Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Feb 19, 2020 19:22:07 GMT
Every airline sends experienced pilots and servicemen to the manufacturer for some longer time to watch the production and the tests and testfly themselves the new "baby". If the bird arrives with so many problems the people who had received it should answer some questions.
I should perhaps have mentioned (qualified my remark to some extent) by saying that ANSETT (and AUSTRALIAN too) were goinng through a period of "major industrial disruption" at the time this happened (during the late 1980's) .... so what you state could well have contributred to the outcome, but even so, 110 defects on a factory fresh aircraft is something out of the ordinary.
Thanks GOD there was no operation necessary but I have to guard me not lean me on me left leg for some weeks to come. It takes time I have to spend in a rehabilitaion center.
I guess that means you're going to be hangared for a bit whilst undergoing heavy maintenance .... of the type that may even require a re-certification of both main gear struts .... right
You're very lucky it wasn't worse .... especially at your age Walter.
Best stay on the ground next time and fly the PC instead .... and not try to re-enact Icarus's fall from grace before the Greek Gods nor otherwise again try to perform the bird mans art without a parachute
A lot of us enjoy your presentations here Walter so I guess these'll help keep you remain active/keep your mind off things a bit as you convalesce .... thus aiding your prompt recovery
MEXICANA: It halted its operación 10 years ago after a Strange privaticion and a dubious bancrupt after. The Last President of MEXICANA a Sr.Azcarraga y big financial player was judged for fraud. Since then His lawers tried to free
him fromm chail and nearly succeded. The New government decided he has to remain there. The unions and the 8500 ex employees did get a late but still welcomed Justice.
Saw yesterday the chapter of "MAYDAY!" regarding flt Thai airways 311, which had some elements in common with MX 704: CFIT, highly expert Captain, he and his Co flew regulary to Kethmandu, complicated approach near to high mountains, bad weather and bad communication with ATC to name a few.
Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Apr 10, 2020 20:33:14 GMT
Thai airways 311
We lost a group of NZ'ers on that particular flight
Then, as I recall, within 6 months of this TG accident the PK A300B disaster occurred .... also at KTM
My understanding of the TG prang is it was a highly regarded captain (one whom looked to be headed straight to the top within the airlines system) paired with an F/O of much lesser competence and whom would (so far as the airline was concerned) remain "a career F/O". No desire to speak any ill of the dead though (pilots, like anyone else, are human and can, and do, sometimes make mistakes and not all pilots within any airline system make command) .... BUT .... airline flying typically requires good pilot teamwork with their duties/responsibilities overlapping each other, to some extent, as one crew member essentially cross-checks the other whilst "communicating clearly" between each other .... and the outside world too. In the case of the TG prang this sort of loop seems to have failed .... or become non-existent .... to the extent that the captain ("possibly" becoming frustrated with his F/O under the circumstances) was flying the aircraft, communicating with ATC and with his F/O .... and whilst also trying to input NAV data too .... all himself .... according to investigators .... www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cmNXm7Kzr4
Not a desirable combination of circumstances in what should be a good crew loop
Yesterday 4 of June 51 years had passed since the tragic events of flight MEXICANA 704 on the same day. Thanks to the post above I have read about Thai Airways flight 311 on July 31 of 1992, when a higly experienced Captain turned 180 degree wrong in a go around. In that case problems piled up also and as one investigator of that crash said: The Captain went over his high piloting capacities trying to correct the failures of others. Up today not so few people in Mexico dont understand what had happened, the official report not beeing a great help. But looking at Thai flight 311 one can understand, that pilots are humans and can make failures, which in retrospect are so unexplainable. Kind regards
P.S.: A Captain overstressing his capacities paired with a not so fit crew and ATC was also involved in Polish Aiforce 101 at Smolensk, ending up comunicating with ATC in Russian, flying a NBD approach without approach plate at hand and under stress to land with weather well below minimums having flown the last real IFR approach months before. In that case also conspiracy theories abound.