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Post by walterleo on Apr 26, 2017 18:27:28 GMT
Hi friends: The Tu-134 was for INTERFLUG the working horse flying around over Europe. It was very noisy but had a really rakish look only to compare with the early Learjets. And similarly to the tip tank Lears it was difficult to handle in crosswind landings. Kind regards Walter The forrunner of the Tu-134 the Tu-124 was not very popular with the VIPS in East Germnay it was very loud also inside. So it was quickly sold back to Tupolev. Kind regards Walter
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Apr 26, 2017 19:27:50 GMT
Ive never flown the TU-134, but, have flown the TU-124 .... which, as I recall, flew r-e-a-l-l-y well .... it's FDE creating the kind of feel that made me "want to fly it" more. Sadly ... HJG projects intervened and had to hangar it Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by walterleo on Apr 27, 2017 10:00:34 GMT
Hi Mark: The SAMDIM Tu-124 is a very good simulation with many nice details like the brake chute the brake shield and the ground spoliers all working similar to the real thing and changing the flight dynamics as they did in real. There were only two bugs in SAMDIMs original edition: The counter of the NI-50 navigation computer did not count correctly and VOR radios were missing. But there was a real good simulation of the RSBN system which allowes not only to fly from station to station but also calculated "fly direct" and circles, like the Western military TACAN can. Also a simulation of an astrocompass and the automatic astronavigation computer DAK is included. Not to speak of the wonderful simulation of the KS-6 compass system, which allows you flying greatcircle "direct" in FS9 without the help of GPS or INS. The astrocampass and the DAK-DB is seen in that picture left of the big radiocompass, showing the distance of 140 km on great circle flown with a groundspeed of 700 km/h. In real not only the GDRs VIP transport unit (TG44) and various units of the soviet military used it but also the Indian Army had 3 of them. Sadam Hussein used two. That two were destoryed by US Airforce in the first Irak war. One of Indias Tu-124 crashed with the then Indian Prime Minister on board in a very difficult night circling approach. The pilots underestimated the wind at circling altitude and came in too short, they died at impact but all passangers survived. That accident and a sucessful forced landing in a harbour pond at Leningrad (St. Petersburg) with all on board surviving unhurt gave the Tu-124 the fame that it was "built like a tank". I have brushed up a little the original Tu-124 and made the NI-50 system counting correctly, put in VOR radios for flying under "Western skies" and amended the RSBN database for flights over the former GDR, the Gulf of Mexico and Cuba. and tweaked the fuel burn a little to comply to the book values. The VIP airplanes had a bigger center tank, so do mines also. The real Tu-124 with the shape of the bigger Tu-104 stands in the shadow of the 104 but this is not just: It was the first airliner of the world with turbofan eingines and the first soviet jet-airliner capable to operate on short runways. Over the years it proofed to be safe and efficient, but loud inside. One who tries that bird it is still a "pilots airplane" with a only very basic AP without any coupling to radio navigation aids. Alltogether it is a simulation ideal to enter the strange world of Soviet airliners, which are in many respect differnt but built to comply their missions in the harsh environment of their "birthplace". Have a nice flight!
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Post by Nathan Ford - HJG on Apr 28, 2017 9:27:51 GMT
A fantastic set of photos Walter, I really enjoy all your eastern block pics.
Cheers,
Nathan.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Apr 28, 2017 9:36:19 GMT
"MYSTICAL" .... and .... "MYSTERIOUS" .... and .... "FASCINATING" .... is how I've always looked upon the Soviet era classic jetlines. They possess a kind of appeal/attraction that "I can't quite adequately put into words" .... even after a few STOLICHAYA's or MOSKOVKAYA's .... or even 42 BELOW's Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by walterleo on Apr 28, 2017 15:25:00 GMT
Hi friends: Thanks for the flowers! Did not say, that the Tu-124 was succesfully flown by Aeroflot from 1960 until 1980 and by CSA also. Sorry did not find a CSA repaint yet, but the Aerflot 60s and 70s paintings are available. Also military paintings of the USSR airforce and the GDR airforce can be found. The INTERFLUG painting was a diguise as it was flown by the pilots of the TG44 the transport branch of the East German NVA (national peoples army) to transport high level Politicians. But after the crash of the INTERFLUG IL-62 DM-SEA 1972 the "civil" painted Tu-124s were used for two years for regular civil flights, but were flown by military flightcrews as INTERFLUG did not train their pilots to fly the 124. Kind regards Walter P.S.: On Avsim.su various versions of the Tu-124 simulation had been published, so the original one by SAMDIM, one revised version with improved flight dynamics by "Vlaz" and mine under "WalterLeo" with improved panels and further revised flightdynamics.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Apr 28, 2017 20:21:10 GMT
That's quite OK Walter .... you an buy the drinks later/when the time comes Walter knows what I mean .... aye Walter BTW .... where did you get that (what appears to be a) Chinese or Russian Air Force TU-124 ? .... # 22 ! Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by walterleo on Apr 28, 2017 23:21:24 GMT
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Post by Nathan Ford - HJG on Apr 30, 2017 11:41:36 GMT
Quick video of an Air Koryo 134 to get an example of the cabin noise. Still awfully cool though..
Cheers Nathan
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Apr 30, 2017 20:57:52 GMT
"AIR KORYO" .... HMMMM .... "Kim's coach" I guess .... if people get my drift Thanks for that file link Walter Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by walterleo on May 1, 2017 8:14:23 GMT
Hi: Yes Air Koryo ist North Koreas state airline and owns and operates still some Soviet built airliners, so 2 Tu-134 and Tu-154 (1), IL 62 (1), Il 18 (1), 3 AN 24 and 3 IL-76 freighters. There are special tours organzied to fly on these airliners in North Corea for aviation buffs who are willing to spend a small fortune on that experience. People who took that kind of vacations report they were well treated and the airplanes looked well kept and did smell well. The internal noise of the Tu-134 is quite lower in comparison with the Tu-124 as the high pitched shreek of the Soloviev engines in the 134 was farther away from most passengers as in the 124. No wonder that the Tu-124s career as VIP airplane was very limited. Kind regards Walter P.S.: At the end of the video (minute 8:30) one can see on the middle console (as it is a Tu-134 B3 WITHOUT glasnose) a hand held GPS. So the art of using the NAS doppler radar navigation system is also a "species in danger of extinction" even in North Korea!
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Post by Herman on May 1, 2017 15:49:10 GMT
Very nice video and great looking airplane.
Herman
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