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Post by eastern1004 on Jul 21, 2017 6:47:37 GMT
That statement is a lie and a huge discourtesy to FSX users.
Has NO ONE at HJG tried these panels in FSX?
They work fine.
Get with the program and stop lying to people.
I have pics using these panels in FSX but I'm not interested in going through the rigamarole of posting a pic on this site.
Why don't you make it simple to post pics, as Flightsim.com does?
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Post by Tony Madge - HJG on Jul 21, 2017 9:33:23 GMT
Eastern, why are you so abrupt with your posts, you help no one by going off on one??? If your not happy with HJG then you don't have to stay. You can help people by saying "this and that panel I have found works in FSX" Instead of going off on one like an angry guy, what does that achieve?? By the way we are a free site that does not lie to people and I personally find your posts offensive and not conjunctive to a good FS experience. Ok to make things clear we are FS9 based but we do know our planes usually work in FSX, we do not state that these panels WILL work in FSX simply because that would be a lie if they did not?? So see it as a bonus if they do and try smiling  Thats my last edit  |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jul 21, 2017 10:12:04 GMT
In addition to Tony's comnments .... which I "fully endorse" ....
"EASTERN1004" .... You make "a statement" .... but .... fail to clarify precisely what files you're referring to.
Doing so would have been a logical if not intelligent place to start.
There's files here we say "are not" FSX portable (by virtue of their composition) .... among those we say are .... but .... even among those we know are portable there exists certain incompatibilities (items/procedures that simply "DO NOT/CANNOT" work in FSX) acknowledged by us .... and that's why pages hosting those particular files are labelled "NOT FOR FSX USE".
We (among those whom design and supply what we offer) are in a better position to determine what is, and isn't, FSX campatible or portable than you .... or anyone else .... and whilst you're entitled to your own somewhat misguiding opinion (to the limit of our tolerance with you on this forum .... which, I warn you, is wearing mighty thin) .... it's obvious your idea of FSX compatibility, versus our own, represents the greater incompatibility.
If you wish to ignore our advice .... then that's fine .... but .... if a file which we state isn't FSX intended presents any issues, in FSX (and which "WILL" be the case in "some" cases), then, don't expect FSX support for it or beyond what's already been previously communicated.
Be advised ....
THIS GROUP "WILL NOT" CERTIFY ANY FILE AS FSX COMPATIBLE/PORTABLE IF WE KNOW IT "IS NOT" .... OR .... IF THE AUTHORS/SUPPLIERS OF ANY SUCH FILE "SPECIFICALLY REQUEST WE NOT DO SO" .... AND THAT IS WHAT DEFINES WHAT WE SAY IS, AND IS NOT, FSX COMPATIBLE/PORTABLE AND IS WHERE THIS MATTER ENDS.
Mark C
AKL/NZ
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Post by Nathan Ford - HJG on Jul 21, 2017 12:27:18 GMT
WTH (What The Hell), Eastern1004, what are you on about!!! Why are you attacking these amazing people! Tony, Mark, George, Benoit and many, many other people spend tireless hours of their own time, their own flight sim time working hard to perfect a product, which they offer to you for (lets face it) the cost of a lungful of air. You know FREE! How do you repay them, you call them "liars" and tell them they are doing a "huge discourtesy". WHAT?  !!!!' You can't be bothered attaching a photo and complain about proboards.com not making it easy to attach a photo, but have you ever made a donation to proboards or simviation.com? I have on many occasions as it allows people to host their work FOR FREE and offer help FOR FREE. Historic Jetliners Group offer a range of hosted aircraft with custom panels, sounds and repaints designed for FS2004 (FS9) period. Some of the panels etc work in FSX but they are not designed for FSX. For example, I use the 727 in FSX, but you only have to search the forums (if it's not to much rigmarole) to see the problems I have with taxi and takeoff cockpit sounds. Also, when I do an engine start using the correct procedures, instead of control e, I can't shut the engines down past 20%. Do the panels "work" in FSX.... yes, do they work as designed in FS2004, for me, no. In future, can I suggest that if you have something positive or helpful to say on the forum, that you share it with us. If you plan on attacking these fine people who are giving such pleasure, FOR FREE, to so many, may I suggest you keep your recalcitrant remarks to yourself or just go else where, I for one don't want to have to see it! Nathan p.s. did I mention that they do all this FOR FREE!!!! Yes I did. |
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Post by deeman69 - HJG on Jul 21, 2017 13:19:29 GMT
UN-Beeee-lievvv-able!
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Post by Falcon on Jul 21, 2017 13:53:23 GMT
Way to go you guys at HJG! Of all the nerve. Can you consider banning him from the site? I use FSX and yes some panels do work that aren't suppose to but they do not work in FSX like the do in FS9. Crashes are common, sometimes the gear and flaps won't work, but if one wants to use them in fsx than go for it. By the way it is unbelievable that anyone would address these fine people and this forum site with that kind of language and attitude. Go Figure! Don't let this guy get to you. He sounds like "The Donald" and we get enough of him in the good ole USA!
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Post by Tony Madge - HJG on Jul 21, 2017 14:37:55 GMT
Thank you all for the kind comments, I do not mind people telling us when we get something wrong, if possible will work to fix an issue, the recent warnings on our site which were false meant that many many and a few more hours were spent by us at HJG screening everything, we get duff links, we try as quickly as possible to fix them. What has annoyed me is the angry man attitude to a non problem..... I do not want to ban folk (had to do it once recently) from the forum but I wont let one spoil it for others. |
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Post by Herman on Jul 22, 2017 14:14:56 GMT
I think a form of "Rage" is involved here.
Herman
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Post by Falcon on Jul 22, 2017 17:23:57 GMT
OMG Flight Sim RAGE! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
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Post by canuck on Jul 22, 2017 22:07:21 GMT
OMG the arrogance of some folk is truly astounding. Must be one of those Millennials I keep hearing about.
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Post by walterleo on Jul 23, 2017 2:47:58 GMT
Hi friends;
Everybody after a bad night can have emotional outbrakes, but using the term "lie" one should be careful, as a "lie" implies a bad will to distort reality or rob benefits from somebody by that. As HJG is a free of charge place to create a museum of classic jet airliners nobody will take a undue benefit from you by declaring that some of its work is not desinged for FSX. Some other work even has panel.cfg for FSX included. If somebody has with his flightsimming activities no problem using simulation "not designed for FSX" on FSX fine, but that is outside the "guaranties" of the developers. As we all have our ideals and shortcomings we should treat each others as friends working on a common goal, trying to make our FS world better.
Kind regards
Walter
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jul 23, 2017 10:40:14 GMT
I want to thank those whom have expressed their support to us. That sort of loyalty is appreciated. "EASTERN1004" has made his statement .... as can be read. We've responded to his statement .... as can be read also .... only what we've replied is the way things "ARE", and will "REMAIN", and for the justifications we've expressed. I don't want to publicly hammer-blow this particular individual beyond what's absolutely necessary .... and that's despite his apparent history (since 2015) of making short, sharp, abrasive, and generally sniping/sneeringly negative remarks (as may be read as well .... a couple of which were removed though due to their cultural insensitivity) that neither assist nor inspire anyone. Let it just be said .... if anyone participating on "this forum" has nothing positive, pleasant, or constructive to present then simply refrain from making any contributions at all. As a result of his own actions/mannerism .... "EASTERN1004" has earned himself a degree of contempt from this community (I feel), but, we won't be banning him .... unless any real need arises for us to have do so in the future. Nor will we be locking this thread either ..... since we've absolutely nothing to hide ourselves. Instead we'll give him the opportunity to make a public apology .... "if he has the intestinal fortitude to desire doing so". In the meantime .... let's all just leave this thread alone now please Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by blahblahgats on Dec 8, 2023 16:32:50 GMT
HJG makes a good mob against anything anti-FS2004.
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Post by Tony Madge - HJG on Dec 8, 2023 18:56:27 GMT
Blahblahgats not sure what your problem is but you seem unhappy with something ?? I did chuckle when I read "Moods not good right now, lost to grown men in their 40s and 50s" people never fail to make me smile |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Dec 9, 2023 5:22:55 GMT
He's not got a (valid) problem. It's simply a (silly/misguided) remark. His perception appears to be responses within this thread (now 6+ years old) are some form of retraction from fact .... on our part and where FSX in concerned. When we say "not FSX portable" we do so for reasons. Whether or not people agree is an entirely different matter but they'd be wise/er to follow to our advice .... although such's entirely up to them of course. Stated "reasons" can vary from said files not running properly, or at all, in FSX .... OR .... it can simply mean development authors of said files "HAVE NOT" authorized us to market their work as FSX portable. The subject of this (old) thread was in relation to the AFG CARAVELLE simulations in particular. I want to point out we've "NOT" said these particular simulations won't load into/run in FSX. All we've stated (and repeated many times both prior to, and since this thread was posted) is the following ... 1. HJG did not produce the CARAVELLE simulations .... though we were asked to, and did in fact, play a role in their pre-release development by AFG.
2. The CARAVELLE panels were produced by an entirely different party again .... and not by AFG.
3. Neither of the 2 developers concerned have authorized us to market their work as FSX portable, so, we simply "DO NOT" do so .... and there this matter should concludeWe're aware these simulations apparently load into FSX, but, "from an overall performance perspective" (meaning panel/gauge/FDE inter-relationship primarily .... i.e all panel/gauge features functioning "as they should/are intended to") we're unable to guarantee these simulations will perform in FSX with the same panel/gauge integrity evident in FS2004 (such is something only those intimately involved with panel/gauge development and testing of these simulations can comment in regard to). Therefore in the interest of end user satisfaction we won't market anything for any FS version if we're not first satisfied .... or more importantly .... if were not authorized (by product developers) to do so. In regard to the AFG CARAVELLE's I can state (re-state) the following with absolute authority/sincerity .... A. The FDE we offer with these simulations is a more advanced version of the original FDE (there are no FS version or panel/gauge implications in this however because our editing had no relationship to anything panel/gauge related) .... the externally uploaded AFG CARAVELLE simulations are supported by an older/the original FDE suite.
B. The sound pack HJG was requested, by AFG, to develop for their CARAVELLE simulations (accompanying the external release and which is also available here too in unmodified form) "IS NOT" FSX customized .... meaning .... it'll work in FSX (though certain audio elements may not function at all), but, "HAS NOT" been formatted to run in accordance with the more advanced FSX audio engine. These particular sound packs are therefore "FS2004 NATIVE ONLY". Those are the fact folks. Nobody here's mobbed against FSX .... or misled anyone by any stretch of imagination. We simply state what we know .... or are told to communicate .... and nothing more, or less, than that All matters of FS version compatibility are judgements only we (in conjunction with developers with whom we collaborate) can make. MRC |
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