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Post by Harerton Dourado - HJG on Jun 27, 2006 0:17:55 GMT
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Post by emarkay on Jun 28, 2006 21:35:05 GMT
I could ask for the information from them, as I am a registered Ebay user - be more specific, what would the information (v-speed tables) be called in the index, and how would I describe them to the seller - presume they have no pilot education - amd maybe I can get a photocopy from them. It's at $51 now, and with 4 days to go, it's going to get more expensive for sure!
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Post by emarkay on Jun 28, 2006 22:00:27 GMT
The crew calculated the aircraft total weight at the beginning of the takeoff to be 311,725 pounds. The takeoff reference speeds (V speeds)^ 21 for an aircraft of this weight with a temperature of 71°F. (21OC. ) would be: V1 - 150 knots VR - 160 knots Vz - 170 knots These speeds were obtained from the aircraft's operating manual and were placed on the takeoff data card by the flight engineer. Source: www.airdisaster.com/reports/ntsb/AAR73-07.pdfHow's this? BOEING 707-320B REFERENCE INFORMATION Total Flight Simulator aircraft weight with full fuel 316,000 lbs. NOTE: To adjust fuel load, on the Aircraft menu, click Fuel. Vmo - Maximum Operating Speed (airspeed) 370 KIAS Mmo - Maximum Operating Speed (Mach) .90 Mach Turbulent Air Penetration Speed 280 KIAS/.73 Mach Vlo - Maximum Gear Operating Speed 270 KIAS Vle - Maximum Landing Gear Extension Speed 320 KIAS/.83 Mach Maximum Flap (Placard) Speeds Flaps 5 230 KIAS 14 223 25 215 40 200 50 185 V1 - Takeoff Decision Speed (dry runway, flaps 14) Standard temperature, sea level pressure altitude 154 KIAS (315,000 lbs.) 145 KIAS (290,000 lbs.) 136 KIAS (265,000 lbs.) Standard temperature, 5,000' pressure altitude 151 KIAS (290,000 lbs.) 143 KIAS (265,000 lbs.) Vr - Rotation Speed (dry runway, flaps 14) Standard temperature, sea level pressure altitude 160 KIAS (315,000 lbs.) 152 KIAS (290,000 lbs.) 143 KIAS (265,000 lbs.) Standard temperature, 5,000' pressure altitude 158 KIAS (290,000 lbs.) 147 KIAS (265,000 lbs.) V2 - Takeoff Safety Speed (dry runway, flaps 14) 177 KIAS (315,000 lbs.) 171 KIAS (290,000 lbs.) 163 KIAS (265,000 lbs.) Vref - Landing Approach Speed (flaps 50, gear down) 158 KIAS (290,000 lbs.) 151 KIAS (265,000 lbs.) 147 KIAS (250,000 lbs.) 142 KIAS (235,000 lbs.) www.avsim.ru/zip.phtml?id=3119&vfile=Aircraft/B707_420/boeing707-420_ref.txt |
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Post by Harerton Dourado - HJG on Jun 29, 2006 0:32:33 GMT
I try to get as many info as I can get on the 707. I currently have data for several versions but I still want the original 707-100, 707-400 and 720 numbers. I already have figures of the -100B, 720B, 300, 300B and 300C. In one year I bought 2 manuals on ebay!
I presume -400 numbers are similar to the turbojet -300 as they were basically the same acft in terms of weight, equipments, wings, etc.
And maybe the original -100 and 720 are quite close to the B versions.
But if we could get the original manual would be great!
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Post by George Carty - HJG on Jun 29, 2006 7:24:49 GMT
Those were the same assumptions I made when doing my kneeboard HTML files. One caveat though is that I ignored the turbojet -320 numbers given and assumed that the pre-Advanced* -320B numbers were more or less right for -320 and -420 (on the given -320 data the flap detents didn't look right - I'm sure the detents are 0-17-25-40-50 not 0-10-20-30-40-50).
*The Advanced 707-320B (which would be all the HJG 707-320Bs) added three-section leading-edge flaps to the original, and deleted the ventral fin.
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Post by Harerton Dourado - HJG on Jun 29, 2006 13:52:30 GMT
Well the info on the FAA data sheet don't mention haw many flap detents theere was but gives speed limits for 10, 20, 30 and 50. I'm sure it doesn't talk about 40 becaus it probably has the same limits as 50.
The PanAm manual and the info provided by Matt Zagoren say it was 0-10-20-30-40-50 for the 320.
Anyway, as there was so many different panel layouts, it may be possible that some people had their -320 flaps reconfigured to the -320B or -320B ADV/C standard.
Is there any -320 pilot here on the forum to clarify this for us?
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Post by emarkay on Jun 29, 2006 13:55:29 GMT
Maybe Google a Pan Am or TWA (or similar) "Vetran Pilot's Forum or something like that!
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