Grettings

[alrot]

My Name Is Alejandro Rojas, I'm a humble designer ,And I came in peace
my english is not good so I'll ask you to apologyse me

I have use a Gauge from one of your members George Carthy ,I consider Its a great and beautiful gauge, Complex as the Boeing 707 itself.

Unfortuanly problems came up ,for reasons I didn't DEAR to Login here to talk to G.C. ,and i rather to save this and keep it for me but Tony and Mark C must know the reason..so I try to contact him by email.

I did wrong by posting that plane without the aproval of George Carthy, because I though to mention him in the read me file and also in my website's Download section would be good .(BTW I'm Also hosted By Simviation (Pete)

www.simviation.com/fsnd/Downloads.htm

I'm a designer and I made planes since 2004 from now its being 9 diferent models all with VC ..I'm 43 years old,
I have never made a Payware ,I have never earn anything material by making any of the planes ,and neither with this FSX-Boeing 707-420 made using FSX-SDK-SP2

I know some of you must be very upset ,and with reasons enough ,I made a mistake , a terrible mistake that won't happen again..

But the real reason was to use something wonderful and give the credit to the Artist who made it ,Not steal , No to brake copyrights ,I saw (My Wrong View) was a panel design for a Boeing 707 ..What ever George Carthy decides ,I will do it immediately ,Like to remove the plane until I replace the whole gauge for other ..
Please understand that I try to contact G.C. By Email ,and the email I got from Pete was wrong , The b707_core_files_v1.1.zip in the read me file there is no email ..

I'm not trying to explain reasons because there can't be ,what I did was wrong and I'm here as a friend and to faith the consequences,all I can say that wasn't for bad intention or gets economical benefit purposes in all these..

the model ALSO this model is not for distribuition ,only for Simviation and FSND
If you wish I would like this model you can use it also for distribuition.



















and this is the VC Using George Carthy gauge among other Gauges



my best regards

Alejandro Rojas Lucena

[George Carty - HJG]

Is there any chance of incorporating this virtual flight deck into the HJG 707 series? I think it still needs some improvements, but most of the work is already done. The main problem I see though is that the 707-320B-ADV and 707-320C would need two MDL files - one for the 1965-era panel and one for the 1970-era panel. (The 1959- and 1965-era panels could possibly get away with using the same VC with different gauges).

By the way, I think Sr. Lucena needs to install FSUIPC (or he's forgotten to include the intro gauge, which is needed to do all the behind-the-scenes stuff in the panel)!

Also, that aircraft is not a 707-420! (Looks like a 707-320B to me).

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

Alejandro .... bienvenido al foro del gruppo HJG y gracias tambien por su comunicacion con George

TRANQUILO AMIGO .... no problemo .... no te preocupar en lo que paso recientemente tambien .... todo abajo de control ahora GRACIAS A DIOS !!!! .... tienemos nosotros mucha de perdona ;D

Thank you for your reply here too George .... that's precisely the spirit of co-operation/collaboration I like seeing active both here and within the FS community so potentially we all ultimately benefit !

Can I ask both of you (Alejandro & George) to link together for the sharing of resources .... to see how we can make this VC compatible with the HJG product for the benefit of all whom might enjoy using such a concept.

Gracias una vez mas !

Mark C
AKL/NZ & BOG/CO

[George Carty - HJG]

I think we need who ever did the HJG 707 MDL files on board too (as these will need to be modified to add the virtual flight deck).

Alejandro, would you be able to do the VC yourself if I pointed you to the C source codes for the 707 gauges?

I think I've already spent long enough doing FS panels, and need to get a life

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

OK .... that's Gary CARLSON !

I can PM him .... but .... he's tied-up on USAF business until September .... so .... isn't available until sometime after then .... unfortunately

I'll contact him to alert him to the fact anyway.

Do feasability study in any case George .... if you wish to .... and report accordingly.

Would you be content with this also Alejandro ?

Just 1 important detail that maybe needs being borne in mind ....

"IF" this VC concept is workableand goes ahead in conjunction with HJG B707 models, then it will likely need to be for a selected few B707 models (perhaps 1 of each of the major class) only. I doubt that we can expect/impose upon Gary to modify more than 30 different/individual B707 models for VC .... depending upon just what those modifications entail of course.

Possibly (for the above reasons) the VC concept might need being hosted here as a completly independant project .... seperate from our other main inventory of BOEING aircraft type panels.

Those are just my initial thoughts for the moment !

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[George Carty - HJG]

Only 3 different VCs will be need at most (one for 1959-era, one for 1965-era and a third for 1970-era) - the only difference betwen variants of a single VC will be the engine and fuel gauges, which can be dealt with via the existing GAU files...

[benh]

Welcome Onboard Alrot

Man, this is like a dream come true ;D

HJG + FSX + V. cockpit............ Captain Sim don't stand a chance!

When you are ready to map the VC, let me know, I have photoreal cockpit details I would like to add, from photos I took inside N707JT, even carpet samples!

Rgds

Ben

[bretthenderson]

This would be quite a modeling powerhouse

Alrot is one of the ablest and most adaptable modelers out there.

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

This would be quite a modeling powerhouse

"YES" .... it would be .... if we can just pull all the necessary skill and resources together.

When you are ready to map the VC, let me know, I have photoreal flight deck details I would like to add, from photos I took inside N707JT, even carpet samples!

Thank you for that Ben !

Best you touch base with George .... and if you're willing .... supply him with whatever you care to offer

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

Only 3 different VCs will be need at most (one for 1959-era, one for 1965-era and a third for 1970-era) - the only difference between variants of a single VC will be the engine and fuel gauges, which can be dealt with via the existing GAU files...

YEAH .... but .... our individual 3D model files would still need being edited too (by Gary CARLSON "only" though, or, in collaboration with him at least) for VC's to be successfully incorporated .... would they not !

I'm very supportive of this VC concept (even though I personally don't really like VC's), but, I also think there's a lot more to it all (in respect of what we currently have and whhich then needs to be edited) than initially meets the eye.

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[bretthenderson]

Ideally, looking forward.. as we're over two years into the FSX era.. and a year or so away from the FSXI era.. the model updating would entail re-compiling for the "two model" (exterior/interior) format of FSX/SP2.

The animations are much more flexible and powerful.. the FX calls are more utile.. and the texturing potential is incredible.. especial the detail you can get from 2048X2048 DDS bitmaps, the spectral maps, and the bump-mapping.

[Gary Carlson - HJG]

Alejandro,

what platform are you building in (gmax, FSDS...)?

Cheers, Gary

[bretthenderson]

He won't mind if I answer for him

He's using Gmax via the FSX/SDK make-model. If you open his model folder, you'll see the two, seperate model files. The VC (interior model) is linked via the model.cfg file, instead of being compiled into the exterior model.

These are the only models that will display without issues, in FSX/SP2..