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Post by simpilo on Nov 22, 2018 4:41:41 GMT
Firstly I would like to mention to those that like to have modern routes that are flown in the DC-10. Mainly Fedex is flying the bird still today. Flightaware has authentic routes. flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/DC10 I am looking for authentic historic timetables or schedules for the DC-10 when it was flown daily by passenger carriers. I found a Northwest Airlines museum but their PDF was a bit much as they flown a variety of aircraft. I am looking for DC-10 exclusive schedules to fly in my simulator. It doesn't need to be company specific. I can accept different companies flying these routes in the DC-10.
Thank You!
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Post by Klaus Hullermann on Nov 22, 2018 7:10:43 GMT
If you're searching for complete historic timetables, then look here: www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/complete/complete.htm. For example Lufthansa used the DC-10 in the 70s for long haul flights and you can choose several LH-flight with the DC-10 from their timetable from 1975 (which you can find as a complete timetable on that webside). I'm sure you'll find complete timetables from other DC-10-operators on that webside and I'm sure they'll give you lots of flights to recreate. Klaus
EDIT: I've changed the hyperlink, so that it directs to the complete timetables from www.timetableimages.com. Thanks "simpilo" for pointing out the small but important mistake of mine.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Nov 22, 2018 11:09:28 GMT
Depending on the era one wants to imagine themselves to be flying in .... there´s actually very few major long haul routes (excluding the "super long range" routes of today) in the world that weren´t flown by the DC-10-30, -30ER, -40, and -40I aircraft .... and of course these routes were later/have since been assumed by even longer ranging and more logistically AIRBUS (types), B747, B767, B777, and B787 aircraft.
During the early 1970´s there were probably more DC-10´s in service among the worlds airlines than was the case with B747´s .... although that started to change quckly from around the mid, to late, 1970´s.
The DC-10-10, -15, and -40D tended to be used on medium haul routes .... although some of the LAKER DC-10-10´s were equipped with an auxiliary fuel tank ("ER" aircraft .... soon to be offered by HJG) and which enabled trans-Atlantic services to be operated from the UK to eastern and central North American ports and return.
Even by the late 1980´s the DC-10-30 and -30ER were "very desirable" aircraft in the case of some long range routes such ....as Bankok/Auckland "direct" in the case of THAI AIRWAYS INTERNATIONAL and the DC-10-30ER. The aircraft had the "right capacity" whereas that of the B747 was in excess of reequirements for such a route/this eoute in particular and at that time.
Mark C BOG/CO
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Post by simpilo on Nov 22, 2018 11:59:03 GMT
If you're searching for historic timetables, then look here. For example Lufthansa used the DC-10 in the 70s for long haul flights and you can choose several LH-flight with the DC-10 from their timetable from 1975 (which you can find as a complete timetable on that webside). I'm sure you'll find complete timetables from other DC-10-operators on that webside and I'm sure they'll give you lots of flights to recreate. Klaus Your hyper link "here" points to this thread.
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Post by walterleo on Nov 22, 2018 16:08:17 GMT
Hi friends: Historic timetables all over the world you find here: timetableimages.com/ttimages/complete/complete.htmHope that helps Kind regards Walter P.S.: The problem is only, that most of the timetables are "historic" and are documented only up to tzhe mid seventies. But for B 707, 727 are very useful.
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Post by Mike Monce - HJG on Nov 23, 2018 13:45:31 GMT
Another source is departed flights: www.departedflights.com/ If you go to the Historic schedules page there are schedules for 1974-1999, by city. For each city is complete schedules by airline. Under the airlines look for the DC10 and click it, then when pulling up the complete schedule, the equipment use will be highlighted in red if it's a DC10. It's takes a bit more work to get a route , but if you sort of know what you're looking for then it's a good resource. Mike
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Post by simpilo on Nov 23, 2018 19:49:09 GMT
Thanks everyone for helping. I appreciate the replies. It's not really that difficult to find routes in the DC 10 based on your feedback. I figured out that the DC 10 was used for trans-oceanic flights in the DC 10 by Air Florida back in 1983 from London Gatwick www.departedflights.com/LGW83intro.htmlAll 4 listed flew from London Gatwick: AIR FLORIDA Aircraft Operated: McDonnell Douglas DC-10 Destinations Served: Miami AMERICAN AIRLINES Aircraft Operated: McDonnell Douglas DC-10 Destinations Served: Dallas/Fort Worth (TX) BRITISH CALEDONIAN AIRWAYS Aircraft Operated: Boeing 707, Boeing 747-100/200, British Aerospace BAC One-Eleven, McDonnell Douglas DC-10 Destinations Served: Abidjan, Accra, Amsterdam, Atlanta, Banjul, Brussels, Dallas/Fort Worth, Douala, Dubai, Dublin, Edinburgh, Frankfurt, Geneva, Geno, Glasgow, Houston Intercontinental, Jersey, Kano, Lagos, Los Angeles (CA), Lusaka, Manchester, Paris Charles de Gaulle, Recife, San Juan, Tripoli, Tunis WORLD AIRWAYS Aircraft Operated: McDonnell Douglas DC-10 Destinations Served: Baltimore The site never said which variant of the DC 10 was used for trans-oceanic flights. I have learned that the DC 10 loaded ranges (285 passengers) are as follows: DC 10-10 3,800 miles DC 10-15 4,350 miles DC 10-30 6,600 miles Dc 10-40 5,750 miles Typical or more common usage was domestic flights. Seems to me based on the evidence it was a multi-use aircraft as far as domestic or international. So I feel less guilty flying the DC 10 any variant between KJFK and EGLL. I needed evidence it was actually flown on trans-oceanic flights in history. Departed Flights and Time Table Images websites are the best evidence we have at this date and I accept it to be fact. So I will fly it both international and domestic.
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Post by Nathan Ford - HJG on Nov 24, 2018 11:58:59 GMT
There is also a really cool little freeware program called “Flight Scheduler.”
It has a lot of different historic aircraft and their routes. The webpage is no longer available, but if you pm me, I can send you a copy. Cheers, Nathan
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