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Post by fs2k4pilot on Feb 9, 2019 8:33:22 GMT
After seeing its story on Air Disasters/Air Crash Investigation/Mayday, I would like to request a repaint of 737-3T0 N75356, which famously made a dead-stick landing on the levee adjacent to NASA's Michoud Assembly Facility in Louisiana due to dual engine failure from water and hail ingestion, as well as hot start damage due to hurried reignition attempts. The aircraft was examined by Boeing mechanics and NTSB investigators, and while the left engine was found to be marginally serviceable but in need of overhaul, the right engine was completely shot. When it came time to remove the aircraft, it was decided to tow the aircraft off the levee to the Michoud Facility, replace the right engine, and then fly the aircraft out.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Feb 9, 2019 11:56:07 GMT
We know the aircraft and the incident .... and I'm sure any number images exist of their -300's, but, the correct protocol (here) is that "the person requesting the texture should provide a good line profile images of the subject of interest" .... or requests will not be considered.
Personally .... I'm not keen upon representing "an accident/incident aircraft subject" for FS .... merely because the requested subject has been involved in the said accident/incident, so, another fleet member operated by the same airline, and in the same livery, would probably be more appropriate.
Whilst a number of the textures we offer are of accident/incident aircraft .... their inclusion here has been "coincidental" (due to our not knowing at the time of their representation) or otherwise in the interest of offering full variations of some period/fleet liveries where such representation can't be avoided.
My understanding of that particular incident is that the aircraft was flown "off the levee" again (by a BOEING specialist test air crew) .... and very light in order to be able to do so .... and not from the actual NASA facility nearby.
Mark C
AKL/NZ
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Post by fs2k4pilot on Feb 10, 2019 12:53:36 GMT
We know the aircraft and the incident .... and I'm sure any number images exist of their -300's, but, the correct protocol (here) is that "the person requesting the texture should provide a good line profile images of the subject of interest" .... or requests will not be considered. Personally .... I'm not keen upon representing "an accident/incident aircraft subject" for FS .... merely because the requested subject has been involved in the said accident/incident, so, another fleet member operated by the same airline, and in the same livery, would probably be more appropriate. Whilst a number of the textures we offer are of accident/incident aircraft .... their inclusion here has been "coincidental" (due to our not knowing at the time of their representation) or otherwise in the interest of offering full variations of some period/fleet liveries where such representation can't be avoided. My understanding of that particular incident is that the aircraft was flown "off the levee" again (by a BOEING specialist test air crew) .... and very light in order to be able to do so .... and not from the actual NASA facility nearby. Mark C AKL/NZ I'm afraid the best I can do on the image front is this: www.flickr.com/photos/131264507@N07/16910998401/in/photostream/
There are of course images of other TACA 737s on Google and elsewhere that would also be useful for general reference, but I don't have any real interest in the airline beyond this specific aircraft.
And I understand your concerns about depicting incident aircraft, since in so many cases the aircraft crashed and everyone about perished, but I don't see the problem in this particular case, since all souls on board and everyone on the ground survived (with only a single person injured, because she had stitches on her abdomen that were stressed when she tried to assume the brace position; she is alive and well today), the aircraft not only survived due to outstanding airmanship on the parts of the crew but even returned to service, and still lessons were learned that brought about significant improvements in the safety of one of the most widely used commercial jet engines specifically, and in jet engines as a whole, without the cost in human lives that is so often associated with such improvements. This was not a common air accident. This one was a win for everyone involved.
And no, despite the way it was presented on TV, the plane did not take off from the levee itself, although it's true that it was flown out by a test crew (rightly so, given the condition that the left engine was in). The levee that TACA 110 landed on was accessible by a road from the Michoud Facility, for ease of maintenance. The aircraft was removed from the levee via this road. The Michoud Facility was originally a US Army Airfield during WWII, and it had a paved runway. This runway was paved over and incorporated into what is now Saturn Boulevard. This is where TACA 110 took off from, rather than risking further damage to the aircraft as well as potential FOD damage by operating it from the unprepared levee (the FOD hazard being much more substantial on takeoff, since it had no working engines with which to suck up debris when it landed).
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Feb 10, 2019 19:30:55 GMT
That image is sufficient .... but .... "IF" (no promises) this subject is ever undertaken it may not be representative of the incident aircraft involved .... for reason of the preferences stated .... although that's entirely up to the artist concerned. The subject of representation of accident/incident aircraft has come up here a number of times over the past 13 years (and even during those 6 years of the original HJG prior to 2006 too). Opinion is varied on the subject (and often varied enough to constitute wanting to avoid such public discussion "in interests of peace") .... with no 2 people agreeing really. Despite some incidents becoming a win-win situation for everyone involved .... few airlines/operators .... and not too many pilots/aircrew either .... like to dwell on such thought (other than what's learned as a result .... the fact that vintage of CFM-56 turbofan could be drowned/have their fires put out by massive water ingestion whilst at low RPM and which forced modications as a result of this particular incident) .... and having (myself) walked away from "a serious incident" during 1984 I can (perhaps) appreciate their sentiments as to why. So, let's not push it please .... and we'll just "see what happens" in respect of this particular request .... in the hope it might become a win-win situation for everyone FS inclined too  .... even if some compromises are made  Again .... and at the end of the day .... it's up to our artists. Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by fs2k4pilot on Feb 11, 2019 6:42:25 GMT
Fair enough.
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Post by darrenvox on Feb 12, 2019 5:23:02 GMT
looks good
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.... even if some compromises are made 
