Problems with flickering

[mog]

Hi again all, Happy New Year!


Ok lots of problems, I've recently changed computer, I now have a desktop with Windows 7 x 64, I've loaded my aircraft on it but of my favourites exhibit the same problem, the HJG DC 7-50 has a flickering MWP and Maddog has a flickering 2D main panel and overhead panel, maddog has a fix on its site but it didn't work, there was a modification to this fix on the Avsim site but that didn't work either, both fixes require a change to the registry, the second modified fix I have now removed, the first fix I can't remove because an update to win.7 erased my restore points, I have been in touch with Davide of Leonardo House but all he has managed to tell me is that it worked (the original unmodified fix) on his machine which is also a windows 7 x 64 machine.

On the Maddog it is true that if you operate in windowed mode the flickering stops, and the same is true of the HJG DC 7-50, I have to say at this juncture that I hate operating in windowed mode!

One difference between the two is that although they are both in 2D mode the flickering on the HJG DC 7-50 is only on the MWP whereas the flickering on Maddog is every switch and knob!!

Has anybody got any idea how to fix this, it's driving me nuts! 


Pleeeeeaaaase

mog

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

DC 7-50 ....
.... maddog has a fix on its site but it didn't work

I assume you mean "DC-8-50" .... since not only was there never any DC-7-50, but, we/HJG don't represent such either.

You also mention "MADDOG SITE" too .... so .... I assume you not referring to our/HJG supplied MD80/90 SERIES .... and in which case then we can't provide technical advice.

Aside from the above ....

I assume everything worked fine for you previously ..... "PRIOR TO" changing PC's/systems.

All I can "suggest" is a possible conflict of drivers .... maybe .... or other such driver related probnlem/s.

If this be the case .... then .... it's something we're hard-pressed to advise in regard to (even concerning our own products) since these sorts of issue often tend to be case/system specific .... unfortunatey .... with no such thing as a uniform kind of fix that resolves everyones issue unlike might be the case in regard to a particular gauge function oddity.

I, personally, don't recall hearing of, and have certainly never experienced, the like of what you describe.

This may be a situation where you're going to need to research, and test, drivers .... until you find "the one" that resolves such issues, on your system, and to your satisfaction .... I regret to have to say

HJG panels are all intended to be run in "FULL SCREEN" mode.

The only other suggestion I can offer is ....

Try adjusting your screen resolution (both in FS and in WINDOWS .... ensuring both settings are the same/in agreance) and see if that helps .... to any extent at all.

Some older panels don't like, or aren't designed to be run in, extremly high resolutions.

Other than what I've commented above .... I'm really all out of advice

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[Nathan Ford - HJG]

 Windows vista and 7 and 8 have an interactive desktop that works very differently to XP and previous windows versions. This has meant that many system/video card setups don't work very well in full screen mode.

Right click on the FS9.exe icon and under properties tick the boxes for "disable desktop composition" an disable visual themes" and make sure you run in windowed mode.

I think it is simply a case that FS9 is very old technology and tweaks like this are required to get it to run smoothly. Why some people seem to have no issues I don't know. I know of no software that can be downloaded to sort it out.

I found this advice on another forum.
I have Win7 64bit and have only been able to run it in windowed mode. It took a while, but now I don't even notice the difference. 

Cheers,

Nathan.

[mog]

Hi Mark and Nathan,

Firstly Mark, as you can see I'm going downhill fast! I meant to put DC 9-50! where the seven came from I don't know, apologies matey,

Nathan, thanks for the idea, I'll give it a go although because I have a wide screen it's difficult to get the definition without the picture looking squashed!

I heard from Davide of Leonardo House who suggested checking if it is being run in compatibility for XP.

All these I will try and get back to you, if I knew more about computers I might try taking the hard drive from my old machine and putting it in the new one, so one HDD with Win. 7 and one with Win. XP, but I don't know if the drivers on the new machine would work with such an old OS?

Keep 'em coming

Terry B

[mog]

OK, I have selected "run in compatibility mode for Win. XP", but no change, with your idea Nathan you say make sure you run in "windowed mode", in that mode without any other changes I have no problems anyway, only in full screen 2D.

Maybe a complete re-install of FS2004 is looming? lets hope not!

Just as a matter of interest my system (as far as I know!)

AMD Athlon 11 Dual 236 x64

Navidia GeForce GT 610

4.0 GB Ram

Win 7 x64 Home Premium

MB As Rock (don't know the details)

Terry B

[Nathan Ford - HJG]

Hi Terry,
From what I can see, Googling (since when did that become a worrd) and such, pretty much everyone says FS9 needs to be run in windowed mode with Win7 and above. I know what you mean about it looking squashed in the 2D window, let me know how you go with XP compatibility mode. As far as a reinstall goes, I think you will end up with exactly the same results.
If you put your old drive with XP on it into the machine, you would have to install reinstall FlightSim after you have booted up using the XP OS. That way all of your sim info will be in the XP registry. The only problem, like you said, is you will still have all of the old drivers for the old motherboard, CPU etc. Really you would need to wipe the drive and do a fresh install of XP then reload all the drivers into XP and do all the Windows updates, then install FS9. You would also have to change the boot up in BIOS so that it asks you which drive, hence which OS, that you want to boot from. A lot of work, but it is possible.
In my case, I'm just stuck with having to use windowed mode.

Cheers,
Nathan.

[Nathan Ford - HJG]

Here is a fix that allows you to run boarder less windowed mode. It basically will give you full screen while in windowed mode without the full screen problems. So no more 'squashed' FS9.

It's available at avsim

link


I hope that helps 

Cheers,

Nathan.

[mog]

Hi Nathan,

Thanks for that, I looked at the link but it's for FSX not FS2004, but it got me thinking and that's always dangerous! I hunted around and came up with an app. from GitHub called Borderless-gaming, I've installed it and it's cured the flickering!!!, there is a little"tearing" in VC when you pan left and right with the coolie hat but I can live with that, also the FS tool bar is always there but again I don't find it a problem.
So indirectly matey you provided the answer!

Thanks again to all, we'll call this fixed!

Terry B

[Nathan Ford - HJG]

Pleased you have it sorted. The link above, although in the FSX section of AVSIM will work with any windowed program (I am using it in FS9 myself)

Great that it's fixed though.

Cheers,

Nathan.