Help on installing aircraft

[navycommand7]

Hi I have tried installing a base pack file of HJG DC-10-30cf and I have the file installed on the fsx and when I pull up the program it does not display the aircraft can some i get some feedback on this?

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

Sometimes I can "fluke a fix" in regard to FSX support queries .... because I don´t actualy use that particular version of FS .... BUT ....

Check your DC-10-30CF PANEL.CFG and make sure it reads as follows ....


[fltsim]
alias=B737_800\panel


ALSO .... check your DC-10-30CF SOUND.CFG and make sure it rerads as follows too ...

[fltsim]
alias=B737_800\sound


The DC-10´s will/should port-over to FSX OK .... but .... their default base pack PANEL.CFG and SOUND.CFG feature the default FS2004 alias assignments which need being edited to read in accordance with FSX specific panel and sound alias assignments .... or these simulations won´t be recognised and displayed by FSX.

That´s about the best I can suggest.

Mark C
AKL/NZ

[navycommand7]

Here is what I have when I go to put it into the fsx and pull up the menu to select type of aircraft it comes up blank. 


// DC-10-30 (CF6-50C, INTERCONTINENTAL CONFIGURATION) v2.0

// January 2015

// Add your [fltsim.xx] sections here.

// Remember to start with 0 (zero).

// Copyright Historic Jetliners Group.

// No uploading of HJG materials to any website without prior approval.



[fltsim.0]

title=DC-10-30CF World Airways 1977

sim=DC-10-30CF_F

model=30F

panel=

sound=

texture=N103WA

kb_checklists=DC10CL

kb_reference=

ui_typerole=Commercial Airliner

ui_createdby=Vistaliners - Erick CANTU

ui_manufacturer=McDonnell Douglas

ui_type=DC-10-30CF

ui_variation=World Airways (1977)

visual_damage=0

description=The DC-10-30 offered considerably improved payload and range capability with increased fuel capacity and more powerful GE CF6-50 series turbofan engines. This version also featured an increased in wingspan in addition to a center main landing gear unit. The DC-10-30 became the most popular of all DC-10 variants with a total of 206 aircraft being built by McDonnell-Douglas, including 27 convertible DC-10-30CF, 4 extended range DC-10-30ER, and 12 pure freighter configured DC-10-30F aircraft. This represents the convertible PAX/freight configured KDC-10-30CF aircraft and which was also used as a tanker by the Royal Netherlands Air Force. Repaint by Peter LIDDELL

atc_id_color=0x00000000

atc_id_font=Verdana,-11,1,600,0

atc_id_enable=1

atc_heavy=1

atc_id=N103WA

atc_airline=WORLD

atc_flight_number=103

atc_parking_types=RAMP,CARGO //GATE, RAMP, CARGO etc.

atc_parking_codes=WDA //UAL, AAL etc









[General]

atc_type=MCDONELDOUGLAS

atc_model=DC10

editable=0

performance=Engines: GE CF6-50C @ 51,000 lbf\nFuel capacity: 36,554 USG (244,912 lb @ 6.7 lb USG)\nMax speed: 350 kts IAS or Mach 0.88\nFlap settings: 5-15-22-35-50\nMax operating altitude: 42,000 Ft\nTypical cruise setting: FL310-370 @ Mach 0.82-0.84





[forcefeedback]

gear_bump_nose_magnitude= 3000 ; 0 - 10000

gear_bump_nose_direction= 18000 ; 0 - 35999 degrees

gear_bump_nose_duration= 250000 ; in microseconds

gear_bump_left_magnitude= 2700 ; 0 - 10000

gear_bump_left_direction= 35500 ; 0 - 35999 degrees

gear_bump_left_duration= 250000 ; in microseconds

gear_bump_right_magnitude= 2700 ; 0 - 10000

gear_bump_right_direction= 00500 ; 0 - 35999 degrees

gear_bump_right_duration= 250000 ; in microseconds

ground_bumps_magnitude1= 1300 ; 0 - 10000

ground_bumps_angle1= 08900 ; 0 - 35999 degrees

ground_bumps_intercept1= 3.0

ground_bumps_slope1= 0.20

ground_bumps_magnitude2= 200 ; 0 - 10000

ground_bumps_angle2= 09100 ; 0 - 35999 degrees

ground_bumps_intercept2= 1.075

ground_bumps_slope2= 0.035

crash_magnitude1= 10000 ; 0 - 10000

crash_direction1= 01000 ; 0 - 35999 degrees

crash_magnitude2= 10000 ; 0 - 10000

crash_direction2= 9000 ; 0 - 35999 degrees

crash_period2= 75000 ; in microseconds

crash_duration2= 2500000 ; in microseconds





[flight_tuning]

cruise_lift_scalar= 1.35

parasite_drag_scalar= 1.20

induced_drag_scalar= 1.20

elevator_effectiveness= 0.90

aileron_effectiveness= 0.85

rudder_effectiveness= 1.00

pitch_stability= 1.20

roll_stability= 1.20

yaw_stability= 1.20

elevator_trim_effectiveness= 1.20

aileron_trim_effectiveness= 1.00

rudder_trim_effectiveness= 1.00





[WEIGHT_AND_BALANCE]

max_gross_weight= 565000.00

empty_weight= 266191.00

reference_datum_position= 0.00, 0.00, 0.00

empty_weight_CG_position= 0.00, 0.00, 0.00

station_load.0= "540, 80.00,0.00, 0.00, Pilots"

station_load.1= "1360, 0.00, 0.00, 0.00, Crew"

station_load.2= "3200, 63.00, 0.00, 0.00, 1st Class"

station_load.3= "3260, 49.00, 0.00, 0.00, Econ A galley"

station_load.4= "14760, 20.00, 0.00, 0.00, Econ B"

station_load.5= "17760, -17.00, 0.00, 0.00, Econ C"

station_load.6= "6120, -44.00, 0.0, 0.0, Econ D Galley"

station_load.7= "25900.0, 37.0,0.0,0.0, Fwd Cargo"

station_load.8= "25900.0, -28.60, 0.0, 0.0, Aft Cargo"

max_number_of_stations= 9

empty_weight_pitch_MOI= 20721839.0

empty_weight_roll_MOI= 7195817.0

empty_weight_yaw_MOI= 26998528.0

empty_weight_coupled_MOI= 0.00 // Passenger Capacity 250-380

CG_FORWARD_LIMIT= 5.58

CG_AFT_LIMIT= 1.265





[GeneralEngineData]

engine_type= 1

Engine.2= 14.00, 29.25, -2.80

Engine.0= 14.00, -29.25, -2.80

Engine.1= -78.50, 0.00, 22.50

min_throttle_limit=-0.369927

fuel_flow_scalar=0.788





[TurbineEngineData]

bypass_ratio= 4.24

fuel_flow_gain= 0.0019

inlet_area= 60.13

rated_N1_rpm= 4068.000

rated_N2_rpm= 10761.000

static_thrust= 51000 //46300 max continuous

afterburner_available= 0

reverser_available= 1





[jet_engine]

thrust_scalar= 1.00





[airplane_geometry]

wing_area= 3647.00

wing_span= 165.40

wing_root_chord= 39.35

wing_dihedral= 6.00

wing_incidence= 0.00

wing_twist= -1.00

oswald_efficiency_factor= 0.93

wing_winglets_flag= 0

wing_sweep= 35.00

wing_pos_apex_lon= 20.50

wing_pos_apex_vert= 2.60

htail_area= 422.44

htail_span= 71.20

htail_pos_lon= -56.00

htail_pos_vert= 10.00

htail_incidence= 0.00

htail_sweep= 35.00

vtail_area= 452.00

vtail_span= 24.25

vtail_sweep= 35.00

vtail_pos_lon= -60.50

vtail_pos_vert= 28.50

elevator_area= 60.35

aileron_area= 50.28

rudder_area= 40.32

elevator_up_limit= 26.00

elevator_down_limit= 20.60

aileron_up_limit= 19.50

aileron_down_limit= 20.60

rudder_limit= 23.50

elevator_trim_limit= 19.50

spoiler_limit= 60.00

spoilerons_available= 1

aileron_to_spoileron_gain= 1.00

min_ailerons_for_spoilerons= 1.00

min_flaps_for_spoilerons= 0





[Reference Speeds]

flaps_up_stall_speed= 192

full_flaps_stall_speed= 130

cruise_speed= 600

max_indicated_speed= 360

max_mach= 0.88





[contact_points]

point.0=1, 67.00, 0.00, -11.80, 1200, 0, 2.0, 68, 0.900, 2.0, 0.7, 8.0, 9.0, 0, 260, 300

point.1=1, -12.00, -18.20, -11.70, 1500, 1, 2.0, 0, 0.887, 2.5, 0.6, 9.9, 10.9, 2, 260, 300

point.2=1, -12.00, 18.20, -11.70, 1500, 2, 2.0, 0, 0.887, 2.5, 0.6, 9.1, 10.1, 3, 260, 300

point.3=2, -31.50, -83.70, 7.00, 787, 0, 0.0, 0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 5, 0, 0

point.4=2, -31.50, 83.70, 7.00, 787, 0, 0.0, 0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 6, 0, 0

point.5=2, 97.50, 0.00, 6.00, 787, 0, 0.0, 0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 9, 0, 0

point.6=2, -93.50, 0.00, 25.00, 787, 0, 0.0, 0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 4, 0, 0

point.7=2, -85.50, 0.00, 11.50, 787, 0, 0.0, 0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 4, 0, 0

point.8=2,-46.50, 0.00, -1.65, 787, 0, 0.0, 0, 0.000, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 4, 0, 0

max_number_of_points= 9

static_pitch= 0.072

static_cg_height= 10.90

gear_system_type= 1





[Flaps.0]

type= 1

span-outboard= 0.800

extending-time= 20.000

damaging-speed= 280

blowout-speed= 300

lift_scalar= 0.5

drag_scalar= 0.6

pitch_scalar= 0.3000

system_type= 1





flaps-position.0= 0.000

flaps-position.1= 0.000 //LEADING EDGE SLATS EXTEND ONLY-TRAILING EDGE FLAPS REMAIN DOCKED

flaps-position.2= 5.000

flaps-position.3=15.000 //UNDER MAX TAKEOFF WEIGHT-10,000FT+ EXTENDED LENGTH RUNWAYS-TAKEOFF CONFIGURATION

flaps-position.4=22.000 //NORMAL FULL LOAD TAKEOFF CONFIGURATION (WITHIN TAKEOFF WEIGHT LIMITS)

flaps-position.5=35.000 //NORMAL LANDING CONFIGURATION WITH APPROPRIATE AIRCRAFT LANDING WEIGHTS

flaps-position.6=50.000 //USED ONLY ON WET RUNWAY SUFACES OR RUNWAYS WITH A LENGTH LESS THAN 7000 FEET





[Flaps.1]

type= 2

span-outboard= 0.80

extending-time= 10.000

damaging-speed= 280

blowout-speed= 300

lift_scalar= 0.210

drag_scalar= 0.5

pitch_scalar= 0.20

system_type= 1





flaps-position.0= 0.000

flaps-position.1=15.000 //NORMAL HALF EXTEND-TAKEOFF CONFIGURATION

flaps-position.2=15.000

flaps-position.3=15.000

flaps-position.4=15.000

flaps-position.5=35.000 //FULL EXTEND-LANDING CONFIGURATION

flaps-position.6=35.000





[Flaps.2]

type= 2

span-outboard= 0.18

extending-time= 10.000

damaging-speed= 280

blowout-speed= 300

lift_scalar= 0.210

drag_scalar= 0.4

pitch_scalar= 0.10

system_type= 1





flaps-position.0= 0.000

flaps-position.1=15.000 //NORMAL HALF EXTEND-TAKEOFF CONFIGURATION

flaps-position.2=15.000

flaps-position.3=15.000

flaps-position.4=15.000

flaps-position.5=25.4 //FULL EXTEND-LANDING CONFIGURATION

flaps-position.6=25.4





[electrical]

autopilot = 0, 5 , 17.0

avionics_bus = 0, 10, 17.0

avionics = 1, 5 , 17.0

gear_warning = 0, 2 , 17.0

fuel_pump1 = 0, 5 , 17.0

fuel_pump2 = 0, 5 , 17.0

fuel_pump3 = 0, 5 , 17.0

fuel_pump4 = 0, 5 , 17.0

fuel_pump5 = 0, 5 , 17.0

light_nav = 0, 5 , 17.0

light_beacon = 0, 5 , 17.0

light_landing = 0, 5 , 17.0

light_taxi = 0, 5 , 17.0

light_strobe = 0, 5 , 17.0

light_panel = 0, 5 , 17.0

pitot_heat = 0, 15, 17.0

additional_system = 0, 20, 17.0

marker_beacon = 1, 2, 17.0

starter1 = 0, 20, 17.0

starter2 = 0, 20, 17.0

starter3 = 0, 20, 17.0

hydraulic_pump1 = 0, 2, 17.0

hydraulic_pump2 = 0, 2, 17.0

hydraulic_pump3 = 0, 2, 17.0

fuel_transfer_pump = 0, 5, 17.0

max_battery_voltage = 28.0

generator_alternator_voltage = 28.0

max_generator_alternator_amps= 60.0

electric_always_available = 0

engine_generator_map= 1, 1, 1, 0





[pitot_static]

vertical_speed_time_constant=99.0





[exits]

number_of_exits = 2

exit_rate.0 = 0.105

exit_rate.1 = 0.105





[TailHook] //Extends Landing light pods

tailhook_length= 4

tailhook_position= 0.0, 0.0, 0.0

cable_force_adjust= 0.5





[folding_wings] //cargo doors and R2+L4 galley service doors

wing_fold_system_type= 4

fold_rates= 0.110,0.110





[Views]

eyepoint= 89.20, -2.30, 11.30 //PILOTS CORRECT VIEWPOINT





[LIGHTS]

//Types: 1– Beacon,2– Strobe,3– Navigation,4– cockpit,5– Landing,6– Taxi,7– Recognition,8– Wing,9– Logo,10– Cabin (7-10 REQUIRE GAUGE)

light.0=1, -0.90, 0.00, 18.70, fx_beaconh ,

light.1=1, -30.90, 0.00, -3.00, fx_beaconb ,

light.2=3, -74.00, -12.00, 34.50, DC10.4logo ,

light.3=3, -74.00, 12.00, 34.50, DC10.4logo ,

light.4=5, 80.50, -10.50, 1.10, DC10.4landing ,

light.5=5, 80.50, 10.50, 1.10, DC10.4landing ,





[keyboard_response]

elevator= 100, 200

aileron= 100, 200

rudder= 100, 200





[direction_indicators]

direction_indicator.0=3,0





[fuel]

Center1= 3.00, 0.00, 0.00, 11276.0, 0.00 //tank 2

Center2= -3.00, 0.00, 0.00, 11276.0, 0.00 //tank4

LeftMain= -14.00, -27.50, 0.00, 7049.0, 0 //tank 1

RightMain= -14.00, 27.50, 0.00, 7049.0, 0 //tank 3

fuel_type= 2

number_of_tank_selectors= 1

electric_pump=1





[autopilot]

autopilot_available= 1

flight_director_available= 1

default_vertical_speed= 800

autothrottle_available= 1

use_no_default_pitch= 1

use_no_default_bank= 1

pitch_takeoff_ga= 8

autothrottle_arming_required= 1

autothrottle_takeoff_ga= 1

autothrottle_max_rpm= 118.5

default_pitch_mode=0

default_bank_mode=0

max_pitch= 10.00

max_pitch_acceleration= 1.00

max_pitch_velocity_lo_alt= 2.00

max_pitch_velocity_hi_alt= 1.50

max_pitch_velocity_lo_alt_breakpoint=20000

max_pitch_velocity_hi_alt_breakpoint=28000

max_bank= 20.00

max_bank_acceleration= 1.80

max_bank_velocity= 3.00

max_throttle_rate= 0.10

nav_proportional_control= 9.00

nav_integrator_control= 0.25

nav_derivative_control= 0.00

nav_integrator_boundary= 2.50

nav_derivative_boundary= 0.00

gs_proportional_control= 9.52

gs_integrator_control= 0.26

gs_derivative_control= 0.00

gs_integrator_boundary= 0.70

gs_derivative_boundary= 0.00

yaw_damper_gain= 1.00





[Radios]

Audio.1=1

Com.1=1, 1

Com.2=1, 1

Nav.1=1, 1, 1

Nav.2=1, 1, 0

Adf.1=1

Adf.2=1

Transponder.1=1

Marker.1=1





[SMOKESYSTEM]

//N/A





[EFFECTS]

wake= fx_wake

water= fx_spray

dirt= fx_tchdrt

concrete= fx_sparks

touchdown= fx_tchdwn, 1

Contrail=

startup=

windshield_rain_effect_available=1 //0= OFF, 1= ON





[brakes]

toe_brakes_scale= 0.559

parking_brake= 1





[gear_warning_system]

gear_warning_available= 1

pct_throttle_limit= 5.00

flap_limit_power= 24.637

flap_limit_idle= 24.637





[hydraulic_system]

electric_pumps= 0

engine_map= 1,1,1,0

normal_pressure= 3000





[stall_warning]

type= 1





[attitude_indicators]

attitude_indicator.0= 1





[turn_indicators]

turn_indicator.0= 1,0





[FSHS_AIBLAST]

OldName=MCDONNELDOUGLAS

NewName=mcdonneLdoUGLAS

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

What you´ve copied & pasted there is the AIRCRAFT.CFG file data.

This data is "FINE" .... and is both FS2004/FSX compatible/portable.

What I referred to within my reply posting (above) is the "PANEL.CFG" and the "SOUND.CFG" .... inside each of the default Panel and Sound folders which accompany the aircraft base pack.

By default .... the PANEL.CFG and SOUND.CFG in both of these will be aliased to the default FS2004 Panel and Sound alias assignments .... and it´s "THIS DATA", in both folders, which needs to be edited to read in accordance with default the FSX Panel and Sound alaias asignments .... otherwise FSX will not/cannot display your intended subject.

"AT A GUESS" (only) .... I´d say you´ve forgotten to do this, or, possibly havený done it correctly.

Attending to these edits (as pasted above) may, possibly, resolve your difficulty.

Bear in mind also please ....

The current HJG flightline of DC-10 panels "ARE NOT" FSX compatible, so, avoid trying to installoing these in FSX, but, we do now offer "FSX SPECIFIC" versions of our DC-10 soundpacks and which are clealy labelled "FSX", so, be sure to download and install the correct FS version .... if yoiu plan to do so at all.

Mark C
BOG/CO

[Herman]

Hello navycommand7;

What Mark has explained and outlined in his previous reply is quite correct and these procedures must be adhered to.

Most HJG offered aircraft are adaptable and can be ported over to FSX, however, some aircraft panels offered by HJG, like the Douglas DC-10 Panels, are not compatible for use in FSX and therefore the aircraft will not show up in the FSX Aircraft Menu.

When this is the case, what one needs to do is to substitude the Panel and Sound Files with files that are compatible with FSX.

The best way to do this is to do a search on flightsim.com or Avsim, who probably will have FSX DC-10 Panels available for downloading.

Should you require any additional assistance please do not hesitate to ask and do let us know how you made out.

Herman

[navycommand7]

So basically the reason probably why the plane is not being displayed is because of the panel and the sound file correct? 

[aerofoto - HJG Admin]

I feel you need to tell us more than you actually are

We cant see what folk do .... obviously .... so .... we can only "assume" .... at best .... and based on the information provided by folk.

The more one informs us in regard to "what they´ve actually done and/or are trying to do" (for example .... are you intending to use the just the default Panel and Sound folders, and their aliases, as supplied within the file download ? .... OR .... have you attempted to install any other panel and soundpack in preference to these ?) then the quicker we can analyse any difficulty and .... hopefully .... arrive and a satisfactory conclusion.

There are any number of reasons why a simulation may not be recognised and displayed within the MSFS aircraft selectio menu .... BUT .... minor/inocent CFG file misconfigurations account for by far the majority of these scenarious.

So basically the reason probably why the plane is not being displayed is because of the panel and the sound file correct?

It´s a very distinct possibility .... given that the HJG hosted DC10´s "ARE" FSX portable as per the following video/s ....


DC-10-10
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF8x5mQDP0s

DC-10-15 & -30
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaAZzl0qmeg

DC-10-40
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUUWIalbIyI


.... but in particular .... what both myself, and Herman, are trying to say is .... "IF" (in the event that you´re trying to satisfy yourself using default MSFS panel and/or sound options) your PANEL.CFG and/or SOUND.CFG files are incorrectly configured .... OR .... "IF" (in the event that you´re trying to install an addon panel and/or sound option) these other files possibly aren´t configured/installed correctly .... THEN .... in both scenarios this could, and most probably would, cause FS to "NOT" display the installed subject. FSX is pretty "sensitive" in this respect.

Again .... we really need more of a disclosure, from you, in regard to precisely what you´ve done, or are trying to do, but as always, we´re glad to "TRY" to assist your troubleshooting .... of course

Just for starters .... we still need to know whether or not you´ve applied the default FSX PANEL.CFG and SOUND.CFG edits I´ve provided above .... since "THIS" .... is indeed "the place to start".

Mark C
BOG/CO

[navycommand7]

What I will do is I will take the advice that has been given and try it if not how would I send a screenshot of the problem in case the advice doesn't help.

I will try what you have mentioned first and go from there thank you very much