Problems with planes downloaded on HJG

[laurent]

Hello dear friends of HJG,

I encounter some problems with the planes downloaded on HJG

I followed the directions to the letter but no plane appears in FSX.

My configuration : FSX sp2 & Vista

I read this instructions tonymadgehjg.proboards98.com/index.cgi?board=questionsonfsxandhjg&action=display&thread=1662

1) Downloading textures
2) Downloading panels
3) Downloading b707_core_files.zip
4) Downloading sounds
5) Downloading base pack
6) Downloading effects

I have for the C-135A (J57) :

• Core: b707_core_files.zip
• Base: C-135 J57 Base pack
• Texture: texture.c-135a_usaf_1990_60-0377
• Panel: b367-80_panel
• Sound: P&W JT3P TURBOJET B367-80 (NO REVERSERS)
• Effects: HJG_Effects_Boeing_C-135

7) Extraction / installation of core_files
8) Extraction / installation of base pack
9) Extraction / installation of texture
10) Edit aircraft.cfg file by renaming aircraft.cfg to aircraft.cfg.bak and then aircraft_fsx.cfg to aircraft.cfg
11) Édit of aircraft.cfg
12) Creation of FSFSCONV
13) Extraction / installation of panel in FSFSCONV
14) Edit of panel_fsx.cfg file by renaming panel.cfg to panel.cfg.bak, and then renaming panel_fsx.cfg to panel.cfg
15) Édit of panel.cfg ([fltsim]
alias=fsfsconv\panel.B367-80
16) Extraction / installation of sound
17) Extraction / installation of effect
18) Installation of autothumbnail2.zip by Michael Heise from AVSIM

My .cfg :

[fltsim.0] // Change "xx" to next number in sequence starting from 0
title=HJG C-135A USAF 60-0378
sim=C-135A
model=
panel=
sound=
texture=c-135a_usaf_1970_60-0378
kb_checklists=
kb_reference=
visual_damage=1
description=HJG Boeing C-135A
ui_manufacturer=Boeing
ui_type=C-135A
ui_variation=60-0378
atc_id=60-0378
atc_airline=AIR FORCE
atc_flight_number=378
atc_heavy=0
atc_parking_codes=
atc_parking_types=MIL_CARGO,CARGO,RAMP
[fltsim.1]
title=HJG C-135A USAF 60-0377, Edwards AFB
sim=C-135A
model=C135A
panel=
sound=
texture=c-135a_usaf_1990_60-0377
kb_checklists=
kb_reference=
visual_damage=1
description=HJG Boeing C-135A
ui_manufacturer=Boeing
ui_type=C-135A
ui_variation=60-0377
atc_id=60-0377
atc_airline=AIR FORCE
atc_flight_number=0377
atc_heavy=0
atc_parking_codes=
atc_parking_types=MIL_CARGO,CARGO,RAMP

[General]
performance=Length: 152.9 ft\nWing span: 130.75'\nMGTOW: 312,000 lbs.\nPower: (4) P&W J-57's @ 13,500 lbs ea\n\nOriginal Design: Gary Carlson\n\n
atc_type=BOEING
atc_model=K35A

[WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE]
reference_datum_position = 0.0000, 0.0000, 0.0000 // (feet) distance from FlightSim Reference position: (1/4 chord, centerline, waterline)
empty_weight_CG_position=10.000, 0.000, 0.000
max_number_of_stations = 30
station_load.0=615, 49, 0, 0 \\ cockpit: Flight Crew and their stuff
station_load.1=15,46, 0, 0 \\ Forward galley
// -Cargo Containers-

station_load.2=615,0,0,0 \\
station_load.3=1230,37,0,0 \\ container 1
station_load.4=1230,16,0,0 \\ container 2
station_load.5=1230,7,0,0 \\ container 3
station_load.6=1230,-2,0,0 \\ container 4
station_load.7=1230,-11,0,0 \\ container 5
station_load.8=1230,-20,0,0 \\ container 6
station_load.9=1230,-29,0,0 \\ container 7
station_load.10=1230,-38,0,0 \\ container 8
station_load.11=1230,-47,0,0 \\ container 9
station_load.12=1230,-56,0,0 \\ container 10
station_load.13=1230,-62,0,0 \\

empty_weight=110525.000
empty_weight_roll_MOI=7837897.000
empty_weight_pitch_MOI=15313596.000
empty_weight_yaw_MOI=14379742.000
empty_weight_coupled_MOI=1300.000
max_gross_weight=322000.0

[fuel]
LeftMain=-23.362, -57.575, 9.056, 434.000, 0.000 //#1 Reserve
LeftAux=-11.462, -40.600, 7.306, 2113.000, 0.000 //#1 Main
Center2=0.788, -19.250, 4.681, 2279.000, 0.000 //#2 Main
Center1=10.413, 0.000, 2.691, 7271.000, 0.000 //Ctr Wing
Center3=0.788, 19.250, 4.681, 2279.000, 0.000 //#3 Main
RightAux=-11.462, 40.600, 7.306, 2113.000, 0.000 //#4 Main
RightMain=-23.362, 57.575, 9.056, 434.000, 0.000 //#4 Reserve
External1=27.213, 0.000, 2.691, 5800.000, 0.000 //Fwd Body
External2=-23.012, 0.000, 2.691, 8552.000, 0.000 //Aft Body, Upper Deck
fuel_type=2.000000
number_of_tank_selectors=1
electric_pump=0

[airplane_geometry]
wing_area=2433.000
wing_span=130.75
wing_root_chord=20.667
wing_dihedral=6.998
wing_incidence=1.000
wing_twist=-0.500
oswald_efficiency_factor=0.75
wing_winglets_flag=0
wing_sweep=35.000
wing_pos_apex_lon=31.000
wing_pos_apex_vert=0.000
htail_area=776.000
htail_span=45.750
htail_pos_lon=-76.917
htail_pos_vert=0.000
htail_incidence=0.000
htail_sweep=35.000
vtail_area=430.000
vtail_span=23.643
vtail_sweep=25.000
vtail_pos_lon=-70.250
vtail_pos_vert=5.833
elevator_area=194.000
aileron_area=120.600
rudder_area=73.100
elevator_up_limit=15
elevator_down_limit=10
aileron_up_limit=19.481
aileron_down_limit=14.897
rudder_limit=23.491
elevator_trim_limit=15.481
spoiler_limit=60.000
spoilerons_available=1
aileron_to_spoileron_gain=2.000
min_ailerons_for_spoilerons=5.000
min_flaps_for_spoilerons=0.000

[contact_points]
//landing gear
point.0=1.000, 41.167, 0.000, -4.400, 1874.803, 0.000, 2.136, 55.640, 0.897, 0.800, 0.500, 5.000, 6.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.1=1.000, -3.083,-10.917, -6.200, 1874.803, 1.000, 3.536, 0.000, 1.400, 1.500, 0.580, 8.200, 9.200, 2.000, 275.000, 300.000
point.2=1.000, -3.083, 10.917, -6.200, 1874.803, 2.000, 3.536, 0.000, 1.400, 1.500, 0.580, 8.000, 9.000, 3.000, 275.000, 300.000

//scrape
point.3=2.000, -27.750, -65.833, 9.833, 1574.803, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 5.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.4=2.000, -27.750, 65.833, 9.833, 1574.803, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 6.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.5=2.000, -54.250, 0.083, 5.167, 1574.803, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 9.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.6=2.000, 58.333, 0.083, 4.500, 1574.803, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 4.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.7=5.000, 12.167, 47.957, 7.642, 1600, 0, 0.00, 50.0, 0.0, 0.0, 1.00, 1.0, 1.2, 0, 0.0, 0.0
point.8=5.000, 12.167, -47.957, 7.642, 1600, 0, 0.00, 50.0, 0.0, 0.0, 1.00, 1.1, 1.4, 0, 0.0, 0.0

//CoG
static_pitch = -0.9 //degrees (pitch when loaded on ground)
static_cg_height=4.443 //feet, altitude of CG when at rest on the ground
gear_system_type=0

[GeneralEngineData]
engine_type=1
Engine.0=-17.417, -46.500, -2.917
Engine.1=-1.917, -28.083, -3.833
Engine.2=-1.917, 28.083, -3.833
Engine.3=-17.417, 46.500, -2.917
fuel_flow_scalar=1.56
min_throttle_limit=0.000000

[TurbineEngineData]
fuel_flow_gain=0.002
inlet_area=16.000
rated_N2_rpm=29920.000
static_thrust=11200.000
afterburner_available=1
reverser_available=0
AfterBurnThrustSpecificFuelConsumption = 0.5

[Reference Speeds]
flaps_up_stall_speed=160.000
full_flaps_stall_speed=128.000
cruise_speed=496.545
max_indicated_speed=375.0000
max_mach=0.889000

[LIGHTS]
//Types: 1=beacon, 2=strobe, 3=navigation, 4=cockpit, 5=landing
light.0=2, 2.939, 0, 0, fx_beaconb ,
light.1=2, 14.139, 0, 14.139, fx_beaconb ,
light.2=3, -28.656, -65.650, 10.036, fx_navredm ,
light.3=3, -28.656, 65.650, 10.036, fx_navgrem ,
light.4=3, -66.900, 0, 11.381, fx_navwhi ,
light.5=4, 49.900, 0, 11.200, fx_vclighth ,
light.6=4, 61.900, 0, 8.600, fx_vclighth ,
light.7=4, 31.300, 0, 5.400, fx_vclighth ,

[keyboard_response]
elevator=150.000000,250.000000
aileron=150.000000,250.000000
rudder=150.000000,250.000000

[tailhook]
tailhook_length=4 ;(feet)
tailhook_position=-15.0, 0.0, -1.0 ;(feet) longitudinal, lateral, vertical
cable_force_adjust=1.0

[exits]
number_of_exits=2
exit_rate.0=0.4 ;Percent per second
exit_rate.1=0.2 ;Percent per second

[Views]
eyepoint=56.402251,-1.563525,9.739993

[autopilot]
use_no_default_pitch=1
autopilot_available=1
flight_director_available=1
default_vertical_speed=1800.000000
autothrottle_available=1
autothrottle_arming_required=0
autothrottle_takeoff_ga=0
autothrottle_max_rpm=90.000000
pitch_takeoff_ga=8.000000
default_pitch_mode=0
use_no_default_pitch = 1
use_no_default_bank = 1
default_pitch_mode =0
default_bank_mode =0
max_pitch=10.000000
max_pitch_acceleration=1.000000
max_pitch_velocity_lo_alt=2.000000
max_pitch_velocity_hi_alt=1.500000
max_pitch_velocity_lo_alt_breakpoint=20000.000000
max_pitch_velocity_hi_alt_breakpoint=28000.000000
max_bank=25.000000
max_bank_acceleration=1.800000
max_bank_velocity=3.000000
max_throttle_rate=0.100000
nav_proportional_control=9.000000
nav_integrator_control=0.250000
nav_derivative_control=0.000000
nav_integrator_boundary=2.500000
nav_derivative_boundary=0.000000
gs_proportional_control=9.520000
gs_integrator_control=0.260000
gs_derivative_control=0.000000
gs_integrator_boundary=0.700000
gs_derivative_boundary=0.000000
yaw_damper_gain=1.000000

[direction_indicators]
direction_indicator.0=3,0

[SMOKESYSTEM]
smoke.0=-19.95, 46.55, 3, fx_hjg_b707w
smoke.1=-5.075, 26.60, 1, fx_hjg_b707w
smoke.2=-5.075, -26.60, 1, fx_hjg_b707w
smoke.3=-19.95, -46.55, 3, fx_hjg_b707w

[Flaps.0]
type=1
span-outboard=0.500
extending-time=11.000
system_type=0
damaging-speed=250.000
blowout-speed=300.000
lift_scalar=0.000
drag_scalar=0.000
pitch_scalar=1.000
flaps-position.0=0.000, 0.000
flaps-position.1=20.000, 0.000
flaps-position.2=30.000, 0.000
flaps-position.3=40.000, 0.000
flaps-position.4=50.000, 0.000

[Flaps.1]
type=1
span-outboard=0.500
extending-time=11.000
system_type=0
damaging-speed=250.000
blowout-speed=300.000
lift_scalar=0.500
drag_scalar=0.000
pitch_scalar=-0.400
flaps-position.0=0.000, 0.000
flaps-position.1=34.300, 0.000
flaps-position.2=44.500, 0.000
flaps-position.3=47.200, 0.000
flaps-position.4=50.000, 0.000

[Flaps.2]
type=1
span-outboard=0.500
extending-time=11.000
system_type=0
damaging-speed=250.000
blowout-speed=300.000
lift_scalar=0.000
drag_scalar=1.000
pitch_scalar=0.000
flaps-position.0=0.000, 0.000
flaps-position.1=5.000, 0.000
flaps-position.2=10.000, 0.000
flaps-position.3=30.000, 0.000
flaps-position.4=50.000, 0.000

[brakes]
toe_brakes_scale=1.000031
parking_brake=1

[gear_warning_system]
gear_warning_available=1
pct_throttle_limit=0.099976
flap_limit_power=35.00
flap_limit_idle=12.00

[hydraulic_system]
normal_pressure = 3000.0 //PSI
electric_pumps = 1 //electric pumps installed
engine_map = 1,1,1,1 //pumps on Eng1,2,3,4

[stall_warning]
type=1

[attitude_indicators]
attitude_indicator.0=1

[turn_indicators]
turn_indicator.0=1,0

[flight_tuning]
cruise_lift_scalar = 1.0
parasite_drag_scalar = 1.0
induced_drag_scalar = 1.0
elevator_effectiveness = 1.0
aileron_effectiveness = 1.0
rudder_effectiveness = 1.0
pitch_stability = 1.0
roll_stability = 1.0
yaw_stability = 1.0
elevator_trim_effectiveness = 1.0
aileron_trim_effectiveness = 1.0
rudder_trim_effectiveness = 1.0

[forcefeedback]
gear_bump_nose_magnitude=3000 ; 0 - 10000
gear_bump_nose_direction=18000 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
gear_bump_nose_duration=250000 ; in microseconds
gear_bump_left_magnitude=2700 ; 0 - 10000
gear_bump_left_direction=35500 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
gear_bump_left_duration=250000 ; in microseconds
gear_bump_right_magnitude=2700 ; 0 - 10000
gear_bump_right_direction=00500 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
gear_bump_right_duration=250000 ; in microseconds
ground_bumps_magnitude1=1300 ; 0 - 10000
ground_bumps_angle1=08900 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
ground_bumps_intercept1=3.0
ground_bumps_slope1=0.20
ground_bumps_magnitude2=200 ; 0 - 10000
ground_bumps_angle2=09100 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
ground_bumps_intercept2=1.075
ground_bumps_slope2=0.035
crash_magnitude1=10000 ; 0 - 10000
crash_direction1=01000 ; 0 - 35999 degrees
crash_magnitude2=10000 ; 0 - 10000

[Radios]
Audio.1 = 1, 0
Com.1 = 1, 0
Com.2 = 1, 0
Nav.1 = 1, 0, 1
Nav.2 = 1, 0, 0
Adf.1 = 1
Adf.2 = 1
Adf.2 = 1
Transponder.1 = 1
Marker.1 = 1

Thanks for your help.


PS : sorry for my english

[Dan K. Hansen]

Hi Laurent and welcome to the Forum.

Very nice info there. and it even shows that you've actually tried to read the guide! 10 pts. to you for that!

Your English is quite readable so no worries there.

Only thing "missing" is the actual path to the folder fsfsconv?

is it ..\SimObjects\fsfsconv or is it ..\SimObjects\Airplanes\fsfsconv ?

And as you haven't told us which actual folder you've placed the core-files in, there might be an issue there as well.

Otherwise it looks like you've done it all correctly....

But check your paths again, and compare it to what is described. I'm sure you will be home-free soon.

It looks like a simple path-error that's all. Nothing complex.

[ssp]

I am most anxious to see how this issue resolves as I have had the same problem with the same system. My system still does not recognize HJG aircraft installed as directed.

[Dan K. Hansen]

I am sure, actually VERY sure that IF you follow the guidelines TO THE NUMBERS! It will install just nicely. I have done it myself so many times I don't have a clue how many. But I can tell you that it works. I even took the snapshots for the guidance one one of the occasions I made a clean install. So I can tell you with certainty, that you haven't done as written. Even though you think you have.... but you haven't. The evidence? Well they don't show up do they?

Just lean to read, and read careful, then there will be no problems.

[laurent]

Thanks for your reply Dan.

May 19, 2008 10:48:27 GMT Dan K. Hansen said:

Hi Laurent and welcome to the Forum.
is it ..\SimObjects\fsfsconv or is it ..\SimObjects\Airplanes\fsfsconv ?

My folder is :

C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\FSFSCONV

My Core-file is "b707_core_files.zip" & I place "b367-80_panel" in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes\panel

My panel.cfg in aircraft folder is

[fltsim]
alias=fsfsconv\panel.B367-80

My sound.cfg in aircraft folder is

[fltsim]
alias=B737_800\sound + all files of "aeromusica_c-135_j57_no_rev" 's folder.

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

"LAURENT" .... unless I'm misunderstanding what you're quoting you should have the "sound" folder of your AEROMUSICA J57 N0-REVERSE soundpack installed inside your C135-A aircraft folder.

The AEROMUSICA "sound" folder is intended to completly replace the default sound folder contained inside your C135-A aircraft folder.

"IF" you have installed everything else correctly (I'm not sure if you have or not because I'm FS9 not FSX .... but .... I am 1 of HJG's 2 AEROMUSICA representatives) then it may be your choice of this strange sound aliassing option that is causing your C135-A aircraft not to be displayed within the FSX aircraft election menu.

I'm only guessing here of course .... but .... if such aliassing is incorresct or non-standard then that could possibly be sufficient to cause things not to display within FS.

Mark C
BOG/CO

[Dan K. Hansen]

Okay there it is....

either

Place you panel-files in ..\Simobjects\Airplane\FSFSCONV\panel.b367-80

As you see the last two folder names are the one you have in your panel.cfg.

There has to be accordance here otherwise you are pointing to something that doesn't exist and you can't blame FS not find what you think you've written ;-)

Once you discover the dependencies the magic is all gone and it's pure logic, right?

Mark: To my knowledge a wrong alias for the sounds files won't result in a no-show, "just" a very silent aircraft!

But if you have a wrong alias in either the aircraft.cfg or the panel.cfg, it is such a vital failure that FS choose not to show the aircraft in the selection menu.

[Tarasdad]

Affirmative, Dan. No panel or an incorrect panel alias is interpreted by FSX as the aircraft being AI and it will not be shown in the aircraft list. Missing or incorrect sounds simply results in a really, really stealthy aircraft.