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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jan 28, 2024 18:23:26 GMT
No worries Kurt. And I don't consider the time/effort wasted either. It all ultimately aids more people than whom might care to ask any question (in relation to this particular topic should it ever be raised again in the future) .... now there's a forum record of it. I figured you must have been using key-presses below 80 KTS in order to simulate tapping/kicking the rudder pedals in order to maintain the RWY centerline during TO, but, also wanted to try'n make sure (for my own confidence) that doing so wasn't resulting in a spike/reflex that might influence the Elevator setting too (and which might then trigger the horn). In FS, and using different hardware, and methodologies too, odd things can happen (and have been reported) .... albeit in many cases such tend to be unique to particular systems/hardware configurations. I wanted to try'n verify whether or not this was a factor in your case (just part of the process of elimination when trying to analize reports .... we tend to try'n not leave any stones unturned), but, I now see such "is not" the case .... in your particular case. Glad you've got it sorted now though Consider using the panel file/s I sent you (don't add, or subtract, anything else to them), then you can be assured you're on "the same page as me" .... and which will/should result in the almost perfect panel behavior I've been advocating .... save for the few very minor "KNOWN ISSUES" I've stated near the end of "SECTION" 1 of the forum based manual. Enjoy the B732's Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by biggiraffe on Jan 28, 2024 21:00:35 GMT
Hello! I went ahead and loaded your panel files, then tested again, and I get identically the same results as with the original files -- horn sounds with the "left" aileron key press but ceases when controls are centered again. Also, I checked the elevator trim per your earlier instructions and verified that it does not change with the aileron key press. And thinking about it, I believe the reason I have been using aileron key presses for turning on the ground is becasue "I've always done it that way". Looking back, when I started with FS I had a simple two-axis joystick and so put the rudder on "Auto" and never thought about it again. Years later, I bought a fancier joystick mainly for the throttle control but never paid any attention to the yaw control that is part of the handle. This afternoon I did a flight and tried out using the joystick yaw twist instead of the key presses, and I find the joystick really does work better for control... Except I have to retrain my reflexes. (But I don't think that will be too hard, even after all these years!) Eventually I'll try out the "new" joystick method of ground turning on other aircraft. Right now, I'm having so much fun with this LONG-awaited 737-200!
Thanks again, Kurt
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Post by aerofoto - HJG Admin on Jan 28, 2024 22:36:46 GMT
That's good news too Kurt .... because it confirms what I have isn't performing differently from what I've got, been using for a long time, and also been advocating all-along .... and which is presumably/hopefully what everyone else here's using also. It "IS" the "BEST" panel option for these simulations and the only one we support Perfectly understandable .... and such as you've been experiencing (horn activation) might not occur using another panel/other panels .... especially if there's no horn relationship/tie-up between power, flaps, elevator settings (etc) and the horn. Not all panels feature this sort of tie-up. YEAH .... although it's not like rudder peddles (as most hard core enthusiasts probably prefer for reasons of control input authenticity) it's the next best, if not most commonly used, other option. Using it all one's essentially doing is trading what feet input for wrist/hand movement in order to aid the same sort of control. I find joystick twist results in more subtle ground steering influence (make sure the YD is "OFF" though or you might find actual ground steering/turning arc (during taxiing) is adversely restricted. Nothing like flexing one's wrists .... using a joystick/controller device Does wonders for the dexterity of one's paws Again .... just glad the solution's been "that simple" .... in your particular case. I must admit beginning to get a little worried .... just in case I'd possibly missed something between what I have/use and what I've been recommending here all-along. Mark C AKL/NZ
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Post by biggiraffe on Jan 28, 2024 23:28:28 GMT
Hi again!
I've thought about getting rudder pedals, and even a control wheel in place of the joystick... but haven't stepped out to do it, yet. I'm finding the joystick twist is nice because the steering centers when I release it, and I don't have to find the "neutral" key. Oh, I hadn't thought about the yaw damper fighting the joystick during taxi so will keep that in mind - Thanks!
Even with this random nuisance horn, the 737 has been a joy to fly... And now I won't even have the horn thing anymore since you helped me find the problem.
Best regards, Kurt
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