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Post by fredcioldin on Dec 8, 2021 3:09:58 GMT
Hey Guys, I am having some issues with the 727-100 Panel in general. As you can see in the screenshot below, I am missing some dials and panel buttons. And some of the instruments view are missing too, like some gauges were missing. I downloaded at least four times the gauges pack and the panel. Checked the Handling notes at least twice to see if I am missing some thing, but still the same. i.ibb.co/xHDFY7J/b727.pngThanks in advance! Fred |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Dec 8, 2021 8:02:09 GMT
That "SHOULD NOT" happen .... obviously.
These panels have been offered here since around 2008 .... and their supporting gauges suite hasn't been updated since 2016.
You've not stated which FS and WINDOWS version you're using .... might be helpful to know.
I presume you've downloaded the panel files from here and not from anywhere else or as part of any non-HJG offered package.
Seems you're missing all 3 EGT gauges and the WX RADAR selection icon from the Main panel.
Can't know/see to what extent .... if any .... you're other sub panels might be affected.
You say you're using the B727-100 panel, but, don't state precisely which version of it .... EARLY or LATE .... and with precisely which B727 aircraft base back either.
Such as you're reporting would normally only result if you've got a corrupted or otherwise incomplete PANEL GAUGES/CORE FILES package .... or .... if your PANEL.CFG has been edited to any extent .... or if a wrong panel version is used with a particular aircraft base pack.
I've also read (on other forums) of instances relating to recent WINDOWS updates stuffing things up .... at least in regard to other FS/non-HJG files.
Mark C
AKL/NZ
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Post by fredcioldin on Dec 8, 2021 11:17:29 GMT
That "SHOULD NOT" happen .... obviously. These panels have been offered here since around 2008 .... and their supporting gauges suite hasn't been updated since 2016. You've not stated which FS and WINDOWS version you're using .... might be helpful to know. I presume you've downloaded the panel files from here and not from anywhere else or as part of any non-HJG offered package. Seems you're missing all 3 EGT gauges and the WX RADAR selection icon from the Main panel. Can't know/see to what extent .... if any .... you're other sub panels might be affected. You say you're using the B727-100 panel, but, don't state precisely which version of it .... EARLY or LATE .... and with precisely which B727 aircraft base back either. Such as you're reporting would normally only result if you've got a corrupted or otherwise incomplete PANEL GAUGES/CORE FILES package .... or .... if your PANEL.CFG has been edited to any extent .... or if a wrong panel version is used with a particular aircraft base pack. I've also read (on other forums) of instances relating to recent WINDOWS updates stuffing things up .... at least in regard to other FS/non-HJG files. Mark C AKL/NZ Hey Mark, thanks for the reply. Here we go more info: I am using Fs9 with windows 7. Downloaded everything from here. I tried both panels early and late. The screenshot was the early one. Just tried the 727-200 early too, and the result is the same. It seems that the full upper panel is missing too. And I didn’t edit the panel.cfg. Tomorrow I will download the gauge pack in another pc with windows 10 and test it. |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Dec 8, 2021 17:49:32 GMT
That suggests you've got 2X different problems .... "2 incomplete files downloads". - A panel file problem - A panel gauges/core files problem Both lots of files are "separate". A problem with the panel gauges/core files will only ever affect the gauges (etc) content of the panel .... BUT .... a panel problem will affect the actual panel. If your file download was incomplete or corrupted though then upon attempting to unzip it one would normally expect to be confronted with a message ("CHECK SUM ERROR" .... or similar) alerting one to such a problem. If any the content of any downloaded and unzipped files were incompatible with one's FS platform (since you're using FS9 and these panels/gauges are FS9 native .... as well as being FSX portable too .... then this shouldn't be an issue though) then FS would normally alert one to this also when selecting and attempting to load the panel. Obviously you'e received no such alerts. It would be a "VERY RARE" event that such a problem might happen downloading on one PC and not another, but, I "can" happen. It's worth trying what you suggest doing regardless. In the mean time I'll perform some file comparisons between the stock that should have been uploaded (and to the best of our knowledge was uploaded .... during 2016) versus what's currently downloadable. I suspect the cause of the problem may be at your end though  .... but .... will check our end just for assurance  Mark C AKL/NZ |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Dec 8, 2021 20:23:20 GMT
Just checked verified both the uploaded B727-100 EARLY and LATE panels .... and their supporting B727 PANEL GAUGES/CORE FILES too .... against the HJG stock of these same files on our/my offline PC.
The uploaded files for each are fine/complete are consistent with the file size and content of the offline stock .... and also in accordance with what I have installed on the offline PC and in FS2004 too.
The PANEL GAUGES/CORE FILES V2.2 package you have should measure some 5.64/5.65 MB prior to unzipping .... and unzipped should measure some 19.3/19.5 MB and contain all of the following essential elements ....
- PANEL GAUGES = 2X files
- PANEL SOUNDS = 89X files
The B727 100 EARLY V2 panel you have should measure some 2.78/2.79 MB prior to unzipping .... and unzipped should measure some 7.95/8.00 MB and also contain all of the following essential elements ....
- PANEL.B727-100 EARLY folder containing 14X files/elements
The B727 100 LATE V2 panel you have should measure some 2.80/2.81 MB prior to unzipping .... and unzipped should measure some 7.98/8.02 MB and contain all of the following essential elements ....
- PANEL.B727-100 LATE folder also containing 14X files/elements
If what you've downloaded and unzipped doesn't conform to the above file size and content descriptions, then, and for whatever reason might apply, you're obviously getting incomplete downloads .... unless something on your system is preventing FS from displaying certain elements.
As I mentioned within my last reply of this morning .... it seems, from your own description/s, you have 2X separate problems as follows ....
1. A panel gauges issue .... with certain files being "blocked" or otherwise not being recognized displayed.
2. A panel/s issue .... with certain files also being "blocked" or otherwise not being displayed.
Mark C
AKL/NZ
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Post by fredcioldin on Dec 9, 2021 13:08:59 GMT
Mark, On the PC with windows 10 it worked fine. Everything working.
Will try on the windows 7 again.
Thanks a lot!
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Dec 9, 2021 17:16:54 GMT
Keep us advised Fred.
If those files are working fine within a WIN 10 environment then there's absolutely no reason why they shouldn't work equally fine within WIN 7 also.
So .... something on your WIN 7 machine's likely been "blocking" things .... short of any possible earlier file corruption.
I had also (yesterday) considered the likelihood of anti-virus/security possibly interfering with things and even screen resolution too (the latter can be/"is" relevant to our DC-9 panels) .... BUT .... I'm not sure in the case of the B727 panels, but, bear it in mind anyway.
Mark C
AKL/NZ
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Post by fredcioldin on Dec 11, 2021 0:57:55 GMT
Keep us advised Fred. If those files are working fine within a WIN 10 environment then there's absolutely no reason why they shouldn't work equally fine within WIN 7 also. So .... something on your WIN 7 machine's likely been "blocking" things .... short of any possible earlier file corruption. I had also (yesterday) considered the likelihood of anti-virus/security possibly interfering with things and even screen resolution too (the latter can be/"is" relevant to our DC-9 panels) .... BUT .... I'm not sure in the case of the B727 panels, but, bear it in mind anyway. Mark C AKL/NZ Will do Mark, I am away from my pc with the windows 7 this weekend and I will do it on next week. Thanks for all the advices. I would say it was a gauge and/or panel.cfg problem. Cause some gauges weren’t showing and some buttons weren’t showing. Before I sent the first message, I checked the jpg files and the full overhead was there but the button wasn’t. Again, thanks a lot for the help and have a nice weekend for all of you. |
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Dec 11, 2021 3:13:12 GMT
If your gauges and PANEL.CFG's haven't been modified (as you've earlier advised) .... and if your B727 panels are functioning fine within FS9 and the WIN10 environment but not in FS9 and within your WIN7 environment .... then short of a possible file corruption (as I've earlier suggested) I "suspect" the cause of your issue/s are unlikely to be specifically gauges and/or PANEL.CFG related .... in regard to what's supplied at least.
As your issue is apparently occurring "in FS9" and within the "WIN7" environment only .... then .... something on that particular machine and/or running in it's background, or as part of FS9, could (possibly) be blocking some gauges.
I've never actually heard of this problem before or since we launched these B727 panes around 2008 .... as a search of this forum will confirm.
I'm "ONLY GUESSING" when I suggest anti-virus and/or screen resolution "possibly" being the culprit .... but .... I'd be interested to know if deactivating your security and/or adjusting/reducing your screen resolution solves the problem.
I know, for a fact, our DC-9 panels can't be run over a certain screen resolution before issues start to arise, but, I can't recall what that resolution is (although it has been quoted on this forum several years ago) .... BUT .... what troubles in regard to this "suggestion" is screen resolution has never previously been known to pose problems for any of the B727 panels we host.
Mark
AKL/NZ
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Post by fredcioldin on Dec 14, 2021 23:12:40 GMT
If your gauges and PANEL.CFG's haven't been modified (as you've earlier advised) .... and if your B727 panels are functioning fine within FS9 and the WIN10 environment but not in FS9 and within your WIN7 environment .... then short of a possible file corruption (as I've earlier suggested) I "suspect" the cause of your issue/s are unlikely to be specifically gauges and/or PANEL.CFG related .... in regard to what's supplied at least. As your issue is apparently occurring "in FS9" and within the "WIN7" environment only .... then .... something on that particular machine and/or running in it's background, or as part of FS9, could (possibly) be blocking some gauges. I've never actually heard of this problem before or since we launched these B727 panes around 2008 .... as a search of this forum will confirm. I'm "ONLY GUESSING" when I suggest anti-virus and/or screen resolution "possibly" being the culprit .... but .... I'd be interested to know if deactivating your security and/or adjusting/reducing your screen resolution solves the problem. I know, for a fact, our DC-9 panels can't be run over a certain screen resolution before issues start to arise, but, I can't recall what that resolution is (although it has been quoted on this forum several years ago) .... BUT .... what troubles in regard to this "suggestion" is screen resolution has never previously been known to pose problems for any of the B727 panels we host. Mark AKL/NZ Hello Mark! It just worked. I just Erased all the files of the gauges and panel. And downloaded again, extracted in another directory and moved to the aircraft and fsfsconv. Installed and worked! Thanks a lot for the help. I think that my windows weren't copying some files and now copied and everything is fine! Cheers!! |
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.... but .... will check our end just for assurance 