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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jan 4, 2014 20:30:17 GMT
I could release it .... "provided I can get authorization to do so from the original texture artist whose EAL base textures we used".Not bothering to do this .... because I thought interest in this particular subject would probably be limited considering it did support EAL livery, and with dual registrations, but, never actually flew commercially as such .... is actually the only reason why this particular texture has, to date, never been publicly released This texture was really done for me/myself (only) out of private interest in this particdular aircraft .... in as much as also to gain experience using the POSKY B747-100/200 PSD files in advance of several AIR PACIFIC liveries which we "DID" release for the POSKY B747-100 and -200 3D models. Even if that were so .... I'm still beginning to "suspect" that the DC8's were used, by AA, probably for freight hauling only (I think those acquired and then later disposed of by AA during the early 1970's) were, by the late 1970's, already working as freighters anyway. And again .... we do know, for sure (on the basis of last years "off-forum presented evidence") that "NONE" of these DC8's leased by AA during the 1979 DC10 grounding were ever repainted or otherwise branded with AA livery/name. They remained in the indentity of their respective owner/operators (as I've mentioned previously) .... being, essentially, wet-leases only in order to aid the airline through the 1979 DC10 crisis. Just what other aircraft types might have covered PAX operations during this time .... and where they came from .... I wouldn't have a clue .... BUT .... I don't (now) believe any DC8's were used to fulfill this capacity on behalf of AA. Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by Benoit - HJG on Jan 5, 2014 21:19:44 GMT
During the DC-10 grounding, American Airlines had already received 31 DC-10-10s, N101AA thru N131AA, with N132AA thru N135AA still on the production line...
At no time did AA ever sub-leased or sub-charted any other aircraft to cover the loss of the DC-10 routes. Instead, they ended up reducing services to free up some aircrafts in order to re-allocate them to cover for some transcon routes with B707-123s/-323s and B727-123s/-223s. The B747-123s were used primarily on the Hawaii routes to cover for the DC-10s. The freighter aircraft schedule wasn't affected that much, they had aprox 12 B707-323CF (convertible freighters) and 6 B747-123SCDs (side cargo doors) at the time.
Benoit
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jan 5, 2014 23:17:17 GMT
OK .... "GOT IT" now. "THANKS" for doing that Benoit .... this re-clarification. Those DC8's inherited by AA, from TCA, were initially leased out .... then onsold sold .... and they never returned to AA afterward. Nor were any DC8's leased in by AA during the 1979 FAA DC10 grounding either .... instead the airlines remaining B707's, B727's, and B747's filled filled-in where necessary. Trust Benoit folks .... because he knows his stuff/history .... and .... "HAS" researched these details "quite well" Even from my very own perspective (and I too, like many, obviously, was once, "a firm believer" .... in the AA DC8 operations concept) .... this particular thread "does" go to show how even just a little information/knowledge (propogated in this case by AA's early 1970's TCA acquisition), and then mere suggestion of a possibility (later DC8 leasing by AA) can, and has, led to a lot of confusion/misinterpretation .... even for me "THANKS" again Benoit I still wonder though .... even now .... exactly what the hell was it, that I saw a part of, sticking out/up from behind one of the AA jetways, at LAX, very late on the afternoon of April 29th 1980 .... whilst I was waiting to board an AF B747 flight to Paris/CDG. It's one of those "great aviation mysteries" that's haunted me ever since .... as, I guess, it'll continue to do so, for a very long while to come Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by Benoit - HJG on Jan 6, 2014 0:47:48 GMT
My pleasure Mark... Yes I did a little digging around... American Airlines acquired Trans Caribbean Airways so it could gain access to Caribbean routes. In addition to New York-San Juan, it was then able to operate services to Curacao, Aruba, St. Thomas, St. Croix and Port Au Prince, they had no interest in any of the DC-8s that came as part of the buy out and they were all leased/sold. You mean your eyes played a trick on you? American did have some B707-123s without the HF antenna at the top front part of it's vertical tail... www.airliners.net/photo/American-Airlines/Boeing-707-123B/0865649/L/&sid=567e800434e2820251907b3c9f57eb2aBenoit
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