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Post by joscyriac on Aug 2, 2015 15:33:24 GMT
Hello.
Has anyone integrated the civa ins gauges with the HJG DC-10 panel? I would like to do so but I've not much idea doing it.
Thanks in advance.
Cyriac
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Aug 2, 2015 20:18:49 GMT
It probably can be done (based on instructions which download with that gauge) .... BUT .... the CIVA INS isn't an HJG product and is therefore not supported or endorsed by us.
Our current range of DC10 panel represent "our first generation of these" .... in that although what's currently represented features a number improvements (including aircraft type gear indications and engine type specific calibbrated engine gauges too) over the original single panel, we do intend to try'n further advance these .... as we can .... to include FSX adaptability .... and also .... a more sophisticated DC10 type AP (those responsibnle are currently analysing RW DC10 manual extracts at the moment for this purpose) and which will also, then, hopefully, result in the inclusion of our own/George CARTY's INS system too .... similar to that alrady featured within our L1011 panels. No time frame on any of this though since it requires a lot of study, and work, and pre-release testing.
Mark C
AKL/NZ
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Post by joscyriac on Aug 3, 2015 4:11:27 GMT
Oh Thank you Mark C. Yes i understand CIVA is not supported by HJG. It would be cool to have George Carty's INS along with the DC-10. That's a fine product as well.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Aug 3, 2015 4:18:17 GMT
We'll see what we can do  Employing our INS would impose an AP change .... but .... that's a good thing (and was always planned anyway) because the DC10 panels "ARE" in need something of an L1011-like AP and INS sophistication. Mark C AJKL/NZ |
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Post by claudiofalcao on Aug 19, 2019 17:01:01 GMT
Hi guys! This is my first time here.
About the MSU. The knob doesn't turn to stdby position, neither on DC-10 or L-1011. Should I need do any specific procedure before to turn the knob to stdby position?
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Post by tokolosh on Aug 19, 2019 18:14:50 GMT
Hi Cyriac, I integrated CIVA into this panel before it got reworked by George Carty for HJG. I never actually tried it though, but if you want the settings I can send them to you.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Aug 20, 2019 0:19:40 GMT
When George reworkd the DC-10 panels he installd his own INA NAV system into the new panels we currently offer. This system workjs similarly to th CIVA .... so .... texchnicvally speaking there´s no need to integrate the CIVA and which I can´t guyaruntee will work with our DC-10 (and L-1011) panel AP programing. "IF" .... anyone does decide to modify the panels we provide by replacing our own INS wfort the CIVA version .... then firstly they can do that if they wish .... but sencomdly, and in doing so, they alo need to ujnderstand we can´t then provide support for it/the CIVA .... since it´s not part of te stock we offer and provide support for. I can´t answer the supposed "STBY" detent issue apparently associated with the DC-10 and L-1011 panels MSU .... I need George to do that .... since INS NAV, in those of our panels whih are equipped with it, is the only feature I´m still not, yet, fully conversant with Mark C BOG/CO |
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Post by George Carty - HJG on Aug 20, 2019 8:04:49 GMT
You'll need to hold down the left mouse button for just over a second when changing the INS MSU selection between OFF and STBY or between NAV and ATT: this simulates the additional effort of moving between these positions (that on the real MSU involves pulling out the knob).
Hope this helps,
George
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Post by ＲΞＴＲＯＬΛＤ on Aug 20, 2019 12:00:14 GMT
Besides, I don't think the autopilot will work properly if you ever manage to replace the default INS unit...?
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Aug 20, 2019 12:50:39 GMT
"PERFECT" .... thanks George. "DAUDIOFALCAO" .... there´s no problem with the MSU. It must be "depressed" (as George instructs) when seelecting between detents .... and not just clicked only. This instruction will apply to the MSU in both our DC-10 and L-1011 panels. Additionally .... there´s absolutely no need to replace the INS we provide with the CIVA version. YEP .... that´s "precisely" what I implied per my last reply .... of yesterday The INS we provide is dependent on "our AP data" in order to be able to work .... and it can´t be exchannged for the CIVA, or other INS versions .... at least not without modifying the AP data too .... only doing that will effectively "screw" the panels other AP functions. Mark C BOG/CO |
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Post by claudiofalcao on Aug 20, 2019 20:24:14 GMT
"PERFECT" .... thanks George. "DAUDIOFALCAO" .... there´s no problem with the MSU. It must be "depressed" (as George instructs) when seelecting between detents .... and not just clicked only. This instruction will apply to the MSU in both our DC-10 and L-1011 panels. Additionally .... there´s absolutely no need to replace the INS we provide with the CIVA version. YEP .... that´s "precisely" what I implied per my last reply .... of yesterday The INS we provide is dependent on "our AP data" in order to be able to work .... and it can´t be exchannged for the CIVA, or other INS versions .... at least not without modifying the AP data too .... only doing that will effectively "screw" the panels other AP functions. Mark C BOG/CO Oh, OK! In my case, starting with in cold and dark panel, the MSU starts in NAV position and is possible change to ALIGN with no problem. But when I want input the coordinates of the parking position (the first waypoint), I'm not able to change the knob to stdby position. But I'll try your procedure.
Thank you very much!
Cláudio Falcão
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Post by claudiofalcao on Aug 21, 2019 3:05:30 GMT
It is OK, now!
Thank you for your support!
Greetings from Brasil!
Cláudio
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Post by ozflyer on Sept 4, 2019 4:59:46 GMT
Shame we can’t use the CIVA unit as it’s a more complicated, accurate and rewarding INS. No disrespect to the designer of the current INS.
It must be able to be done somehow?
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Sept 4, 2019 13:31:37 GMT
Understood .... but .... "NO" .... that´s not possible given the INS we supply is integrated with our AP .... and for reasons already hinted above The DC-10 panels we currently offer are among our most "complex". We feel the INS we offer is "complex enough" for some, but, manageable by most .... so .... we don´t want to "complicate things further" by swapping what we already offer for something more advanced .... and more-so given what we offer works fine/does the job just as well anyway. "Forcing" the CIVA into these panel "WILL" .... without any word of doubt .... "bugger up" the AP progrqmming already featured within the DC-10 panels we offer. Mark C BOG/CO |
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