraft panel views, but, what's seen here also represents a reasonably accurate view perspective for the L1011 .... using 2D (not VC) panels.

Several months ago I wrote an L1011 basic handing guide for someone on our forum. That person stated, later, that it aided him hugely. "IF I CAN FIND IT" .... then I'll also post it here too .... in the hope it may further assist anyone needing help .... because it discusses, more precisely, flying approsches to landing with the L1011's.

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[daaoud94]

"There's actually no relationship between the 2 These are 2 different aircraft types .... 2 completely different FDE's .... and 2 completely different panels by 2 completely different authors whom use entirely different programming methodology too."

What I was referring to was the issue the person had with his panel and that issue was exactly the same as mine. Changing the height of the captains chair (cntrl+q) remedied the issue and the view out of the flight deck window is now exactly as the pictures you just posted. My flying technique is also accurate because even when the L-1011 was on the ground, I still couldn't see anything aside from the sky so no issues there. Anyway, the issue is resolved now but thanks all the same

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

Again .... I missed your FSX comment the other day (got a lot on in terms of non-FS priorities at the moment) and automatically assumed you were FS2004 by vitue of the fact your query was posted on this, FS2004, SUPPORT section of our forums .... and I commented accordingly.

Knowing, now, that you're FSX (which I'm not) I'd have thought that the FSX specifc PANEL.CFG file, supplied with these panels, would have resolved this particular panel view issue.

Did you activate it .... or not ?

These panel files .... like all HJG files .... download ready for FS2004 use, but, some of our files require, and are supporte4d with, "FSX SPECIFIC" CFG data which needs to be prioritized/activated in liew of their default FS2004 versions.

FOLKS .... in future please ensure that all queries in regard to FSX useage are posted on our "FSX SUPPORT" forum page.

Doing this simply helps those, trying to assist, recognize more quickly what a particular issue might relate to .... particularly in the event of it being an FSX specific occurrence which is known .... and which was the case in this particular case.

All other SUPPORT forum pages are, really, intended for FS2004 support only.

ANYWAY .... he's obviously all-sorted-out now .... so .... I'll "re-title" this particular thread "in a manner that folk experiencing this particular issue might, in the future, more easily relate to it" should their need ever arise .... and .... I'll also then be move this thread up to the "FSX SUPPORT" forum page too (where it would have been best posted) sometime over the next couple of days.

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[daaoud94]

Ah, well I'm dreadfully sorry for the confusion. I assumed that the "Lockheed support page" would be of use to me because I was having trouble with the L-1011 and posted on this page. I thought this was appropriate regardless of simulator and I obviously was mistaken and again apologize. However, I would like to point out that there is no suggestion on either the page itself or in the main menu of this being a FS2004 predominant page (if there are any indications then forgive me I must have missed them .
In answer to your question regarding the "Panel.cfg", I did indeed activate the panel for FSX and I renamed the other cfg as "FS9.cfg" as per the readme instructions.

[Dan K. Hansen]

There is NOTHING wrong with posting your issues here .... and the view issues have nothing to do with being FSX or FS9 .... actually very VERY few issues is because of FSX/FS9 issues even though there (still) is a tendency to think that every small problem is "FSX-related" ... it usually isn't .... so please continue to use the Lockheed support section for support for L1011... and I would suggest that we (HJG) didn't made FSX the culprit everytime someone just mention that they are running FSX .....

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

OH it's not a problem "DAAOUD94" .... and it doesn't require an appology .... because, as I said before, I'd actually missed your earlier commenting that you were FSX

I'm still "curious" though as to whether or not you might have inocently mixed up those 2 PANEL.CFG files and therefore caused the issue .... by inadvertently loading the panel into FSX with the default CFG still activated.

It's very easily done

Just a couple of clarifications unconnected with your own querying .... and with respect .... ;D

I don't see that FSX is being made "the culprit", but, in regard to this particular issue I "do" recall (albeit belatedly) it was first reported in FSX some 20 months ago .... it doesn't happen at all in FS2004. In so much as "little issues" that can, and do, arise in regard to FSX useable files offered by HJG .... that's got to be expected when these files are essentially FS2004 portovers and aren't FSX native .... which is something I'm not prepared to ignore in the interests of "this community" being fully informed.

In respect of the FSX related queries being addressed of the FSX SUPPORT page request. That's simply consistent with what's been requested, and done, here in the past (and not just by my own insistence either) .... since the FSX "SUPPORT" page was first established.

However .... if "HWMBO" now directs otherwise .... then "so be it"

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[daaoud94]

Ah yes, thank you Dan very much, I'll keep the FSX part in mind for next time (although hopefully there won't be any trouble
Just to reaffirm Mark, I did indeed activate the "panel_fsx.cfg" accordingly as per the readme instructions. I am absolutely adamant that it is correct. Anyway the issue is only minor and the aircraft is in otherwise perfect shape. Again, much obliged with all the help.

Daaoud