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Post by starstream707 on Mar 16, 2007 0:15:55 GMT
Hi! My first post here. I was wondering if anyone could make the EARLY SAM 26000 707-320B model with a belly-fin. The Air Force One paint scheme in the early '60s was different than on SAM 27000 in the 1980's. The dark blue was a little more faded and "U.S. Air Force" was labeled just under the cockpit windows in the light blue on each side and on the cheatline just aft of the back doors. Also on 26000 in the early '60s, the black on the nose was painted with a more subtle edge than on 27000 in the '80s. It also had the smaller "sucker doors" on the engines unlike the newer models. Thanks so much for supplying the aviation community with quality add-ons! Keep'em flyin'!
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Post by starstream707 on Mar 16, 2007 0:17:47 GMT
Also, forgot to mention that the cockpit windows were outlined in the dark blue and not the chrome as in later years.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Mar 16, 2007 5:33:01 GMT
We've only just recently taken on an early B707-320B model with the lower rear fuselage ventral fin, and early style JT3D fanjet engines with smaller sucker doors, but, we've first got to fix a "wonky" starboard wing texture which causes titles/logos on that wing to appear inverted. See what happens .... and we'll see what we can do. No promises though  Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by starstream707 on Mar 16, 2007 6:04:04 GMT
No problem, I understand. Also, another note, the "USAF" letters on top and below the wings are in black instead of blue along with a different font. I tried to find pics of the aircraft online in the early scheme, but no luck. You guys are awesome and I appreciate it! Please keep me posted!
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Post by starstream707 on May 2, 2007 16:32:49 GMT
We've only just recently taken on an early B707-320B model with the lower rear fuselage ventral fin, and early style JT3D fanjet engines with smaller sucker doors, but, we've first got to fix a "wonky" starboard wing texture which causes titles/logos on that wing to appear inverted. See what happens .... and we'll see what we can do. No promises though Mark C AKL/NZ Any update on this early B model? |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on May 2, 2007 20:46:30 GMT
OK .... since adding the section the VC137-A, -B, & -C section to "PART 2" of our B707/720 history a couple of days ago (on our "AIRCRAFT HISTORIES" forum page), I've been in contact with Gary CARLSON regarding "V6" upgrades od each of these models.
He wants/intends to update these models .... but .... it must await his convenience of course.
Also .... I have here a large and clear colour image of "SAM 26000" in her 1990's style USA livery .... and it clearly shows no rear fuselage ventral fin.
I know the VC137-A's were all upgraded with standard B7007/720 tall tails, and ventral fins, along with TF33 fanjet engines .... in fact I have here another good image of 2 VC137-B's (86970 and 86972) which clearly show the ventral fin fitted to both aircraft.
I know a very small number of early build B707-320B's (1962) did ifeature the ventral fin .... but .... the majority of -320B's were built to "Advanced" -320B standard .... according to my research as outlined in the above mentioned history article.
I assume that SAM 26000 & 27000 were both built to B707-320B ADVC standard .... which means no ventral fin, full fan LE flaps, and later model fanjet engines with larger blow-in doors located more toward the leading edge of each nacelle intake casing.
Mark C
AKL/NZ
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Post by starstream707 on May 3, 2007 2:36:16 GMT
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on May 3, 2007 3:12:30 GMT
INTERESTING !  Certainly a ventral fin alright .... and "26000" too  As my image .... also of 26000 .... definitely shows no ventral fin on this particular aircraft, I can only assume it must then have been converted to B707-320B ADVC standard later I'll put all this to Gary anyway .... and we'll see what he comes up with Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by starstream707 on May 3, 2007 3:19:11 GMT
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on May 3, 2007 3:27:51 GMT
AH HA ! .... so then she was upgraded to B707-320B ADVC standard ! That'll explain the difference in our reference imagery  Our current VC137-C model/texture is based on this post 1969 reconfiguration/upgrade. HMMM .... maybe I should incorporate these details into my history notes. This's something I wasn't aware of previously !  Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by starstream707 on May 3, 2007 3:30:04 GMT
AH HA ! .... so then she was upgraded to B707-320B ADVC standard ! That'll explain the difference in our reference imagery Our current VC137-C model/texture is based on this post 1969 reconfiguration/upgrade. HMMM .... maybe I should incorporate these details into my history notes. This's something I wasn't aware of previously ! Mark C AKL/NZ Not a problem at all! That's why in my original post I emphasized "EARLY" SAM 26000. Glad to help out and be sure to check out those books if you get a chance! I'm pumped for this version of the plane because it is not on the net ANYWHERE! ;D |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on May 3, 2007 4:42:21 GMT
Thanks "STARSTREAM707" Our history notes have been updated .... you may need to referesh your browser before you can view these edits .... if you wish to view them again that is "IF" we should release both VC137-C model configurations in the future (no promises) then I'll send the bill to you .... OK ;D Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by jetcopter55 on May 29, 2007 6:26:00 GMT
Great site you guys have here I must say. Been browsing the posts and airplanes for awhile and have quite a selection. I'm impressed. If this would be any help, found this over at airliners.net... www.airliners.net/open.file/1216996/M/ |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on May 29, 2007 11:46:56 GMT
Thanks for those comments "JETCOPTER55"  We do try very hard ;D Thanks for sharing that image too .... though I've abbreviated your link so it doesn't continue reading like chinese That particular image certainly shows-off the ventral fin quite well .... along with the early style TF33 fanjets with their original/smaller sucker doors set slightly further back on each engine inlet cowling. I'm hoping we might eventually be able to offer the VC137-C in both early and later configurations .... but .... can't promise anything yet. Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by bobdawkins on May 29, 2007 13:55:31 GMT
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