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Post by hornit - HJG on Dec 7, 2017 17:33:22 GMT
Just a tip from an old simmer...  Ericks Vistaliner 737's have been around for a WHILE. Before you ask for a texture here I'd suggest a swing through the Flightsim.com and Avsim, (and possibly the Simviation sites) file libraries to see if something you are looking for has already been done. Im sure we will paint some newer versions, but there are MANY paints out there available for these models already which are quite good. Any decent search for Vistaliners + 737 should result in a lot of hits. Make sure you have the Vistaliners version and not the slightly older Kittyhawk one. The textures will not work on the new model. Good luck! |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Dec 7, 2017 18:41:56 GMT
Just a slight clarification here  .... What Jim advises will work very satisfactorily in any number of cases, but, maybe not so satisfactorily in all cases. Whilst the texture mapping of our "NEW" models (B737-400/400/500 I'm talking about) is precisely the same as that for each of the last version CANTU produced models .... our "NEW" models are composed of a different foundation and which will impact some of these earlier/non-HJG produced textures which might be seen to take on "a more matted" (less natural/dynamic sheen) appearance when applied to our "NEW" models. The reason for this is because outside HJG no two texture artists paint quite the same manner. Again .... some of the late version textures for CANTU's last version models of these aircraft will work "quite acceptably" on our "NEW" models .... but .... others may not .... so .... it's a case of pure trial and error (to be undertaken by yourselves) and which we can't assist with beyond this advice. This "DOES NOT" apply to any of Jim's textures for the last versions of the CANTU produced B737 models though .... because his work is of such outstandingly good quality to start with and adapt well to our "NEW" B737 models. This "DOES NOT" apply to any of the B737 textures offered by HJG .... because they've been compiled especially for these new models to start with. And .... "YES" .... HJG will undoubtedly produce it's own versions of some textures already represented for the last version CANTU produced models. We don't seek to copy any of these and won't, but, obviously some of our own graphics artists will favour, or have a special interest in, the liveries of some airlines and will obviously want to represent "their own" versions of previously existing textures for these and our "NEW" models. Tony .... or Paul .... might wish to elaborate further along these lines .... BUT .... I hope this otherwise satisfactorily clarifies the situation for everyone Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by hornit - HJG on Dec 8, 2017 3:38:57 GMT
Geeze...I guess i should have checked first eh Boss?? Ill make sure that they are up to snuff if and when i do others again..as always!!!! |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Dec 8, 2017 3:58:49 GMT
Hey no worries Jim ...."tranquilo" One doesn't know what one doesn't know .... but it's probably good you raised this anyway because it's given us the chance to discuss it for everyone's awareness .... and you meant well of course I'm still hoping Tony, or Paul, will elaborate on this subject later .... and for the benefit of everyone's additional knowledge. Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by tristar - HJG on Dec 8, 2017 8:11:41 GMT
Just a slight clarification here .... What Jim advises will work very satisfactorily in any number of cases, but, maybe not so satisfactorily in all cases. Whilst the texture mapping of our "NEW" models (B737-400/400/500 I'm talking about) is precisely the same as that for each of the last version CANTU produced models .... our "NEW" models are composed of a different foundation and which will impact some of these earlier/non-HJG produced textures which might be seen to take on "a more matted" (less natural/dynamic sheen) appearance when applied to our "NEW" models. The reason for this is because outside HJG no two texture artists paint quite the same manner. Again .... some of the late version textures for CANTU's last version models of these aircraft will work "quite acceptably" on our "NEW" models .... but .... others may not .... so .... it's a case of pure trial and error (to be undertaken by yourselves) and which we can't assist with beyond this advice. This "DOES NOT" apply to any of Jim's textures for the last versions of the CANTU produced B737 models though .... because his work is of such outstandingly good quality to start with and adapt well to our "NEW" B737 models. This "DOES NOT" apply to any of the B737 textures offered by HJG .... because they've been compiled especially for these new models to start with. And .... "YES" .... HJG will undoubtedly produce it's own versions of some textures already represented for the last version CANTU produced models. We don't seek to copy any of these and won't, but, obviously some of our own graphics artists will favour, or have a special interest in, the liveries of some airlines and will obviously want to represent "their own" versions of previously existing textures for these and our "NEW" models. Tony .... or Paul .... might wish to elaborate further along these lines .... BUT .... I hope this otherwise satisfactorily clarifies the situation for everyone Mark C AKL/NZ Hi Guys. The textures are backwards compatible, as I did not change any mapping, but the fuselage textures are now laid out over a real 733, so window position and sizes are changed, panel lines moved and added etc, etc, and new alpha channels to suit. What was added was mapped on the original textures using existing graphics. The 734 and 735 have completely new fuselage textures again laid out on real photos so window sizes positions etc will be different to the existing paints, but constant across our fleet. As Mark said, the shine etc will be down to the paint kit and painters preference, but hopefully ours will be standard across the new fleet. More time was probably spent refining the paint kits than on the model changes. To recap. The existing Vistaliners paints should work, but might not show up as expected due to alpha channels etc, so don't blame me if some of the existing metal repaints blind you  . or don't look as they did in the preview pictures. Best regards. Paul |
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Post by hornit - HJG on Dec 8, 2017 14:49:50 GMT
Thats good news! Alpha channels are EASILY fixed if folks dont like them, or want them changed somehow. So far im finding my few paints for this bird work well.
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Dec 8, 2017 18:33:22 GMT
YEAH .... yours are good Jim .... because they're so oustandingly well done to start with .... and adapt well if not perfectly.
Mark C
AKL/NZ
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Post by Peter Liddell - HJG Admin on Dec 8, 2017 20:44:40 GMT
I plan on testing some more... shall we say "Alphaed" Vista 737s tonight... if they work Mark might be getting a big email |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Dec 8, 2017 20:50:09 GMT
I've got a very big virtual apron and hangar Peter .... and always work overtime as you know. So .... hit me whenever your ready .... and we'll take it from there Check your email BTW .... I've just sent you something Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by Peter Liddell - HJG Admin on Dec 9, 2017 0:56:49 GMT
Well your apron might be a little bit busier now |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Dec 9, 2017 1:00:27 GMT
YEAH .... I see that squadron got in around an hour or so ago .... thanks Pete Mark |
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Post by aedwards21 on Dec 23, 2017 0:12:43 GMT
Just downloaded all the hjg 737 models to my fs2004 what a dissapointment with the models. a step back in time as far as i am concerned. not up to the standard that we are use to with models from tds , david maltbys 1-11, vistaliners etc. hjg dc9s mds, deleted the 737s now, these appear to be ffx models from fs 2002. sorry thats my opinion
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Dec 23, 2017 2:51:55 GMT
That's your opinion .... and which your quite entitled to of course .... as is everyone else also We know we can't please everybody .... and nor do we seek to try'n do so .... and nor do we seek to try'n compete with anyone elses productions either. At the end of the day we've never marketed these B737 models as being the latest and greatest in FS technology. We can only do what we can do "using the source code supplied to us" (VISTALINERS FS2004 incidentally) .... and to the best of our ability. So .... whilst we humbly respect the "choice remains yours" .... my own oppinion is you're probably being somewhat over-expectant in regard to what some people/groups have the capacity to be able deliver, but, there are "other alternatives" at your disposal .... as you've already stated. Pity we can't please you though  .... BUT HEY .... that's the way it is and will likely remain so absolutely no offence taken. Thank you for taking the trouble to log onto our forum and express your honest opinion .... and we hope you have a good Christmas also BTW Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by alex94 on Dec 23, 2017 4:20:23 GMT
Lol these are the vista liners models. 😂
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Post by Tony Madge - HJG on Dec 23, 2017 10:38:37 GMT
Based on, but modified a fair bit and certainly not FS2002 |
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. or don't look as they did in the preview pictures.
.... BUT HEY .... that's the way it is and will likely remain so absolutely no offence taken. 