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Post by walterleo on Jul 17, 2011 15:45:58 GMT
I might add that I NEVER used inflight reverse except on training flights or in the sim. If they were to be used, a PA announcment was to be made. They weren't too bad on all BUT the -71s. With the bigger engines, they shook a little more. I feel it was just poor planning if anyone ever had to use them. Hi: Back in 1972 I flew on a EAL DC8 from Mexico City to JFK, on the descent to JFK they used inflight reverse and it was a tremendous racket. Don't remember if the use was announced or not, but impressive it was. Kind regards Walter
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Post by walterleo on Jul 17, 2011 16:08:05 GMT
I know the Comet 4 had a restriction where spoilers could NOT be deployed in flight without dire results. In the Comets they could use air-brakes in flight, what they didn't was use the air-brakes on final(which is dictated by flying-commonsense) and on the runway. The Tupolev airliners 104 and 134 could not deploy air-brakes in flight thanks to a mechanical guard only on the runway. There were some Tu-134 for export, which could deploy them. And the 124 had a brake shield under the belly, which served as a flap and a brakeshield, but to have the engines well spooled up for a go around, not for slowing down. And on the runway they could use a brake chute. The Samdim Tu 124 model can do all that very realistically. Mother Russia expected from her pilot-sons to stay far ahead of their mounts. AND: In the Comet using air-brakes while dumping fuel had unwanted sideefects. Kind regards Walter
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jul 17, 2011 23:25:16 GMT
Peter .... check your "INBOX" Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by Peter Liddell - HJG Admin on Jul 18, 2011 12:46:29 GMT
Yes Mark, thanks... keep an eye on yours tonight or tomorrow
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jul 25, 2011 5:26:56 GMT
Anytime your ready Peter Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by Peter Liddell - HJG Admin on Jul 25, 2011 17:01:44 GMT
Yes sorry... Life for me has taken a difficult turn or two (or 32...) over the last week... got some painting done last night and hopefully can finish her tonight...
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jul 25, 2011 20:41:10 GMT
No problem Peter .... just whenever ! My only concern was that you might have sent the file and that I might not have received it. Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by Peter Liddell - HJG Admin on Jul 26, 2011 1:44:09 GMT
Nope, not sent yet... finding a few bugs to fix every-time tonight too so I'm gonna sleep on it till tomorrow, not having a good night for painting, probably too tired *sigh*
Hopefully get her done and some more sisters soon!
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jul 26, 2011 1:52:30 GMT
"NO PROBLEM" at all Peter .... take your time ! I know the results will be "ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS/a real credit to you" when you are ready to supply them later on Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Aug 9, 2011 4:52:41 GMT
It's a combination of quality, variation, and authenticity which really help to make up any great collection of historic jetliners for FS. Apply the same combination of these 3 basic rules of thumb to those liveries supported by EASTERN AIR LINES operated classic DC8 jetliners and the HJG DC8 models .... and one then ends up wih is "ONE HELL OF A COLLECTION OF CLASSIC DC8's FOR FS" .... which is precisely what Peter LIDDELL is currently achieving for us at the moment EASTERN AIR LINES DC8's appear to have supported quite a number of different variations of livery. Some of these variations were experimental and short-lived ! A number of these were much lesser known and are therefore incredibly rare ! Each of them are truely historic .... as is the classic US airline they represent ! Peter has sent us another 5 new/different variations of classic EAL livery which were supported by the airlines P&W JT4A turbojet powered DC8-21's throughout the 1960's and prior to the type being phased out of the EAL fleet during the early 1970's. The following 5 subjects represent Peters latest additions which have now each been added to the above presentation .... with appropriately revised informative text as well. DC8-21 N8604 - Half Falcon livery Full Version - 1964DC8-21 N8613 - Half Falcon livery Reversed Colours Tail Logo - 1965DC8-21 N8608 - Half Falcon livery Simplified Titles - 1965DC8-21 N8610 - Experimental Livery - 1965DC8-21 N8612 - Final Livery With US Flag - 1969Many thanks for all that you're doing here Peter .... great work indeed ! Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by Peter Liddell - HJG Admin on Aug 9, 2011 12:54:30 GMT
The Experimental livery on 8610 was worn on at least the following types as well: L1049 (at least 3) 747-121 L-188 (2) CV440 and possibly on one 720 though I have yet to find a picture.
There is one other experimental hockey stick livery, some call it the proto-stick, that appeared on one 720 for about one month in early 65. I will be getting around to that one.
There are also 2 more variations on the half falcon that i need better references for to complete: A "Super flag" version with a large flag on the aft fuselage instead of in the titles A red-gold-white-gold variation on the tail falcon with only a blue top (no gold/white stripes)
They existed, but i do not have good pictures or confirmed registrations for either one.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Aug 11, 2011 0:24:39 GMT
"IF" anyone is able to help Peter with the photographic references he is needing (as stated above) in order to complete this project then please sign-on below .... or .... drop me a PM Any help. at all, will be very much appreciated Mark C AKL/NZ
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