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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Feb 26, 2019 21:43:01 GMT
We do not often play games .... of any kind .... and on the rare occasion that we do, then, the games we like to play are not of any deceptictive/false or otherwise misleading kind. SO THEN .... we are going to play "a little game here" .... just to test how "observant" everyone (whom is interested) is Very soon we will be releasing new B737-300/400/500 3D models. These models are in addition to those we already offer .... and "are slightly diffrent", but, "we" are not going to state precisely what these differences are. Instead .... the difference/s is up to you to spot B737-300B737-300C/QC/SFB737-400B737-400 COMBIB737-400QC/SFB737-500PLEASE NOTE: This thread is about "B737-300/400/500 ONLY" .... no commentary please in regard to any other B737 version/s. HJG representatives may not participate in this game .... since most are aware of the definitions of this particular expansion project and know by default. "This little game" is for public participation with us only We thank Paul HAAK for his dogged determination wrestling these new models into existence .... "THANKS" Paul Further information may be provided .... as is deemed necessary and only upon someone successfully guessing the difference/s featured among these new/addtional 3D models. Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by hornit - HJG on Feb 27, 2019 0:02:24 GMT
Hmmm...I believe I know.....but since im one of the gang Ill refrain....and I have not corresponded with anyone on this either!
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Post by christrott on Feb 27, 2019 3:34:59 GMT
I think they have actual cargo doors and they are in FSX.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Feb 27, 2019 15:38:52 GMT
"NOPE" .... that would apply to C/COMBI, F, and QC versions only and if these had animated cargo doors then I'd have imaged them with their freight doors "open" .... and the current models (and sound packs too) are FSX portable anyway and do work fine in that FS platform .... albeit that the FS2004 CONCORD VISOR dictated assignment for the forward air stairs can't work in FSX.
In an any case .... animated cargo doors on any of these models would be "a major modification" and is something right off the menu since we do not have the original source code to be able to implement such details .... and which defines/limits what we can easily/successfully do.
These new and minor edits apply to all B733/4/5 models .... as featured within the above presentation.
Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by Klaus Hullermann on Feb 27, 2019 17:00:48 GMT
From what I can see from the screenshots, they have erased the 'eyebrows' of the 737 Classic. I don't know if there's more 'under the hood', but I'm sure Mark will tell us when he's ready. Klaus PS: You guys are doing a fantastic job offering so many classic Jetliners for FREE. Not only this, you are doing this in your FREE TIME. This can't be told enough!!! Keep up this wonderful and fantastic work!!!
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Mar 1, 2019 7:36:33 GMT
AND THE WINNER IS .... "Klaus from Germany" Glückwunsch mein freund "YES" .... we'll soon be releasing additional B733/4/5 models without the classic FD eye brow features. What seems to be a very simple little modification has actually been quite difficult to apply .... and it's only thanks to the dogged determination of our Paul HAAK that we've been able to do so at all. New base packs with these additional models will be released .... and which will also incorporate some teeny-weeny FDE edits too. We not quite done with these B737's yet .... and do have another couple of tricks up our sleeve therefore, and as per the title of this thread .... "something (else) wicked this way comes" .... all going to plan. AND .... thanks for your kind comments too Klaus .... "much appreciated" Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Mar 6, 2019 6:21:53 GMT
A few more details about this project and our intentions Previewed recently (per this thread) are each of our new non-eye brow featured B737-300, -400, -500 models. PLEASE NOTE: These models will support "any" of our current, and future, liveries/textures for these aircraft. Each of the current B737-300, -400, -500 aircraft base packs will soon support 2X 3D models respectively and as follows :- - MODEL (featuring the standard/non-modified aircraft configuration with the eye brow FD windows). - MODEL.733 NO BROW, MODEL.734 NO BROW, MODEL.735 NO BROW (each featuring the later modified aircraft configuration without the eye brow FD windows). An interesting detail to bear-in-mind though is both original and eye brow-less model configurations apply to any number of liveries/textures we currently represent .... as some of these aircraft featured eye brow windows when they first entered service with particular airlines/operators, but, were later modified (had their FD eye brow windows removed) whilst in service with those same airlines/operators. In such cases either model can apply to the very same aircraft type livery/texture and still be authentic pre and post modification configurations. 2007/8 is regarded as a reasonable guide as to when modified/non-eybrow featured B737-300's/-400's/-500's began to appear in number .... but .... liveries (those we represent at least) prior to this date support the original eye brow configuration which was featured on all B737 models from 1967/68. For the above reason/s .... and to simplify handling for ourselves .... we're "not" going to edit the FLTSIM.XX MODEL= data for our previously uploaded textures .... and which will then continue to default to the standard/non-modified B737-300, -400, -500 models. Instead we'll edit our B737 TEXTURE LIST (linked below) .... tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/thread/8799/hjg-b737-300-texture-inventory.... to identify each subject that's a "NO BROW" model candidate. All one will then need to do .... if they wish to .... and certainly if they want authentic representations of each aircraft type texture/livery .... is consult this list, note the livery/texture subjects marked, and then manually edit the FLTSIM.XX MODEL= data lines for each of these texture/livery subjects with the appropriate model file name to read as follows .... MODEL=733 NO BROW
MODEL=734 NO BROW
MODEL=735 NO BROW"Pretty bloody easy really Obviously all "new" B737-300, -400, -500 liveries/textures debued from the release date of the new V1.2 aircraft base packs will automatically default to their correct and respective 3D model files. PLEASE NOTE: Our new V1.2 B737-300/-400/-500 aircraft base packs have "not yet been released". PLEASE NOTE ALSO: Our above-linked B737 TEXTURE LIST has "no yet" been edited either .... and the edited version won't be available until the day the new base packs are released. More information will be posted soon concerning additional expansions to our 737-300/-400/-500 flight line. We remind folk this thread is in relation to our "B737-300/-400/-500 flight line only" .... and "not" in relation to any other prospective B737 aircraft types Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Mar 11, 2019 7:54:46 GMT
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Post by alex94 on Mar 11, 2019 9:21:34 GMT
Saw this coming, looks great!
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Mar 12, 2019 5:34:31 GMT
A quick review of all of the above .... our entire "NEW" B737-300/400/500 family members .... depicted here supporting both existing as well some of our "NEW" and yet to be released textures .... NON-EYE BROW FEATURED B737-300NON-EYE BROW FEATURED B737-400NON-EYE BROW FEATURED B737-500NEW EYE BROW & WNGLET FEATURED B737-300NEW NON-EYE BROW & WNGLET FEATURED B737-300NEW EYE BROW & WNGLET FEATURED B737-500NEW NON-EYE BROW & WNGLET FEATURED B737-300A little information cocernug the WL content of this B737 expansion .... Each of these new B737-300WL and -500WL aircraft base packs will support 2X 3D models respectively and as follows :- B737-300WL AIRCRAFT BASE PACK
- MODEL.733WL (featuring the standard modified aircraft configuration with the eye brow FD windows and winglets). - MODEL.733WLNO BROW (featuring the later modified aircraft configuration without eye brow FD windows but equipped with winglet). B737-500WL AIRCRAFT BASE PACK
- MODEL.735WL (featuring the standard modified aircraft configuration with the eye brow FD windows and winglets). - MODEL.735WL NO BROW (featuring the later modified aircraft configuration without eye brow FD windows but equipped with winglet). Winglet modified B737-300's and -500's aircraft (only) .... along eye brow plugged with -300's/-400's/-500's began to appear in from around 2007/8. AND .... that completes my own obligations (for now) re HJG supply in respect of all new work/files currently on-hand and that I'm (personally) responsible for .... MEANING .... those files which haven't already been presented independently and by their own respective authors. Not sure precisely when these will be uploaded .... but .... I'm sure the group will manage it sometime between now and this Christmas .... for sure ONCE AGAIN .... this thread is about "B737-300/400/500 ONLY" .... no commentary please in regard to any other B737 version/s. Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by alex94 on Mar 12, 2019 7:03:30 GMT
The classic certainly looks better with wl. How do these additions differ to the offerings by george arana and hiroshi on avsim?
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Mar 12, 2019 8:16:30 GMT
WELL .... it's like this. We/HJG don't design or compile in order to compete with anyone else. We simply do our very own thing .... and in our very own way .... just as we've always done since 2000. We're a "FREEWARE" group .... just having a bit of fun .... and offering a bit of stuff we hope at least someone else out there might have a bit of fun with also and enjoy. At best we can only compile and produce in accordance with our personal skill level .... as well as what we have available to us to be able to work with in regard to the like of source code etc .... and if we don't have the latter, then, regardless what we'd like to be able to do then we're unavoidably limited .... and people have to accept that, or, go and download something else We don't hesitate saying these new models are based on much older data than some of the more recent productions .... but .... regardless of their origin and chronology (these are "NOT" the original CANTU files, but rather, our own more recently produced derivatives of them) they're still very good models .... and they fly beautifully too .... and as everyone (whom wishes to partake of them) will one day soon see. It makes so real sense to compare .... simply because there's no comparison to start with Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by alex94 on Mar 12, 2019 10:16:01 GMT
And sorry mark, my comment wasnt asking for a comparison, i know thats not how you guys operate. Was more a question of what you guys have changed /improved
Regards
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Post by Erik Ingram - HJG on Mar 12, 2019 14:56:37 GMT
Just to add to that, Hiroshi & George's model set is specifically FSX-native, with updated animations and other features (meaning that a virtual cockpit can be added to them, among other things). The HJG set is not, though obviously they're still usable in FSX like most models developed for FS9.
Speaking somewhat off the record here, the main texture mapping is the same and the textures available here will work with the other models, though the winglets are mapped differently (and as I paint with materials supplied by Mark and Tony, I'm not offering direct support of anything outside of what is/will be available through HJG).
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Post by alex94 on Mar 12, 2019 21:15:17 GMT
In the 1.1 package they have fs9 models too. But thanks for the information
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