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Post by alex94 on Jun 27, 2019 10:22:49 GMT
Being quite young I never had much privilege of seeing classic jets, with the exception of a stage II 721F (9L-LEK) I remember the insanely loud rumble and crackle most of all
I’ve heard a few particularly loud 737NGs (always louder than any other narrowbody and most widebodies too)
Always wanted to see an MD-80,I’ve heard it’s just a bit louder than a 737NG, which I wonder if thats due to further hushkitting internally?
A couple of notable loud bizjets too, citation II and Beechjet 400 (JT15D) which was nice
What are other peoples wonderful/fond memories of loud aircraft.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2019 13:23:51 GMT
The Rockwell B-1 Lancer!!!!!!
When that nuclear bomber flew 3,000 ft or so over the parade on the main avenue of the city that was celebrating Memorial Day, it caused rumbling along the avenue and caused ALL parked cars' alarms to set off blaring with blinking headlight and rear red lights!! People who were in bathrooms in their apartments along the avenue thought it was earthquake.
Regards,
Aharon
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Post by alex94 on Jun 27, 2019 13:40:04 GMT
Yeah ive heard/read many reports saying the BONE is one of the loudest aircraft. yet to see one for myself
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Post by canuck on Jun 27, 2019 16:48:47 GMT
Oh yes I saw one at Mildenhall when they had airshows there circa '94/95. They were not subtle. darn, they were good airshows.
Edit - just noticed that there is a corrective speech thing going on here. I did not type DARN.
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Post by Nathan Ford - HJG on Jun 27, 2019 19:32:48 GMT
A Learjet 24 drowning out a Qantas Pratt and Whitney 747-200.
But the most memorable was the Concord from a park miles away from the airport 😮. It was as if I was right there and all I could see was a little white dart streaking away into the distance. I also heard one takeoff from inside a 767 and it was still incredibly loud 😝
Nathan
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jun 27, 2019 21:46:49 GMT
That .... from my personal experience .... was very common of the JT8D-7 with the B737-200 .... particularly at near max powwer and on a hot day. Not a lot I haven't seen/experienced, or been up close and personal with, that's flown "here" since the early 60's .... but .... in terms of noise the B707, BAC ONE ELEVEN, and DC-8 (not the -70's though) stick out in my mind .... and more-so than CONCORDE. Residents near Hong Kong/Kai Tak and UK airports through the 1960's and 70's will probably tell you .... "the BAC ONE ELEVEN and TRIDENT" .... both powered by equally noisey RR SPEY engines. Pays to remember though .... the tone, and volume, of precisely what one hears can depend on both technical and atmospheric influences (as any scientist will explain) .... particularly the latter as "atmospherics" can, and do, play almost as great a part as purely technical influences in regard to all of what the human ear/senses are able to hear. CONCORDE was "loud" too .... but again .... under certain operating conditions it was actually "proven" that B707's and DC-8's both registered more noise decibels than CONCORDE. I laughed like hell the other day watching a program about CONCORDE development .... and which went into the US noise lobby against it during the very early 1970's. The NY Port Authority (I think it was) had installed noise registration devices along the approaches into NY/JFK .... and which demonstrated that whilst CONCORDE was "loud" .... other aircraft were almost as loud, if not as loud as, if not a wee bit louder than CONCORDE was. What really made me "just about piss my pants laughing" though was when a particular NY activist/lobbyist (interviewed in this program) was confronted with these facts .... his response was .... The airplane hasn't proven anything because "IT KNOWS" where the devices are and "IT TURNS ITSELF DOWN"  What a load of bloody belly rubbish  Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by alex94 on Jun 27, 2019 22:49:16 GMT
 Yes the early pure jet Lear’s I’ve read make an enormous racket! seeing concorde would be a dying wish. Yes you’re absolutely right mark, looking at some info that’s what the 727 I saw had. Commercial airplanes wise, it’s been my best catch to date. Later found out that takeoff would be its last out of birsbane as it was ferried back to Asia due to being banned for noise Thats very true. I was going to say in my original post that not everyone’s version of loud would/will be the same, but I thought that generally speaking most could probably agree on certain aircraft because they are just that loud! yeah some of those lobbyists are really bloody stupid and unfortunately it’s the stupid with the loudest voice that everyone seems to listen to. Back in the 70s in NY, when doing trials for Concorde, it was often stuff like the 741 and dc10s that produced waay more noise because they weren’t considered a “risk” idiots! 😂 |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jun 27, 2019 23:05:56 GMT
Nice HEAVY LIFT B721 image .... "The Racket Rocket" This's where it really becomes a generational and development thing .... because the JT9D on B747's and DC-10-40's, and GE CF6-6/50 on DC-10-10's and -30's, and even the RB-211 on B747's and L-1011's .... were considered "quiet/er" for the standard of their time .... during the 1970's and 80's .... but .... which is by no means the case today. Noise complaints from residents around me, even today, really amuse me sometimes Aircraft engines are definitely becoming "QUIETER" .... as well as otherwise more environmentally friendly too .... BUT .... as they become "quieter" the noise lobby only seems to become "even more vociferous". Just "turn the volume up .... I say .... in order to drown out the noise of the lobbiests/activests  The particular noise lobbiest/activest (against CONCORDE) .... to which I referred above .... made "A REAL FOOL OF HIMSELF". The like of it (being a lobbiest/activest) is often part of a personal road map or essential pre-qualification to being able enter local or central politics .... for some people .... to be able to make "a lot of noise" (to get noticed) .... whilst also having "no bloody brains at all" If some people did a decent days hard work .... then .... they'd have "a hell of a lot less to complain about" (in more ways than one) .... as well as a lot less time within which to be able to complain Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by Tony Madge - HJG on Jun 29, 2019 6:04:47 GMT
One of the loudest aircraft I recall and as I'm an old fart I have lived through the years when noise abatement was keeping your kids quiet! The AN-24 was the loudest I recall, the 1-11 and Trident with the Spey engine were incredible ear drum bashers as well as the VC-10
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Post by Peter Liddell - HJG Admin on Jun 29, 2019 12:45:30 GMT
One of the loudest aircraft I recall and as I'm an old fart I have lived through the years when noise abatement was keeping your kids quiet! The AN-24 was the loudest I recall, the 1-11 and Trident with the Spey engine were incredible ear drum bashers as well as the VC-10 I think you mean the AN-22? Because the AN-24 is rather quiet and small. The 22 and those contrarotating props will vibrate your brains quite nicely. I would say for me the loudest experience I ever had was a MiG 17 with full burner, but it was kinda a strange sound, it wasn't constant like a modern fighter or the B-1 more like a rippling crackling noise. My favorite loud noise was an Avro Vulcan... Howl and Roar 😉 And honerable mention for loudest at idle... Can't beat a RR Dart for that 😆 especially on a YS11, always seemed louder on those. |
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Post by alex94 on Jun 29, 2019 22:29:40 GMT
Man some of you are so lucky to have seen the aircraft you have. Especially the likes of the Vc10, Vulcan, 1-11, 707 and Concorde I know the exact rippling/crackling sound you mean. I’ve seen some YouTube videos that capture it well. Those early afterburner weren’t complex like today’s, they were on or off and you’d often hear a loud boom when it activated. F-100 super Sabre youtu.be/caEAHGJY5qsMig-21 youtu.be/MWmb5oEeWAMNot sure if that’s a Bis but the Bis version of the mig-21 had a super afterburner, sort of like those ww2 fighters that had war power mode and had extra thrust for a few minutes |
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Post by alex94 on Jun 29, 2019 22:35:23 GMT
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jun 29, 2019 22:37:34 GMT
F-15 EAGLE can really "knock the wind out of one" too under those same conditions .... if one happens to be close enough. During 1984 we had a US wing of F-15's based at RNZAF Whenuapai (a couple of KM's from where we live here), for a couple of weeks to participate in Exercise Triad whilst competing with the RNZAF's A4-K SKY HAWKS .... which had just been upgraded to "Kahu" (as we called it) standard with F-16 type avionics. I was on the perimeter road most days .... and well within 100 yards of these suckers when they went out .... and "JEZZE" one not only heard it, but, one also "felt it in the chest" too .... in fact it was almost like a decent punch .... especially given these things all departed in tandem so the effect was instaneously multiplied. Until one got used to it, if one wasn't already prepared for it, it was actually psychologically unnerving .... at first. Who .... on any ramp and up close and personal .... could ever forget those .... on F27's, HS748's, ANDOVER's, and the "whistling wheel barrow"/ARGOSY. I remember one day in particular during the early 80's I felt a stabbing jab/pain in my ear .... whilst in front of an F-27 at startup .... in fact I thought I'd done myself a damage, but, not so apparently .... HOWEVER .... after that incident I always plugged my ears whenever confronted with an F-27 or anything with RR DART turboprop engines .... lesson learned to say the very least. For me .... Favourate sounds/noises .... - DC-8 P&W JT3D-1/-3B startup (air assisted) .... see/hear in the following video "from around 1 minute 35 seconds" .... www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_USqwNZvoIThe suddenness of this one would really "WAKE YOU UP" if you were close enough and unprepared - B707 and DC-8 JT3D "rasp" (no/very little whine at all there) .... www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI3owgIj6zs- DC-10 GE CF6-50 .... probably "the most unique aviation sound" from the 70'sand until several years ago .... www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgIjfvOpLO4To me .... the DC-10 always looked good .... and sounded good .... and from a PAX perspective it flew bloody well/was very comfortable too. - And finally something probably very few people here, if anyone else here at all, has had a chance to experience .... GRUMMAN WIDGEON take-off .... www.youtube.com/watch?v=VinsHMCH_dwBetween 1984 and 89 I was fortunate to be able to fly on these splash-down planes (both the GOOSE and WIDGEON) almost every weekend .... with SEA BEE AIR .... www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJunmmcNBL0All noises/sounds now almost entirely relegated to "aviation of the past". Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by alex94 on Jun 30, 2019 3:48:55 GMT
Id love to visit Canada to catch one of their 737-200s
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jun 30, 2019 4:33:20 GMT
HOLY COW .... have you never been on, or seen, a B737-200 ? ANSETT AIRLINES OF AUSTRALIA had some during the early 80's .... one of which (VH-CZM if I recall correctly) was leased to POLYNESIAN AIRLINES during late 1983 or 84 ....    Here at AKL/NZAA .... we had B732's coming in, and out, of our eyes and ears al day, every day, from 1968 until around 2000 .... from the NZNAC days to AIR NZ, and not forgetting AIR NAURU (theirs were fitted with gravel kits), AIR PACIFIC, POLYNESIAN AIRLINES, ROYAL TONGAN AIRLINES, SOLOMON AIRLINES. Tell ya what Alex .... best B737-200 experience I can give you now is as follows .... a ride on one or outs filmed and narrated by my aviation photography and video colleague Paul BRENNAN .... with AIR NZ B732 fleet captain John PETERSEN .... AIR NZ FLT 651 ZQN/CHC B737-200 ZK-NAW(part 1) www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWau2l15CEAAIR NZ FLT 651 ZQN/CHC B737-200 ZK-NAW(part 2) www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdbYXosWJ4sAIR NZ FLT 651 ZQN/CHC B737-200 ZK-NAW(part 3) www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDGrMI_iaeQMark C AKL/NZ |
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