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Post by walterleo on Jun 17, 2018 15:27:20 GMT
Hi friends: As CalClassics has a 1962 MUHA airport and landscape here the Aeorfolt Tu-114 arrives at evening thunderstorms already building up. Its not so far to land. Lets show (and hear) our Cuban comrades we are coming! Left below the Center of Havana with the "Malecon". Already on final: And flare for landing: It was quite a long flight to come here and to get back again: from tropical Cuba to subpolar Murmansk or if the wind is favourable till Moscow. Kind regards Walter
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Post by darrenvox on Jun 17, 2018 19:04:44 GMT
Havana na na na...lol of pics
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Post by walterleo on Jun 20, 2018 10:45:19 GMT
Hi friends: The T.O. from Havanna was really difficult: Even in the early morning the temprature is 25 deg C or more, the runway was a little too short for a fully ladden Tu-114 under that condition and the departure goes via rising terrain, so it was dicided to follow non standart procedures as NOT retracte the gear immediatly and to take off only around sunrise. Here a Tu-114 still in the first colour. And it could fly away but with few meters to spare. Even after that it demanded a fine balancing between speed and climb rate. My version of the Tu-114 reactes as described. Kind regards Walter
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Post by tgibson on Jun 25, 2018 15:28:55 GMT
Glad you found the scenery useful. I have also struggled to get the Tu-114 in and out of Havana - great fun.
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Post by walterleo on Jun 25, 2018 19:02:44 GMT
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jun 25, 2018 20:57:23 GMT
Mike and I were looking at the TU-114 FDE a little while back.
One of the issues we ran into is the compiler uses "WEIGHT" in order to replicate "the feel" of this aircraft .... some people "do" do that.
We found it was "a major" to mess around with this .... so .... we "left it alone".
I suspect some of this simulations operational limitations "might" be due (in part) to it's weight/FDE/feel configuration .... unless this's been revised now .... and despite the fact Walter has already acknowledged that Habana was/might have been marginal for TU-114 operations and which I s'pose would have been imposed by Habana's high ambient temperatures, runway length, and the fuel weight for the long trip back to Moskva.
Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by Nathan Ford - HJG on Jun 26, 2018 6:34:21 GMT
Walter, just loving following your adventure in the TU-114, great detail of a plane I don’t get to see to often. Keep the great work coming.
Cheers
Nathan
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Post by walterleo on Jun 26, 2018 13:55:31 GMT
Hi friends: "My" Tu 114 "Cuban Variation" was published back in 2014 at AVSIM.SU More than 3000 downloads since then. At the same time I published also a brief flight manual for that bird at the same place. The basis was SAMDIMS Tu-114 but with many changes: Besides changing Samdims panel to a very realisticaly functioning panel, using the sound of the Tu-95 by Maxim Mysin, I used the totally new flight dynamics of Nicholas K. LAng, tweaking them a little for fuel burn, speed, take off distances, climb rate,range, emergency descent, wheight and landing according to the real flight manual. In the cited flight manual you find also elements of the T.O. from Habana. Total no wind range is around 12.000 km with no reserves. According to handbook the 114 with 182 tons at 25 deg C would need 3400 m of runway and my simulation does that also (all deicers OFF!) To fly the long distance Habana-Murmansk I put in 10 to more fuel as a stock 114 could carry. In the real 114 this was done by a fuel tank put there where normaly the fat cats in first class where seating, in my simulation defining 10 tons more in the forward center tank and reducing the payload to 13260 pds carrying 186728 pds of fuel adding up to 408000 pds total wheight (182 tons). What SAMDIM tried to achive regarding the heavy feel doubling the total mass I did by using the joystick interface of Project Tupolev and nobody complained about that. I did not receive any negative comment at the AVSIM.SU forum only one hint, that the place of the RSBN box ist not realistic. One bug I discovered some days ago: At very light wheight one must not use the beta-range till standstill but in a real airplane you should not do that also. Kind regards Walter
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