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Post by hornit - HJG on Nov 5, 2013 15:38:25 GMT
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Post by rb211 on Nov 6, 2013 0:34:07 GMT
Hello everybody
I am new to the forums but have flown HJG birds for some time. I too was intrigued by this product and I broke down and purchased the aircraft. As previously mentioned the aircraft textures and modeling are quite good and show some fine detail. However I find The FDE to be a bit lacking. The -12 model in particular seems to have far more power than its real world companion. The autopilot is not the most friendly and has features that the real aircraft did not have. I also find the gauges to be far too modern for the time frame that these airplanes represented. Overall not a bad product but its needs some patching to truly shine. In my honest opinion I find the HJG DC8s to be superior and a heck of lot more fun to fly, plus there free.
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Post by Tony Madge - HJG on Nov 6, 2013 4:49:00 GMT
Hi Rb211 (I like that name as RR are quite close to where I live Yes I agree the guys have put a lot of work into the DC8 FDE to make each model as good as possible, plus they get updated. We cover every variant so all models have their own FDE. Thanks for the nice words
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Post by Dan K. Hansen on Nov 6, 2013 8:48:14 GMT
I might just add... somewhere along the lines is mentioned "... finally a DC-8 for FSX..." Well, Dee's DC-8's, even though they are very old, works excellent in FSX ... so this "finally" is a bit strange to me :-)
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 6, 2013 20:52:27 GMT
It´s all about "MAKING MONEY" .... I guess JF/commercial developer + new product/DC8 = potentially increased/more revenue. JF did the same in respect of the COMET 4 too (and both the TRIDENT and VC10 as well .... I think) .... and "long after" the superb DMFS freeware COMET 3/3B/4/4B/C series (complete with a VC and which, I understand, is both FSX and FS2004 compatible) in this particular line of aircraft simulations had already been publicly available. Personally .... I think one would be "HARD PRESSED" in order to find a better COMET (or TRIDENT .... or VC10) simulation than that already provided by DMFS .... and which, like all HJG products too, is 100% "FREE". SO YEAH .... given that the challenges promoted by some "FREEWARE" are now as "good/strong" as we know them to be (and despite the fact that some payware "does" still offer some nice features too) I suppose it "can" make one ponder as to why a payware developer might bother trying .... apart from (a) meeting the demands of that portion of the FS community that don´t like, trust, or even know about "FREEWARE" (and which must be very few by now .... surely) .... and/or (b) the prospect of their "MAKING JUST A WEE BIT MORE MONEY" too (as I started out by saying) .... given that JF "DO", already, offer quite an extensive line of both "PAYWARE" flight and rail (etc) simulations and which they´re also constantly expanding. Mark C BOG/CO
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Post by Falcon on Nov 7, 2013 14:52:39 GMT
[ Dee's DC-8's, even though they are very old, works excellent in FSX]
I'm a FSX user and I must agree with Dan. HJG's DC-8's are very good thanks to Dee. I have tried several paywares and the FDE is nothing like HJG's. Falcon
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 7, 2013 15:53:11 GMT
Just one minor detail I should, perhaps, correct among those comments posted earlier within this particular thread .... The HJG DC8 FDE´s (for both FS2004 and FSX) are "reasonably good", but, some of these aren´t as perfect/good as HJG would like .... or even as good as those for most other mor recently HJG offered simulations either for that matter. PLEASE REMEMBER .... the HJG DC8 FDE´s have actually received the "very least" attention/upgrading among those for all other simulations currently represented by HJG. In fact the only attention these DC8 FDE´s have received, since 2006, is that which was considered the necessary "bare essentials" in order to ensure panel/guage compatibility using each of the currently offered HJG DC8 2D panels .... which were last upgraded during around 2007/8 I think it was. As I mentioned recently within another unrelated DC8 forum thread .... An HJG DC8 FDE upgrade has been "in progress" for quite some time and "IS" still being attended to .... as is convenient with both myself and my HJG colleague assisting me .... and this "WILL" be released "in due course". Just how much longer is implied by "due course" .... I´m simply not prepared to speculate .... since FDE development/testing is "a very lengthy process" (if it´s to be done properly) and the DC8 family is, of course, one of the very largest among civil aircraft developments so far representd by HJG, and which means all of these simulations need being reviewed/edited to varying extents .... and which will also additionally (hopefully) result in the inclusion of a number of other significant, but not previously represented (by HJG), sub versions among each DC8 type model too. This is "A VERY BIG PROJECT" .... and I¨m simply not prepared to try´n rush things. I´d rather "EVERYTHING" be got as good as it can possibly be got .... and then .... everything released "TOGETHER" .... once I´m first satisfied. All I´ll say further and in regard to this project is .... It "WILL" result in some of the current HJG DC8 simulations performing much better/more acurately .... AND .... "PATIENCE" may/should be rewarding also. Mark C BOG/CO
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Post by Dee Waldron - HJG on Dec 2, 2013 3:14:56 GMT
Our (HJG) DC-8 has a linage that goes all the back to FS5! Always being improved and updated. Will JF keep up that kind of support? Don't know. It remains to be seen. Our current DC-8 models are indeed getting long in the tooth, but they march on like the dependable soldiers their RW counterparts are. In the current FS market / FS community situation, I think JF shot themselves in the foot by limiting their potential customer base to just FSX. Maybe that's what the "Just" in "Just Flight" means (?). That's all my comments on the matter. Cheers! Dee
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Post by rb211 on Feb 15, 2014 5:51:18 GMT
Hi everyone
Sorry to resurrect an old topic but a large service pack has been released for this rendition of the diesel 8. the changes mainly effect cockpit instrumentation and the autopilot system. The gauges for the aircraft are now more historic with a more accurate altimeter, air speed indicator and navigation gauges. The autopilot is now a more accurate historical rendition with functionality similar to HJGs with a few differences. The auto throttle system of the original is know gone as well. All and all I give credit for Just Flight listening to the fan base and making these significant changes. The plane is much more enjoyable to fly now then before and offers just enough complexity to satisfy the majority of simmers. Well by no means a hardcore simulation(I find the planes still overpowered) The plane is shaping up to be a very nice add on for the price. While I know most people here dont have use for the plane, I just thought i would inform everyone of the changes since my original purchase.
Cheers and Happy Simming
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