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Post by ozflyer on Jul 13, 2021 22:58:17 GMT
Or more specific, how to add the option of exceeding the maximum flap speed causing stress to the aircraft from the FS9 menu (resulting in a 'crash')?
I noticed I could lower full flaps on the 707 at 350 KIAS and even with the crash detection and aircraft stress option ticked, nothing happened. Is there a way to change this so it WILL cause it to 'crash' so to speak at a too high a speed for a given flap settings?
That way I can be more disciplined with my descent and approach by not rewarding terrible planning with putting flaps down WELL above the recommend speeds.
Any help greatly appreciated.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jul 13, 2021 23:26:51 GMT
FS is "GOOD"/OK .... but .... it's often not that good. Most CFG files feature a FLAP BLOW OUT speed that supposedly results in damage being sustained by any simulated aircraft if flap speeds are ever drastically exceeded, but, I've yet to see such an event resulting in such a consequence. The most I've ever seen as a consequence of such an event is significantly increased ballooning effect, as the the flaps extend, and as s a direct result of the greater flap lift at much higher speeds. Not saying it can't be done/achieved. Just saying I've never seen the consequence, but mind you, I'm "extremely disciplined" .... and to the extent of my not wanting o put myself in that situation .... even in FS Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by Nathan Ford - HJG on Jul 13, 2021 23:27:14 GMT
Too high, too fast, go into a holding pattern and descend and slow down. Itโs what I do when RCv4 leaves my approach until too late. Usually one or two times around the racecourse is enough to get you back onto a stable approach. ๐คฆ๐ปโโ๏ธ
Cheers, Nathan ๐๐
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Post by ozflyer on Jul 14, 2021 2:03:36 GMT
Yeah thought so. Iโm going to have to plan ahead a little better. Or a lot better. ๐
Appreciate the replies. ๐๐ป
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jul 14, 2021 4:10:38 GMT
I assume you're flying the B707's. "IF SO" .... then read the decent section (that'll be "SECTION 8:05" specifically) within my following linked basic flying guide .... tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/thread/9861/b707-installation-handling-notes. Following the procedures I've outlined will/should keep you out of trouble every time. "SECTION 9:00" of this same manual outlines a basic/recommended MGW loading, TO, and climb procedure for each individual B707/720 version .... AND .... "SECTION 9:01" similarly outlines a basic/recommended descent procedure and again for each individual B707/720 version. The recommended procedures for each B707/720 type are as good as I can fine tune them for FS (they do work .... if strictly adhered to) and "DO" also differ for most versions of these simulations. Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by Mike Monce - HJG on Jul 14, 2021 12:29:12 GMT
" Itโs what I do when RCv4 leaves my approach until too late. Usually one or two times around the racecourse is enough to get you back onto a stable approach."
Ahhh yes! RC does have that limitation. I really like the add on in general, but when it sets up for a straight in approach it tends to leave you a bit high resulting in a severe "chop and drop" situation. One approach in particular is coming into KEWR from the south to land on 4R. RC will start yelling at me, but I start the descent sooner than it likes. Still, the next best thing to a live controller. Vatsim is wonderful, but often there is not a controller online for the flight I'm doing, and the pay service (can't recall the exact name) is too expensive and only serves the US west coast.
Mike
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Post by ozflyer on Jul 17, 2021 3:34:06 GMT
I assume you're flying the B707's. "IF SO" .... then read the decent section (that'll be "SECTION 8:05" specifically) within my following linked basic flying guide .... tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/thread/9861/b707-installation-handling-notes. Following the procedures I've outlined will/should keep you out of trouble every time. "SECTION 9:00" of this same manual outlines a basic/recommended MGW loading, TO, and climb procedure for each individual B707/720 version .... AND .... "SECTION 9:01" similarly outlines a basic/recommended descent procedure and again for each individual B707/720 version. The recommended procedures for each B707/720 type are as good as I can fine tune them for FS (they do work .... if strictly adhered to) and "DO" also differ for most versions of these simulations. Mark C AKL/NZ Yeah. The 707's from here. Thanks, I've looked over it and will apply it next flight. I've got a habit of leaving the descent until a little too close. I'll follow the guide as best I can. Appreciate it.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jul 17, 2021 5:28:24 GMT
YEP .... follow those procedures. They've been designed around the performance of what we offer .... and which isn't too far departed from reality .... just remember though that this "IS" FS .... and that's what makes the "difference" Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by Nathan Ford - HJG on Jul 18, 2021 9:03:29 GMT
I have just recently purchased PF3 and am slowly tweaking my descent profile in the program to have me at the IAF and FAF on the STAR at the right altitude and speed. Iโm getting there and am starting to realise just how nicely all of the updates are coming along. I also have Pilot2ATC which I use with XP11 and P3dv4 which is amazing, but unfortunately doesnโt work with FS2004.
Cheers, Nathan
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