DC9 Panel Updates .... VERY SOON !

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

I've been so busy here behind the scenes (with other new projects ), that I forgot to announce "THIS" (which follows) earlier on ....

Thanks to the efforts and dedication of my HJG colleague George CARTY, we will, as part of our next website update, be releasing the following DC9 panel updates ....

DC9-10 JT8D-1 PANEL
DC9-10 JT8D-5 PANEL
DC9-10 JT8D-7 PANEL
DC9-10 JT8D-9 PANEL

DC9-20 JT8D-9 PANEL
DC9-20 JT6D-11 PANEL

DC9 PANEL GAUGES/CORE FILES

DC9-10 JT8D-1 AIRCRAFT BASE PACK
DC9-10 JT8D-5 AIRCRAFT BASE PACK
DC9-10 JT8D-7 AIRCRAFT BASE PACK
DC9-10 JT8D-9 AIRCRAFT BASE PACK

DC9-10F JT8D-7 AIRCRAFT BASE PACK
DC9-10F JT8D-9 AIRCRAFT BASE PACK

Each of the above DC9-10 panels now has the main panel located Slat lamp removed .... and .... each of the above DC9-10 Aircraft Base Packs now features FDE with all reference to the Slats now removed also. For this reason T/O and approach to landing speeds for all DC9-10 SERIES Aircraft will be a bit higher. The Flap setting for all DC9-10 SERIES aircraft have also now been adjusted adjusted to read according to the following detentes .... 0/10/20/30/50.

All other DC9 panels feature the following Flap detentes .... 0/5/15/25/40/(-50). PLEASE NOTE .... that FLAP 50 is available, but, due to "noise abatement" is not a common flap setting for just DC9-20 through -50 aircraft.

The DC9-20 SERIES aircraft panels have also been modified (these aircraft "are" equipped with Slats .... as well as a DC9-30 TYPE wing) .... with corrected Speed Book (gauge referencing) to negate the use of FLAP 5 for T/O .... since these aircraft (SAS configuration) were apparently never certified for a FLAP 4 T/O.

No changes are necessary for any of the DC9-20 Aircraft Base Pack files.

A new DC9 PANEL GAUGES/CORE FILES package will be released and which features all of the necessary gauges related edits for each of the above panels.

All folk (those wishing to do so) will need to do is ....

1. Replace all original HJG/HILMERBY DC9-10 SERIES Aircraft Panels with the new versions about to be offered.

2. Replace all original HJG HILMERBY DC9-20 SERIES Aircraft Panels with the new versions about to be offered.

3. Replace all original HJG DC9-10 SERIES (only) Aircraft Base Pack files with the new versions about to be offered.

4. Replace the DC9 Panel Gauges/Core Files package with the new version about to be offered.

PLEASE .... don't go running off to download these files now. They're "NOT" available yet. We'll advise when these updated files have been uploaded and are publicly available .... per updates to this notice and our next website update notice.

George .... please feel free to elaborate on any details I've accidentally omitted

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[almguy1]

Hi
I down loaded DC-9-10 files for DC9 14 and 15
for ALM PJ DNCand VIASA YVC AVR
The Panel installation says goes with Base Pack V1.13 only and these are V1.14 Base packs

V1-13 is Base pack for DC 9 30 so not sure now

I already installed once and my flaps only partially operate and the undercarriage will not retract on takeoff the flaps will not deploy on landing
Now I am reinstalling and ran into this problem

Can you list the matching main files I need to install for these aircraft to enable them to work properley
by version to get these particular aircraft to operate correctly.
They are amazing models and quite a thrill to finally get these two particular aircraft as I have personally worked the Ramp Operation on both of these registrations and also prepared weight and balance documents. They were flying CUR-KIN-MIA and RETURN
with Viasa flying on to MIQ
Thanks for your help
Dave

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

I down loaded DC-9-10 files for DC9 14 and 15
for ALM PJ DNCand VIASA YVC AVR
The Panel installation says goes with Base Pack V1.13 only and these are V1.14 Base packs

V1-13 is Base pack for DC 9 30 so not sure now

All DC9-10 base packs are V1.14 .... the recent change is because of edits that were made to both the base packs and panels for these aircraft (only) to delete LE SLATS which were erroneously included in the original release of these DC9 versions.

All DC9-20/30/40/50 base packs are V1.13 .... as per their original release.

The file version numjbers are actually insignificant .... provided one is downloading and installing what we currently offer. The critical thing is to ensure the correct aircraft type/engine combination base packs are used with the correct aircraft type/engine combinytion panels. Failing to do this will result in less than authentic aircraft performance as well as erroneous engine and V-Speed/ASI indications due to powerplant and aircraft weight discrepencies.

I already installed once and my flaps only partially operate and the undercarriage will not retract on takeoff the flaps will not deploy on landing
Now I am reinstalling and ran into this problem

No need to reinstall anything ....

What you´ve observed/reported is a normal consequernce of "not activating the 2 center "HYDRAULICS PUMPS" to their fully "UP" positions (located o the secondary engine instruments panel.

Pease revise the following manual extract for clear/precise information regarding this ....

1.2: MAIN PANEL - SECONDARY ENGINE INSTRUMENTS



This sub panel features the landing gear lights, landing gear lever, TAS guage, Hydraulics System switches and gauges, Oil Pressure gauges, Oil Temperature gauges, Oil Quantity gauges, Engine #2 F/F, Flap gauge, and both Fuel Used and Fuel Reset selector switches.

The Hydraulics System is of paramount importance on this sub panel and is located within the small "HYD PUMPS" section of this sub panel.

The Hydraulics System features 4 separate hydraulics switches. The 2 center hydraulics switches must each be set to the "HI" position. Failure to do this will result in both the flaps and landing gear not functioning.

It is recommended that the 2 center hydraulics switches each be "clicked twice" to ensure they are set to the fully up/"HI" position. When these switches are set correctly the needles on both Hydraulics Pressure gauges (located above the Hydraulics switches) will each rotate to indicate "3" .... confirming that sufficient hydraulics pressure is available for both the flaps and landing gear to function normally.

The Flap gauge is also displayed on this sub panel. On the ground .... keyboard command "F7" will cycle the Flaps, incrementally, through the following detentes and all the way down to the maximum FLAP 50 detente ....

DC9-10/15 "only"

- FLAP 10
- FLAP 20
- FLAP 30
- FLAP 50
DC9-10/15 aircraft are not equipped with SLATS/LE

DC9-20-50 "only"

- SLATS/LE .... see blue SLAT/LE lamp on Main Panel !
- FLAP 5
- FLAP 15
- FLAP 25
- FLAP 40
- FLAP 50

Inflight .... keyboard command "F7" will also cycle the Flaps, incrementally, through the to the same 6 detentes and all the way down to the maximum FLAP 50 detente.

Inflight .... Selecting "F8" will cycle the Flaps to the FLAP 40 detente only.

For environmental reasons FLAP 40 is the maximum mormal landing flap detente ever used on DC9 aircraft. Just as a matter of procedure.... FLAP 50 should be used on DC9-10 aircraft only.

During all approaches to landing it is recommended that the secondary engine instruments panel be toggled into view. This will aid viewing the Flap gauge when selecting flap settings during approaches to landing. It is also the recommended that the primary engine instruments panel be toggled back into view "after" selecting the final landing flap setting.

Located above the left Fuel Quantity gauge is "a small white left-pointing triangle". This icon is used to toggle the primary engine instruments panel back into view.

Moving along now in response to the rest of your query ....

Can you list the matching main files I need to install for these aircraft to enable them to work properley
by version to get these particular aircraft to operate correctly.

The following data will clarify things for you pefectly ....

DC9 PANEL GAUGES/CORE FILES .... to be used with .... "ALL" DC9 panels

DC9-10 JT8D-1 Aircraft Base Pack .... to be used with .... DC9-10 JT8D-1 Panel only
DC9-10 JT8D-5 Aircraft Base Pack .... to be used with .... DC9-10 JT8D-5 Panel only
DC9-10 Jt8D-7 Aircraft Base Pack .... to be used with .... DC9-10 JT8D-7 Panel only

DC9-10F JT8D-7 Aircraft Base Pack .... to be used with .... DC9-10 JT8D-7 Panel only
DC9-10F JT8D-9 Aircraft Base Pack .... to be used with .... DC9-10 JT8D-9 Panel only

DC9-20 JT8D-9 Aircraft Base Pack .... to be used with .... DC9-20 JT8D-9 Panel only
DC9-20 JT8D-11 Aircraft Base Pack .... to be used with .... DC9-20 JT8D-11 Panel only

DC9-30 JT8D-7 Aircraft Base Pack .... to be used with .... DC9-30 JT8D-7 Panel only
DC9-30 JT8D-9 Aircraft Base Pack .... to be used with .... DC9-30 JT8D-9 Panel only
DC9-30 JT8D-11 Aircraft Base Pack .... to be used with .... DC9-30 JT8D-11 Panel only
DC9-30 JT8D-15 Aircraft Base Pack .... to be used with .... DC9-30 JT8D-15 Panel only
DC9-30 JT8D-17 Aircraft Base Pack .... to be used with .... DC9-30 JT8D-17 Panel only

DC9-30F JT8D-9 Aircraft Base Pack .... to be used with .... DC9-30 JT8D-9 Panel only
DC9-30F JT8D-11 Aircraft Base Pack .... to be used with .... DC9-30 JT8D-11 Panel only

DC9-30 REFAN JT8D-109 Aircraft Base Pack .... to be used with .... DC9-30 REFAN JT8D-109 Panel only

DC9-40 JT8D-11 Aircraft Base Pack .... to be used with .... DC9-40 JT8D-11 Panel only
DC9-40 JT8D-15 Aircraft Base Pack .... to be used with .... DC9-40 JT8D-15 Panel only

DC9-50 JT8D-15 Aircraft Base Pack .... to be used with .... DC9-50 JT8D-15 Panel only
DC9-50 JT8D-17 Aircraft Base Pack .... to be used with .... DC9-30 JT8D-17 Panel only

PLEASE NOTE .... all of the above information is available per my "DC9 PANELS INSTALLATION & HANDLING NOTES" (our online/forum manual for the DC9´s) which is located on the "DOUGLAS AIRCRAFT SUPPORT" forum page .... or per the following link ....

tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=chat&action=display&thread=3435

I strongly recommend that everyone new to the HJG/HILMERBY DC9 panel series should fully acquaint themselves with this entire manual beforehand. These panels are the most complex we currently offer (initially programed by a long-service SAS DC9 captain) and one may be hard-pressed to understand/use them properly without basic/fundamental knowledge of how everything must be set up in order for them to work properly.

This should help you marvelously !

Mark C
BOG/COL