Need to update all models?

[ozflyer]

I’m a bit slow and behind, so sorry for this post. I have the -10 and -30 models I’ve downloaded before what looks like the Dec 2018 update. 
So do I re-download the base models etc? Or is it only relevant for the newer models (ER, F) etc?

Any help greatly appreciated. 

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

In regard to the DC-10's .... the base packs and panels were all updated during "DECEMBER 2018"

The gauges/core files for the panels was last updated during "MAY 2019"/last month.

All updates have been announced both internally (here at HJG) externally (via other FS community news services) at the time of their release.

The following data should help you considerably .... just make sure you're using the following version number files. If any DC-10 file you currently have doesn't correspond to these file version suffixes .... then .... replace that file. All of the current version umber files "must be" used in conjunction with each other. If you're not sure what you actually have installed .... THEN .... "replace/reinstall all files" in order to be certain


1. DC-10 AIRCRAFT BASE PACKS .... all HJG DC-10 aircraft base packs were updated during December 2018

DC-10-10 V3.2
DC-10-10(ER) V3.2
DC-10-10CF V3.2
DC-10-10CF(ER) V3.2
DC-10-15 V3.2
DC-10-30 V3.1
DC-10-30CF V3.1
DC-10-30ER V3.1
DC-10-40 V3.2
DC-10-40D V3.1
DC-10-40F (HGW) V3.1
DC-10-40F (LGW) V3.1
DC-10-40I V3.1


2.DC-10 PANELS .... all HJG DC-10 panel updated during December 2018

DC-10 PANELS GAUGES/CORE FILES V2.3 .... this file was updated during "MAY 2019"/last month. PLEASE NOTE: These gauges/core files are required for all HJG DC-10 panels .... ensure you have these/the latest version

DC-10-10 V2.1
DC-10-10(ER) V2.1
DC-10-10CF V2.1
DC-10-10CF(ER) V2.1
DC-10-15 V2.1
DC-10-30 V2.1
DC-10-30 (tape) V2.1
DC-10-30CF V2.1
DC-10-30CF (tape) V2.1
DC-10-40 (Northwest) V2.1
DC-10-40D (Japan Air Lines) V2.1
DC-10-40F (HGW) V2.1
DC-10-40F (LGW) V2.1
DC-10-40I (Japan Air Lines) V2.1


3. DC-10 SOUND PACKS .... all HJG DC-10 sound packs were updated during August 2018. PLEASE NOTE: separate FS2004 and FSX specific sound packs are provided

FS2004 DC-10-10 GE CF6-6 TURBOFAN (FD) V2.0
FS2004 DC-10-15/30 GE CF6-6 TURBOFAN (FD) V2.0
FS2004 DC-10-40 P&W JT8D TURBOFAN (FD) V2.0

FSX DC-10-10 GE CF6-6 TURBOFAN (FD) V2.0
FSX DC-10-15/30 GE CF6-6 TURBOFAN (FD) V2.0
FSX DC-10-40 P&W JT8D TURBOFAN (FD) V2.0

PLEASE NOTE ALSO: These DC-10 sound packs are engineered specifically for the aircraft type versions stated. Use these sound packs with the correct corresponding aircraft base packs and panels or audio problems will result.

DC-10-10 .... use GE CF6-6 audio only
DC-10-15/30 .... use GE CF6-50 audio only
DC-10-40 .... use P&W JT9D audio only


4. ONLINE/FORUM BASED MANUALS .... portions of this manual were last updated during December 2018. PLEASE NOTE: The forum based online manual for all HJG simulations are constantly refined and updated without notice.

DC-10 PANEL INSTALLATION & HANDLING NOTES
tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/thread/9147/dc10-panel-installation-handling-notes

PLEASE NOTE ALSO:This extensive manual contains almost everything one needs to understand in order to be able to enjoy these simulations to the maximum. All of the necessary information in regard to what goes with what, general installation, panel/sub panel descriptions and explanatory details for various systems .... including a number of different tutorials and basic flying guides are provided. "PLEASE READ/REFER TO IT" prior to seeking assistance


Mark C
AKL/NZ

[ozflyer]

Thanks! Much appreciated. I’ll check out what versions I have and download accordingly if needed.
And yes the manual does a fantastic job of explaining everything. Certainly one of the best FS2004 add-ons out there....and freeware!

[ozflyer]

Probably only issue i see is no avionics or air conditioning sounds. But apart from that it works well.

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

Yes there is

A/C and Avionics sounds "are" both featured as part of each of the 3 DC-10 sound packs we offer.

Shut down the engines .... either manually or automatically .... and you'll see

So .... you need to install our DC-10 sound packs in order to be "COMPLETE"

Be sure to install the correct soundpack/s with the correct DC-10 base pack/s as advised above .... as this audio is all customised in accordance with the different FDE based engine relatwed parameters.

So far as I'm aware though .... the "sound of" both the A/C and Avionics systems will reain "ON"/constant and can't be isolated/selected "OFF (per any switch) .... regardless of the engines/generator/battery condition set on the panel/s .... and despite the fact both that battery and generator indications, on each F/E panel, "do" display the correct indications for either systems "ON/OFF" conditions.

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[ozflyer]

I think I know the problem. I used the Cessna and shut everything off then loaded the 10 which was then cold and dark. Powering it up went ok but the avionics and A/C sounds weren't there until the engines were running.
So it seems to shut the 2 sounds off that way as opposed to doing it the way in the directions. Not an issue but interesting nonetheless.

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

Yes .... that can, and does happen .... as an FS audio anomally

Incidentally .... although we recommend loading the default M$FS CESSNA (or any other M$FS default aircraft) prior selecting one's aircraft of choice and in regard to our other simulation .... in the case of our DC-10 simulations only this "IS NOT" necessary to do this at all.

You can go straight to your DC-10 of choice

ALSO ....

During development we looked at the practicality of engineering our DC-10 panels so the A/C and Avionics sounds could be activated/deactivated per panel systems configuration/switches, but, I (personally) overuled it .... because I didn't want anything interfering with the configuration or integrity of Benoit's sound packs, so, I elected to avoid risking doing so again on this occasion.

It's a small infidelity (among very few) associated with our DC-10 panels/simulations, but, one that hardly seems to matter .... one of very few liberties I ever take in regard to FS development work


****ADDITIONAL INFORMATION****

Got a bit more time on my hands now, so, I can explain (as follows) what I meant above .... with a little more clarity ....

Applying any sound to a panel switch/gauge is "easy" .... BUT .... it then means removing that particular audio ingredient (which is in the case o these DC-10 simulations compiled part of the sound packs) from each sound pack.

The issue that then arises (for us at least) is removing the avionics and A/C audio from our DC-10 sound packs would render them "deficient" .... less than what we ourselves expect.

Doing this wouldn't matter if our sound packs were used with our own panels (where these particular audio ingredients would then be located) .... but .... in cases where people might opt to use our sound packs with another/non-HJG released panel options (and our simulation do make alternative FDE provisions for this), then, these/sound packs would once again be rendered "deficient/robbed of the desirable/necessary avionics and A/C audio.

The other option was to apply these avionics and audio ingredients to our DC-10 panel/s anyway .... whilst also leaving these ingredients intact within each DC-10 sound pack .... and then provide instructions for people to remove these audio ingredients from their sound pack/s, but, some people would only "mess it up" .... risking us losing time trying to sort out their mistake/s when/if they complain here.

So .... the decision was made (by me) to leave the sound packs complete "as supplied .... and to tolerate the minor infidelity of avionics and A/C audio being audible with our DC-10 (an most other) panels .... even if the battery and generator systems are disengaged.

Again .... it's "a very minor infidelity" (and we don't take many liberties like this) .... but .... one that otherwise "preserves the integrity of each of the principle files we offer"

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[ozflyer]

Seems reasonable to me.