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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Aug 1, 2021 4:58:33 GMT
ANNNNNNND Alex (from "The Land Of Oz/Aus" .... otherwise known as "The Lucky Country" or "The Land Down Under") wins QTV STAGE III Hush Kits it "IS".None of the smaller DC-8-50's were ever re-engined with CFM-56 turbofans. Less than a handful of DC-8 SUPER 62's were either. Although economy and range of the few upgraded -62's was greatly enhanced once modified their lower payload capabilities made them (and the -50's too) less attractive candidates for CFM-56 turbofan conversion. The cost of the re-enginning program was high/prohibitively expensive for operators other than the larger/major carriers still flying DC-8's during this period. Smaller air freight operators in particular still found themselves obliged to make their aircraft "noise compliant" though .... or .... be banned from operating into the like of US territories within which noise noise regulations were mandatory. Some 110 DC-8 SUPER 61, SUPER 62, and SUPER 63 aircraft were upgraded to DC-8 SUPER 71, -72, and -73 specification as a result of the CFM-56 turbofan re-enginning program of the 1980's. More aircraft might have been converted had cheaper Hush-Kit and Quiet Nacelle modifications not become available as promptly as was the case and had the implementation of Stage 2 noise regulations not been extended until January 1st 2000. A number of DC-8-50, SUPER 61, -62, and -63 aircraft were instead modified with cheaper and almost equally effective forms of Hush Kits and Quiet Nacelle treatments .... among which the QTV STAGE III modification was just one, among a number, of cheaper options available to make DC-8-50, SUPER 61, SUPER 62, and SUPER 63 aircraft Stage 2 and stage 3 noise compliant. The particular HK's featured on these modes are the QTV type which were fitted to FINE AIR's DC-8-50F and SUPER 62F fleet. Alex .... you can pick up your prize (a small, but "FREE", packet of peanuts .... your prize for "observance and accurate guessing") from HJG reception in either NZ, Canada, or Colombia. You'll need to pay your own return air fare though in order to be able to do so Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by alex94 on Aug 1, 2021 8:44:21 GMT
you guys must have good sources, im finding it very hard to find any info on the qtv hushkit
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Post by Nathan Ford - HJG on Aug 2, 2021 9:00:32 GMT
Wow, love the stage III kits 🤭
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Post by alex94 on Aug 3, 2021 5:44:42 GMT
hey mark, any chance you could speak to paul and see if he could maybe look at the angle at which the engine attaches to the pylon on the jt3d long duct version
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Aug 3, 2021 6:10:45 GMT
As I related at "the very start of this presentation" .... Most of the original source code for our DC-8 models was "lost" .... years ago Therefore we can only do, what we can do, aided by what remains of it that we still have access to. The engine pylons on the currently downloadable V5.4 (old) models "ARE" an issue .... but .... as related within "the very first presentation within this thread" these details have now been "adjusted as much as we're able to do so" without potentially imposing other major issues upon ourselves. These particular details, on the "NEW" V6 models, are "far better" and about as fine as we can get possibly them. Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by alex94 on Aug 3, 2021 6:17:24 GMT
understood mark. sometimes pictures can be hard to judge by, im sure it looks great in the sim
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Aug 3, 2021 6:30:27 GMT
Sometimes FS doesn't help matters either.
Screen resolution/s on different sized monitors can, and often do, influence the shape and form in regard to how some things can look.
I see this here when viewing everything on 3 different PC's .... each using different size monitors and graphics settings/resolutions.
Try experimenting for yourself .... by setting, and adjusting, your screen resolution .... and you may then begin to see evidence in regard to what I mean.
In FS the shape and form of some things/details can also be influenced when viewed up close .... or from a distance .... and also from very oblique/acute angles as well.
BUT ANYWAY .... we were aware of the pylons issue and have "HAVE" adjusted/corrected these (weeks ago and as related earlier within this thread) .... "as best we can given what we currently have to work with".
Start getting too drastic with models and we're then potentially at risk of creating texture related problems and then having to completely "re-do" textures .... only given the enormous size of our DC-8 texture inventory (to date) that's simply not ever going to happen.
Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Aug 5, 2021 4:23:21 GMT
As this project progresses more "NEW" DC-8 textures will be produced (part of which is in aid of our developing "NEW" PSD files "for HJG team member use only") and presented within this thread. The first of these new textures is by Paul HAAK .... whom's not only undertaking these model edits, but also, looking at PSD redevelopment too, whilst also having a bit of "painting fun" himself whilst attending to both missions .... the latter of may be evident per his following "NEW" FINE AIR DC-8-53JT texture specifically for our "NEW" DC-8-50F HK3 model .... FINE AIR DC-8-54JT N426FB (2000)From memory .... the QTV type Hush Kits (as represented on this particular model and earlier previewed within this thread) were developed for the FINE AIR DC-8 fleet. Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by alex94 on Aug 5, 2021 9:35:08 GMT
Absolutely awesome work paul and nice presentation as always mark
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Post by M.I.B. on Aug 5, 2021 16:37:38 GMT
I reckon this project is just so representative of HJG - wonderful things and surprisingly deep progress comes out of so limited "raw material" they have available to work with. Those hush-kitted suckers look amazing, can't wait to spool 'em up!
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Aug 5, 2021 17:07:01 GMT
That pretty much (and positively) sums it all up .... Dorel's "got in one" Although portions of these models have been rebuilt, or added to, they can't be completely rebuilt .... (a) because most of their original model source code is long lost (as the result of an accident) .... and (b) if we were able to get really radical with these model/s then that'd potentially impact every individual texture we've ever released for our DC-8's but which is "a no go zone" considering how many we currently offer that'd then have to be re-released. So .... based on/aided by the "little" we have/that remains available for us to be able to work with we edit, to improve what we can, and in a manner that doesn't potentially wreck anything else, or impose other problems upon us either, whilst also ensuring these new models are "much better" than they originally were. A fuller disclosure will be made much nearer to the end of this project. In the mean time there's still "A HECK OF LOT" of work to be done .... and we never give away everything all at once anyway Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by Nathan Ford - HJG on Aug 6, 2021 3:31:24 GMT
Still happy dancing 🕺🏼🕺🏼🕺🏼 Might even have to stop flying the Diesel Tens for a while
Some amazing work being done here, thanks again to everyone involved Nathan
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Aug 7, 2021 5:57:46 GMT
We're already into the 3rd edit/evolution of our new DC-8-50F HK3 model .... .... and that's since these particular images were made a couple of days ago. Still "a bit" of work to do .... as time permits. Who's ever in any hurry anyway ? .... I'm certainly "NOT" .... and and nor will I ever be Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by alex94 on Aug 7, 2021 6:19:17 GMT
woukld be cool to get some images of the thrust reverser in action mark. i also notice some additional detailing like static wicks on the h-stab
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Aug 7, 2021 10:12:41 GMT
Only so much I can do whilst avoiding/not allowing FS or HJG to become my full time profession (no way that's ever going to happen) .... in any case I've already provided that particular imagery within the very first presentation of this new model .... and also for each of the other aircraft version/engine type specific presentations within this thread too There's "a lot" of additional detailing .... and also been "a fair bit" of reshaping and rebuilding (only in so far as such is/has been possible for reasons I've earlier stated) applied to these models too, but, as I also stated within my last posting of yesterday .... "a fuller disclosure will be made much nearer to the end of this project". What's been presented herein, so far, are just "very basic reveals/progress reports" only .... they're "NOT" the definitive product/s. The products featured per earlier presentations within this thread have already evolved more than half a dozen times each .... and this may continue .... as "WE SEE" fit to do so and until we're content with what we develop Mark C AKL/NZ
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