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Post by alex94 on May 28, 2019 2:18:06 GMT
Could any recommend a good informative documentary on flight 901 please, since mayday/air crash has never done an episode
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on May 28, 2019 4:12:06 GMT
I've covered Erebus quite extensively within my following linked posting .... tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/thread/7426/air-new-zealand-dc10-digestThe verdict is still hotly contested today (vociferous argument for, and against, the allegation of pilot error) .... 40 years after the event .... BUT .... what I've compiled is factual and based on the best/most reliable of known (as well, as a number of lesser known too) circumstances which conspired to make this accident inevitable .... the flight was effectively doomed before it ever left AKL. Within my above linked thread you'll find the best of available documentary coverage .... including a "scientific and psychological analysis" of why what was there to be seen .... was not/simply could not be seen .... due to the illusionary effect/s of "sector white out" in polar conditions. It's a very hard concept for some to grasp, but, the accident (as has been proven) occurred in clear air and not as a result of the aircraft being flown in cloud or otherwise impaired visibility. Also included are links to a 2-part NZ produced dramatized docu-drama about the investigation by the Royal Commission Of Inquiry into this disaster .... and which is also very well, and factually, presented too. Just sift through all the data I've provided. Mark C AKL/ NZ |
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Post by alex94 on May 28, 2019 4:14:02 GMT
Thanks for that mark  |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on May 28, 2019 4:22:31 GMT
See the 4th reply (approximately) within my above-linked thread .... for all of the documatntary and docu-drama programs entitlesd as follows ....
"EREBUS THE AFTERMATH".
"OPERATION OVERDUE" (trailer only).
"IMPACT EREBUS" (historical and scientific analysis)
There's quite a bit of data there.
Mark C
AKL/NZ
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Post by alex94 on May 28, 2019 23:02:52 GMT
I watched overdue last night, very moving and nicely put together. I do wonder who has or had that notepad. It was chilling to hear and see what happened
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on May 29, 2019 0:23:23 GMT
If you refer to the following linked video (another version of "IMPACT EREBUS" but with additional narration and scenes from the actual RCOI) .... and advance it to precisely "37.0" minutes (slightly before) .... then .... I think you'll have that particular question quite adequately answered for you .... www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP36X0BsMQ0"Certain people" went to great lengths to either seek, destroy, and/or otherwise remove certain evidence .... in order to protect themselves. It was s an "APPALLING AFFAIR" and one which still angers many of us even today .... 40 years later. BUT .... it also needs to be understood too that the airline .... back then .... was a state owned enterprise (it's not today) .... run by government appointees whom were answerable to the government of NZ .... and among whom the then PM was also none other than the airlines principle shareholder. The Hon Justice Peter MAHON pulled absolutely no punctures when he quite succinctly summed everything up within the report he released back to the government during 1980 .... as follows .... "The palpably false sections of evidence I heard could not have been the result of mistake or faulty recollection. They originated, I am compelled to say, in a pre-conceived plan of deception. They were very clearly part of an attempt to conceal a series of disaterous administrative blunders. I am forced reluctantly to say I have listened to an orhistrated litany of lies".And he additionally summarized .... "In my opinion the Captain, nor the F/O, nor any of the F/E´s made any error that contributed to this disaster. They were not responsible for its occurrence. The single dominant and effective cause of the disaster was the mistake by those airline officials who programmed the aircraft to fly directly at Mount Erebus and omitted to tell the aircrew. That mistake is directly attributable, not so much to the persons who made it, but to the incompetent administrative airline procedures which made the mistake possible".Attempts were later made by "certain individuals" to overturn findings of the RCOI .... with appeals going through the highest courts in NZ and as far as the Privy Council too and whom, without overturning the RCOI findings, commented equally succintly as follows .... "It is an understandable weakness of human nature on the part of airline management responsible for flight operations that they should shrink from acknowledging, even to themselves, that what they did, or failed to do, should be the cause of so horrendous a disaster". Airlines generally do not appologise in cases of accidents, but, almost 30 years after the event ANZ, then CEO'd by Rob FIFE, did publicly appologize .... www.stuff.co.nz/national/2993852/Air-New-Zealand-apology-30-years-after-Erebus-tragedyThis brought peace to some .... but .... not others .... only in the case of the latter probably things became even more uncomfortable given the now almost common knowledge of what was done by "certain individuals" back in 1979/80 .... a situation not helped either when, as recently as 2012, the NZ government declined allowing findings of the RCOI to supersede its own 1980 report. It's fair to say matters are still as "delicate" now .... as they ever were back in 1979/80 .... especially for those personally affected or whom, like me, "dodged the bullet" on November 28th 1979. It's also equally important to understand that ANZ, today, has evolved into an entirely different company .... as one of the worlds most "highly regarded" international airlines, as it now enters its 79th year of operations (1940 - 2019). Alex .... if you do have "a genuine interest" in precisely what transpired, then, I encourage you to review the above-linked documentary. Also .... watch the following linked 2-part docu-drama (it's possibly easier to understand this than scores of legal and professional aviation investigative notes). Although the following linked presentation is composed of acted scenes it "IS" entirely factual and almost verbatim "from actual RCOI transcripts" of 1980 .... "EREBUS THE AFTERMATH" (part 1 & 2 = 2hrs 34 mins duration/full program) www.youtube.com/watch?v=VImFx0GrjHEwww.youtube.com/watch?v=avnBAtLvVqYMark C AKL/NZ |
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