DC-9-30 sound problem

[Lluis del Cerro]

Good afternoon,

Let's see if I am able to answer precisely ...

aerofoto said:

.... BUT .... whatever's causing your particular problem does seem to be localized to your own system/installation specifically.

Sure !!! I never said it was a problem with any of the aircraft components !!! I love those aircraft, other pilots in our VA love them too and I've been flying them for years with a lot of fun and without problems as far as I remember.

aerofoto said:

Just quickly reviewing the very basic facts as recently communicated by you .... and then re clarified by me ....

aerofoto said:

... "PRIOR" to whatever happened to result in your, apparently, needing to format your system and impose re installation of the DC9 simulation.

As said answering Dan's post, the reason was a software conflict with Nvidia graphic driver update.

aerofoto said:

So then .... "SOMETHING" has obviously happened/gone very wrong "SOMEWHERE" between then and now .... and I'm certain "THERE-IN" (your reformat and reinstallation) is, possibly, where part of your problem (if not the entirety of it) is/may be located.

Most likely. As I said on top, I never thought this is because a problem with any of the aircraft components. I must say in my defence, however, that in real life I am a scientist and use to write down precisely all the steps I do when performing any operation. This is why I can format and reinstall all my software very rapidly and precisely, and the same goes to the FS2004 where everything is noted, followed and amended if I find a better way to do any process. Also, I follow strictly all installation procedures given by the developer. In this case, the only different thing I did in the installation process you quote is that I first installed the core files of the panel and then the panel itself in the "fsfconv" folder. However, there should be no differences in performance due to this "alternative" installation.

aerofoto said:

Out of "pure curiosity" .... I'd also like to see a JPEG image showing me the contents of your DC9 aircraft base pack .... which may also help

Sorry, but I have no idea on how to paste an image here. I'll have to study the procedure and will paste it in a new message as soon as I know it. :-(

aerofoto said:

With the exception of any possible (but extremely rare .... in fact I've never know of this happening) system specific incompatibility .... it's usually only when the recommended installation procedures are circumvented (I'm not suggesting you've done this, but, it does need being explored), or otherwise misunderstood, that any issues, at all, start to arise.

Once again, I assume that any fault is mine but I think I did it precisely following the individual "installation.txt" files in any zip file. However, I am human ...

aerofoto said:

The HJG DC9 simulations are not new .... and they were "EACH" extremely well tested over a very long period (more than a year) prior to their actual public release here .... and they've all become even better understood with the passage of time and over the past 3 years since.

Absolutely agree. As said, I am one of your biggest fans.

aerofoto said:

It's very unusual for HJG to not be able to put a finger on (or resolve) whatever might be going on/wrong, but, your experience, does seem to be a particularly unusual (previously unheard of) problem???

Again, thank you for your time and interest. I will upload the image of my DC93 folder and will post it as soon as I know how to do it. However, I am sorry for bothering you with this problem and I would like to ask you to leave it. I will try to solve it by myself or perhaps one day it solves without "external" action. I have already reinstalled and uninstalled it for three times and though I am a registered user of AOM, I do not trust it for removing all the files that are copied during the install of this aircraft.

A big thank for your effort,

Lluis

[Lluis del Cerro]

Good afternoon again,

It appears that to post an image here I need to previously upload it to any server and unfortunately I have no one. I have attached the JPG image instead and I hope it works.

The only texture I have is the "Catalonian Airlines" that I did some months ago. The file "Aircraft_cfg_original" is the copy of the original aircraft.cfg file that comes with the pak. The only difference of the working aircraft.cfg file is that this one has the [flightsim.0] of the "cat_2010" texture installed.

That's all.

Thanks,

Lluis

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

There's not anything more (of value) that I can really add to this thread and beyond what I've already communicated .... I regret to say .... other than offering the following (last) "SUGGESTION" ....

I wonder "IF" an audio fade-out could, possibly, occur .... in cases of on-board sound chips in particular .... "IF" something was being overloaded to the extent that it might restrict its audio playback capability .... thereby dropping what it can't handle in terms of sound playback from a certain point !!!!

Why anything like this should happen in the case of the DC9 ("on your system" only it seems) .... "I KNOW NOT".

All I can say with certainty is ....

The HJG DC9 simulation (including the recommended panels) is "in the clear" .... as are the 3 DC9 sound packs also.

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[Lluis del Cerro]

Hello,

Back again trying to solve this problem and with some more information ...

I have installed the L101 and I always come back to pending issues just in case the problems solve without external input and I have gone again to the DC93.

Unfortunately, I am still at the same place but I realise that what seems to be lost is the idle soud of the engine. When I move the throttle levers, the engines spool up and when the levers are placed back in idle position, the engines spool down and then the sound is cut without hearing the typical idle sound of the engines.

I have also realised that when I deploy the flaps on the ground prior to taxi for departure, I cannot hear any sound while the flaps are deploying.

Finally, today I have experienced something that happened to me sometimes before and for which I have no explanation: when I take off and once safely airborne I click on the autopilot lever, it does not move and I cannot engage it. Nothing in the autopilot can be enganged, even the radio channels. Of course, my generators are on, hydraulics too, etc. I follow the checklist as usual but sometimes I cannot engage the autopilot.

Just an update and I am sure someday I will find the solution.

Best regards,

Lluís

[Falcon]

Sometimes I have incurred sound problems with the RealTech Audio Managment. I have to open up the file and change the settings back to where they are suppose to be. Don't know how they change but the do. It affects all sounds tho, not just one a/c.

[Lluis del Cerro]

Hi,

falcon said:

Sometimes I have incurred sound problems with the RealTech Audio Managment.

I have read that sometimes and in some systems, the 5.1 configuration of sound cards mute the sounds. This seems to happen with the Fokkers from Project Fokker Jetliners and it happens to me now with their models F70 and F100. It never happened to me before although I have been using 5.1 cards for many years and with those aircraft. I also use the F28 from PFJ and no problems at all.

If I set the card as stereo, load the aircraft and then set the card to 5.1 everything works perfect.

falcon said:

I have to open up the file and change the settings back to where they are suppose to be.

Could you explain more in detail? You may have the solution to my problem but I need some more information to start with.

Thanks in advance,

Lluís

[Dan K. Hansen]

Try to set the Sound quality to Medium, instead of High ....
You might also want to re-check your sound folder with the sound package downloaded here, and double/triple check that all the wav-files are indeed in the right folders, and in consistency with the paths mentioned in the sound.cfg file ....

Regarding not able to select anything .... several checks ...:
Are your Avionics on? I've aliased mine to CTRL-A, as many aircraft does not have an Avionics ON button. ....
Are you running FSUIPC ... it may/may not interfere with nothing and anything in FS9. Some installers/modellers include their own version of the FSUIPC.dll, others get it directly from Peter Dawson's site .... some have a registered version, others not ....Some have the very latest version, others an old version.... Personally I walk far away from this "wonder tool" but of course that is my own preference, I can live without the "must haves" it provides and gives access to ....
Well..... I think that was it for this time ...

[Lluis del Cerro]

Good evening gents,

Problem solved !!

dankh said:

Try to set the Sound quality to Medium, instead of High ....
You might also want to re-check your sound folder with the sound package downloaded here, and double/triple check that all the wav-files are indeed in the right folders, and in consistency with the paths mentioned in the sound.cfg file ....

Thank you Dan, I downloaded the same files from HJG site once again and re-installed everything without success.

Before setting my FS9 sound quality to "medium" I tried what I explained in my post of April 6th for the PFJ F70/100 and I set my sound card from "5.1" to "stereo" and everything worked perfectly.

Do not ask me for anything else on what I did. I have always used two 5.1 soundcards for flight simulation: one for the FS9 sounds (5.1 with 7 loudspeakers) and another one with microphone and headphones for communications with controllers. Of course, when I control I only use the second sound card.

With this configuration I never had any problem with sounds and I always enjoyed the 16 cylinder twin wasp sound of the MAAM DC3, and Jens B. Kristensen DC4 and DC6.

So, when flying the HJG DC93 and PFJ F70/100, I must remember to set my sound card to "stereo". I will later try if I can run the DC93 and then return the sound card to "5.1".

dankh said:

Regarding not able to select anything .... several checks ...: Are your Avionics on?

As far as I know, there is no "avionics" swith in this aircraft. I turned it on thanks to the ATN gauge.

dankh said:

Are you running FSUIPC ... it may/may not interfere with nothing and anything in FS9. Some installers/modellers include their own version of the FSUIPC.dll, others get it directly from Peter Dawson's site .... some have a registered version, others not ....Some have the very latest version, others an old version.... Personally I walk far away from this "wonder tool" but of course that is my own preference, I can live without the "must haves" it provides and gives access to ....
Well..... I think that was it for this time ...

Yes, I always run FSUIPC in a registered version. It is a wonderful tool which allows me to use many other add-ons and also configure very accurately hardware like the yoke, pedals and throtle specyphically for each aircraft.

Thanks to all for your help and support and to HJG for those wonderful aircraft!!

Best regards,

Lluís

[Dan K. Hansen]

Good to know, thank you vm for the response!