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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Aug 28, 2022 3:35:42 GMT
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Sept 4, 2022 5:45:02 GMT
A little more wallpaper relating to these "NEW" V6 DC-8 3D models .... this latest selection of imagery relating to DC-8 SHIP ONE 1958 and the DC-8-10 through -50 SERIES .... Although well explained (I feel) within postings relating to each of these DC-8 type models presented earlier throughout this thread what's less evident is each of these 3D models have since undergone "quite a number" of edits along the way, so, all earlier imagery (whilst still being a good indicator of the many improvements applied to this project) "is not" based on the latest iterations of those same corresponding DC-8 3D models .... whereas all imagery presented within this thread "since August 1st 2022" (from Page 6) is based solely upon "the most recent DC-8 3D model edits". As the DC-8-10 through -50 models appearing within "this particular presentation" can now each be compared together (per this presentation) some of the physical differences between each should now be more evident ..... and which I'll briefly describe anyway as follows .... 1. DC-8 SHIP ONE 1958: DOUGLAS livery. Pay close attention to the rear of the engines on this 3D model. Note the engine nacelles on this version (an earlier marque of the P&W JT3C turbojet) "do not" feature T-Rings/Ejectors. This model also has antennae on both wing tips. It also features the lower rear fuselage Air Brake door too (this animation is stowed/retracted in this particular image though). FDE-wise this DC-8 version is subject to a fair bit of drag and which does (intentionally) degrade its performance .... and it's also "not" reverse thrust equipped either. This simulation is supported by heavy smoke effects .... simulating engine exhaust smoke generated by the water/methanol injection required to boost engine TO power for these aircraft .... and is also additionally supported by its own DC-8 SHIP ONE 1958 panel and customized "no reverse" P&W JT3C turbojet sound pack. 2. DC-8-10 (-11/-12): DELTA AIR LINES livery. Again pay close attention to the rear of the engines on this 3D model. Note the engine nacelles on this version (a later marque of the P&W JT3C turbojet) "DO" feature T-Rings/Ejectors. This model also lacks wing tip antennae and the lower rear fuselage Air Brake doors (deleted from the DC-8 during SHIP ONE 1958 flight testing). DC-8-11 was the original production standard, but, upon being upgraded with performance enhancements these aircraft became DC-8-12's (those that weren't further upgraded to superior specifications .... as most eventually were). Both of these original DC-8 type aircraft were powered by similar turbojet engines as SHIP ONE 1958 but were equipped with engine thrust reversers. Following the implementation of performance enhancing modifications the MGW weight of the DC-8-12 version of these aircraft was re-certified for an additional 10,000 LBS. FDE-wise .... there's a significant performance difference between the DC-8-11 and -12 .... that for the -12 being superior. This simulation is supported by same heavy engine exhaust smoke effects as DC-8 SHIP ONE 1958 .... along with its own DC-8-10 panel and customized reverse thrust featured P&W JT3C turbojet sound pack. 3. DC-8-20/-30/-40: UNITED AIR LINES; PAN AMERICAN; AIR CANADA liveries .... in order of their above appearance. There's "almost" no physical difference/s between either of these DC-8 version 3D models and the DC-8-10 model (there are, and always have been, texture mapping differences between these model versions though, but, this information is only relevant to HJG painters and not the End User) .... save for the facts that the DC-8-20 through -30 models feature different versions of P&W JT4A turbojet engines whilst the DC-8-40 models feature RR CONWAY 509 fanjet engines. Each sub type among these series of DC-8's are assigned different/progressively higher weights and engine thrust (there being some 40,000 LBS of weight variation between DC-8-21 and -43 .... and some 11,000 LBS of engine thrust variation between each of these DC-8 versions also). FDE-wise there are "significant performance differences" between each of these DC-8 versions too .... primarily the influence of their weight and engine type/thrust assignments in conjunction with their to Flight Tuning. These simulations are also supported by different/lighter engine exhaust smoke effects along with their own separate customized JT4A turbojet sound pack and panel for both the DC-8-20 and -30 .... and customized RR CONWAY 509 fanjet sound pack and panel for the DC-8-40. 4. DC-8-50 SHIP ONE 1960 and DC-8-50: NATIONAL AIRLINES; CP AIR liveries. Pay close attention to the engine pylons on both of these DC-8-50 3D models. Focus upon the lower aft trailing edge shape of these pylons in particular. As should become evident when comparing these engine pylon details .... the DC-8-50 SHIP ONE (NATIONAL image) pylons and those of the standard production DC-8-50 (CP AIR image) are "different". The long and flat portion extending aft along the bottom of each DC-8-50 SHIP ONE pylon is residual evidence of the non-existent and sliding T-Rings/Ejectors track after SHIP ONE was converted from P&W JT3C turbojet power to later P&W JT3D fanjet power. Throughout its entire service life (until 1979) DC-8 SHIP ONE retained its original DC-8-10 through -40 type engine pylons (as represented on this particular 3D model). The engine pylons on the standard DC-8-50 model (CP AIR image) reflect the definitive production standard for all other DC-8-50 and the SUPER 61 aircraft. FDE-wise the engine thrust and weight assignments for each sub version among these DC-8-50's once again differ significantly (there being almost 50,000 LBS of weight variation between DC-8-51 and -55 .... and some 1,000 LBS of engine thrust variation between these DC-8 versions also) .... all of which influences performance in conjunction with their Flight Tuning. These simulations are supported by the same lighter engine exhaust smoke effects as the DC-8-20 through -40 .... along with their own DC-8-50 panels (separate standard and INS featured options) and customized P&W JT3D fanjet sound pack. Most of the above mentioned variations in physical details have "always" been a part of these DC-8 3D models since 2000/2001 .... although some details are new to these models. All of the features described are now better shaped/defined among these "NEW" V6 DC-8 3D models .... thanks entirely to Paul's efforts. The FDE's for each of these DC-8 simulations additionally reflect appropriate MOI adjustment/s also (in accordance with weight assignments) in order to create the right "feel" for each simulation and which ultimately influences flight performance .... thanks to the efforts of Mike MONCE. It's perhaps needless for me to say this, but, if one just loads these simulations into FS, but doesn't make any fuel/payload adjustments, and then just pushes their controller device thrust levers forward in order to make each simulation go .... THEN .... one's simply not going to realize much difference, at all, between any of these DC-8 simulations. However .... if one follows our recommended procedure/s, as prescribed for each of these simulations within our forum based DC-8 manual, and then implements these recommendations into their handling of each of these DC-8 simulations .... THEN .... one will/should begin to get a good/better appreciation of these simulations and how differently each one performs. Whilst referenced within above information the Panels/Gauges/Core Files (by Marco BALZAROTTIT, Steve WEIHER, and George CARTY), and Sound Packs (by Benoit PLAMOMDON) are the only elements of these DC-8 simulations that "WILL NOT" change. All above referencing to these elements is intended to communicate how each of these vital ingredients combine to complete and make these simulations as authentic as can currently be achieved. Remove any of these essential elements and these simulations simply will not perform as successfully. Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by hornit - HJG on Sept 5, 2022 12:26:41 GMT
Quite a few upgrades to those textures already Mark, lots of little details fixed up and some small enhancements to alpha channels and serial numbers etc.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Sept 5, 2022 17:21:00 GMT
YEAH I know .... I was anticipating that and certainly look forward to them Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Oct 20, 2022 22:25:44 GMT
Further to my advisory of yesterday .... since removed and replaced by this one The forum based HJG DC-8 manual has now been updated (reconstructed to some extent) in anticipation of releasing our "V6.0" DC-8 project. This manual is located on our "DOUGLAS AIRCRAFT SUPPORT" forum page .... or can be accessed per the following link .... tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/thread/8019/hjg-panel-installation-handling-notesGiven the extent of work required to update this manual in conjunction with our soon to be released "V6.0" DC-8 models I've attended to this task "early" .... simply to try'n avoid an end of year rush (given the nature of all other unrelated tasks needing being attended to before the conclusion of this 2022 HJG year) otherwise there's likely no way in hell I'd be able to complete it all in time. PLEASE NOTE: Despite any "V6.0 MODEL" references appearing within this manual these new 3D models "HAVE NOT, YET, BEEN RELEASED" .... we'll advise when they are available though All 6 sections of this manual have been updated. Panel description are "specific to each aircraft type panel" (some of this information may, at first glance, appear repetitive, but that's intentional to some extent, and there's enough differences between some panel versions that can/will otherwise trap or surprise one, so, it pays to be aware of this through the data provided). All original and supporting model imagery has been replaced with either better and/or new "V6.0" specific references .... and a few other minor text corrections and new additions have also now been implemented. PLEASE NOTE ALSO: A short "but not yet compiled" additional edit (in relation to "ADDITIONAL TEXTURE BMP's" that will need to be applied to all DC-8 textures supported by these new "V6.0 MODELS") still needs being included within the "AIRCRAFT BASE PACKS" and "TEXTURES" sections of SECTION 1 (only) of this new manual .... BUT .... in order to avoid any possible confusion this information "WILL NOT" be applied until release of the new "V6.0 PROJECT". At least I still have several weeks to think about how this other explanatory information best needs to be compiled All imagery represented within this new/updated manual is now no longer PHOTOBUCKET molested. Other than minor text related edits (where I've deemed such to be necessary on the basis of hindsight, experience, and/or in the interest of explaining certain details better/more thoroughly/simply) .... "ALL SECTIONS" of this revised manual remain 100% applicable though to each of our currently downloadable DC-8 simulations. PLEASE NOTE ADDITIONALLY: "At this point of time" .... no DC-8 Panel/Gauges (I need to check this particular detail however as George did earlier provide a "gauges only" .... not panels .... update), Effects, FDE, or Audio/Sound Pack edits are being contemplated. The "V6.0" DC-8 re-release is expected to be "a 3D model and textures upgrade" .... therefore "EVERYTHING" will continue to operate, and should be used, "precisely as explained/recommended within all sections of this new manual" .... or until otherwise further advised. Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by alex94 on Oct 22, 2022 2:35:29 GMT
Im VERY excited for this release
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Post by adjetsdes8911 on Oct 22, 2022 13:41:22 GMT
x2
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Dec 10, 2022 23:20:18 GMT
As from today .... "DECEMBER 9TH 2022" .... and after more than 20 years the "V5.4" HJG DC-8 3D models are finally FS history .... replaced now with today's new "V6.0" 3D models covering the entire DC-8 family and among which some "NEW" (not previously offered) DC-8 3D models are also now represented. The old 3D models still remain "the (copy right) property of HJG designers/authors" though .... and we do need to be clear about that The following illustrations serve to compare some of the most obvious refinements now evident among the entire HJG "V6.0" DC-8 3D model line .... in this particular case using the DC-8-50 (PAX) model with the very same texture as an example and from similar axis of view .... OLD V5.4 DC-8-50 MODELNEW V6.0 DC-8-50 MODELOLD V5.4 DC-8-50 MODELNEW V6.0 DC-8-50 MODELOLD V5.4 DC-8-50 MODELNEW V6.0 DC-8-50 MODELComparing these images one's better able to analyze just how "wonky" some features of the old V5.4 3D model actually were, and how much more refined some of these same features are now on the new "V6.0" 3D model .... and which is replicated among each of the other new HJG DC-8 3D models too. A number of parts associated of these new models have been "replaced/totally rebuilt/re-detailed and/or otherwise re-dimensioned/better proportioned". Our painters are also now becoming aware that some features of these new "V6.0" DC-8 3D models can also be "detailed" and which wasn't the case previously in regard to the old V5.4 models. There's more we'd like to have been able to do (of course), but couldn't, given the original model source code was lost many years ago .... and which then set the stage in regard to what we could easily achieve for this project re-release. With so many (well over 400) DC-8 textures having also been produced by HJG over the past 22 years (some of which will be "upgraded" as we advance into 2023), we couldn't risk implementing more advanced model edits that might bump these established textures either .... any more than we could hope re-do the entire HJG DC-8 texture inventory for more advanced models had such been possible. What's been produced, and is now available, per these new "V6.0" models is "much superior" to what was previously offered .... and pretty much all we're able to achieve given data we have remaining from the original project along with the need to (once again) avoid compromising our established DC-8 texture line. In summary the noses, fuselages, tails, wings, and engines/pylons have been refined for each of these new "V6" DC-8 3D models .... not to overlook certain models with new features and other more specific detailing too. For greater awareness in regard to this "V6.0" HJG DC-8 3D model project the previous 6 pages of this presentation make reference to each the said refinements and new features .... as have been applied to "each DC-8 3D model version" and as this project has progressed over more than the past year. I'd like to thank Paul HAAK for all of his effort/s applied under some extremely perplexing/frustrating circumstances as he's toiled to produce for more than the past year and what we'vefinally today delivered .... "THANKS" Paul Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by alex94 on Dec 11, 2022 5:46:50 GMT
Absolutely wonderful! Thank you to Paul, the painters and you mark
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